I've got a webpage up and accessible. I know the HTML server is pretty basic.
Is anyone using the server to hyperlink to a PDF file? If so, how are
you doing it.
Is anyone using the server to hyperlink to a PDF file? If so, how are
you doing it.
I have also tried to hyperlink to a Microsoft Word document saved as a html file with no success either.
Just curious if there are workarounds, etc.
Is anyone using the server to hyperlink to a PDF file? If so, how ar you doing it.
I have also tried to hyperlink to a Microsoft Word document saved as
Seems fine here (Word .DOC files, PDF files, etc.) see: http://cmech.dynip.com:8080
(View html source for hyperlink or I can send the index.html file to you)
If yours is fine, how are you accessing and what OS/Browser are you
using? Make sure you are not clicking on the html file from your a
drive path but rather having it served up by Mystic. When I browse
via the folders and click on my html files, Windows pulls it up fine.
If yours is fine, how are you accessing and what OS/Browser are you using? Make sure you are not clicking on the html file from your ahttp://cmech.dynip.com:8080 from the browser address field.
Cmech,<SNIP>
I pulled your webpage up with Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer both under Windows 10 64 bit. I then clicked on a PDF as well as a JPG file without success on two different Windows computers.
Again, to the author, I am aware this is a "Simple" html server. Just trying to identify what the limitations are.
I've got a webpage up and accessible. I know the HTML server is pretty basic.
Is anyone using the server to hyperlink to a PDF file? If so, how are
you doing it.
Cmech,
I pulled your webpage up with Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer both under Windows 10 64 bit. I then clicked on a PDF as well as a JPG file without success on two different Windows computers.
Basically, I am getting a "Can't reach this page" error from your
website. When I click on some of the links on my webpage (http://9640news.ddns.net:8080/), I get the display of the html file rather than the output from the html file.
Again, to the author, I am aware this is a "Simple" html server. Just trying to identify what the limitations are.
Beery
Someone else checked my webserver and it seems the html files I created are not http/1.0 compliant.
I suspect that it much higher that 1.0 code. I don't think 'class'
exists in HTML 1.0 which is the start of the issue here. The page at http://9640news.ddns.net:8080/ notes it as DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional,
way above what the server should do.
I think you folks are conflating HTTP (the communication protocol) and HTML (the markup language). Unless you're running dynamic scripts on the server, it doesn't really care about the contents of the html files. It just serves up the files the client asks for, and it's the client that parses and renders them.
Well, I think something else is going on.
I've got one of the simplest html files with no class or css statements, and when I click on the link for the PDF, it would not pull it up correctly.
I've got one of the simplest html files with no class or css
statements, and when I click on the link for the PDF, it would not
pull it up correctly.
One can test at 9640news.ddns.net:8080/index1.html
If anyone is able to pull up the PDF in a browser, or if they can not, please let me know.
Well, I think something else is going on.
I've got one of the simplest html files with no class or css statements, and when I click on the link for the PDF, it would not pull it up correctly.
There is no mime-type defined for .pdf by default in Mystic's web
server, but I will get that added today if I can. This could probably cause some issues with some browsers.
There is no mime-type defined for .pdf by default in Mystic's web
server, but I will get that added today if I can. This could probably cause some issues with some browsers.
I pulled your webpage up with Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer both under Windows 10 64 bit. I then clicked on a PDF as well as a JPG file without success on two different Windows computers.
I'll try to get it added into today's pre-alpha build.
I was able to download and/or view PDF,TXT files fine using Firefox for Linux on the URL that was specified.
Cmech,
I pulled your webpage up with Microsoft Edge and Internet Explorer
both under Windows 10 64 bit. I then clicked on a PDF as well as a
JPG file without success on two different Windows computers.
Basically, I am getting a "Can't reach this page" error from your
website. When I click on some of the links on my webpage (http://9640news.ddns.net:8080/), I get the display of the html file
rather than the output from the html file.
If yours is fine, how are you accessing and what OS/Browser are you
using? Make sure you are not clicking on the html file from your a
drive path but rather having it served up by Mystic. When I browse
via the folders and click on my html files, Windows pulls it up fine.
Again, to the author, I am aware this is a "Simple" html server.
Just trying to identify what the limitations are.
When I browse
via the folders and click on my html files, Windows pulls it up fine.
I would only ever put up ZIP files (or other compression methods),
then it will save the data as it comes in, but I could even see
timeouts with that.
Get yourself a direct fiber optic connection to the internet with a greater UP speed than most people's Down speed have and you'll be
fine.
:)
If you were referring to Beery's system, then nvm. {chuckle}
I'll try to get it added into today's pre-alpha build.
will there be some build in ssi that will integrate with the bbs or will that come later? (one liners) (whos one) file base and so forth?
If you were referring to Beery's system, then nvm. {chuckle}
`-------- WildCat! BBS 24/7 +1-337-984-4794 any BAUD 8,N,1^^^^^^^^
That and no one has ever really come along with the desire and skillset
to assist with the web UI. I really haven't done much with the web side since way back when Grymmjack left the Mystic scene.
`-------- WildCat! BBS 24/7 +1-337-984-4794 any BAUD 8,N,1It was impressive till I saw this. :P LOL
There is no mime-type defined for .pdf by default in Mystic's web
server, but I will get that added today if I can. This could probably cause some issues with some browsers.
I'll try to get it added into today's pre-alpha build.
will there be some build in ssi that will integrate with the bbs
that come later? (one liners) (whos one) file base and so forth?
At some point I'd like to do something along those lines, but my
focus has always been about providing a rich BBS system, not a web interface.
That and no one has ever really come along with the desire and skills to assist with the web UI. I really haven't done much with the web s since way back when Grymmjack left the Mystic scene.
grymm is back in a way. drew a few screens for my voodoo island mpl
game. ;)
i wonder if i have his old mystic site some where. the darkblue one hmm
Magicka is doing it, which is why I keep coming to Tiny's BBS to post here. Because I'm not actually logging into his BBS with a client, It's just another browser window. Though Magicka's web interface still feels
I look at it as a means of continuing to keep FTN networks alive even if the people using it have no idea what a BBS even is or what's going on behind the scenes to make it happen.
No kidding thats awesome! Glad to hear he's still kicking!
there was also a website mysticsupport.com i found a test copy of. dont know how i got this lol
GeekDoctor wrote to g00r00 <=-
I look at it as a means of continuing to keep FTN networks alive even
if the people using it have no idea what a BBS even is or what's going
on behind the scenes to make it happen.
I'd welcome a proper web interface.
there was also a website mysticsupport.com i found a test copy of. do know how i got this lolThat was a website that "Liquid" ran back when mysticbbs.com was lost.
*snip*
Its not like FidoNet offers engaging discussion on any
particular topic these days. :P
*snip*
Mystic exists to provide a classic terminal-based BBS experience based on nostalgia...
If Mystic provides a coherent web-based interface then eventually you'll just have a bunch of people typing on a website that looks like any
other web forum, only it just happens to be powered by Mystic. It would be a diversion from the entire reason Mystic exists.
I look at it as a means of continuing to keep FTN networks alive even the people using it have no idea what a BBS even is or what's going o behind the scenes to make it happen.
I don't think there has been any evidence that this actually happens. I think an influx of users to the BBS scene because of a web-based
interface amounts to wishful thinking (web-based interfaces to BBSes
isn't a new thing).
They're not going to want to use a telnet client to read their messages, because they have the website already, they probably don't know what a telnet client is, and its a much more archaic and inconvenient way to do it anyway.
So... I said all of that, but I am not totally against it. It IS something I occasionally work on (the web server is proof of that) but I hope this explains why I don't consider it a large priority.
As long as we continue this as "nostalgic" we'll all just be old Sysops calling each other's boards and never ever be the place to be again for social interaction with like-minded people.
Sure, the internet connectivity isn't a new thing, but in the same, I've also never seen it done right. I've seen it done half way, but never
seen it done in the fashion that is completely configurable in its entirety to the point that would attract that new generation.
GeekDoctor wrote to g00r00 <=-
It didn't use to be that way. I've always felt it lost it's appeal to
the masses because the masses didn't have access to it by conventional means. Well.... That and a lack of advertising in the much larger
space we have to work within these days.
Gone are the days of 400+ users on a single board too. From my perspective, another 2-3 decades from now there won't even be nostalgia
if there isn't something that directly connects the old to the new.
All of us former Sysops will be dead and the masses couldn't care less.
Do we continue on for Nostalgia sake or do we merge the two and make
the best of it? Do we try to peak the interest of the next generation
or leave it to all us old guys who won't be around 3+ decades from now?
Thinking about the purpose for doing such things that would have 100+ boards internet connected all having the same thing. Do it right and
they wouldn't all have the same things. Just like we didn't all have
the same things back in the day. Some things are the same, other
things are different. I read something the other day that really hit
it home for me. That was something to the effect of.... "Were you part
of the original Social Media generation" referring to all of us
original old school sysops. I never really thought of it in that light before. We were the original Social Media and the work we all put into our boards, mostly as a past time because we enjoyed it.
Sure, the internet connectivity isn't a new thing, but in the same,
I've also never seen it done right. I've seen it done half way, but
never seen it done in the fashion that is completely configurable in
its entirety to the point that would attract that new generation.
Avon wrote to GeekDoctor <=-
I don't think many sysops call others boards, unless they are offering help with setup, are in to a modding scene and like what they see when they call or are calling around to see what is not stock etc.
I observer sysops set up a BBS to engage with others via echomail, netmail, MRC and more recently IRC so they don't leave 'home' too much
to do so ;-)
They are also likely to be the #1 user of their system as the systems
are established for their interests, passions etc. than rather to offer
a service most would accept is not widely demanded by the masses in the social media era we're in right now.
Ironically the Internet seems widely credited by many commentators as a key reason for the demise of popular public support/interest in BBSing circa mid 1990's ... yet for those using BBS today it opens up a fast (packets reach their destinations in seconds not days), globally interconnected (fsxNet nodes from Brazil to across Europe, Asia and Oceania) message community for those interested in taking part.
Thus far those taking part are for the most part returning to a scene
they recall fondly with nostalgia from the 80's and 90s. But some are coming in to this scene (and fsxNet) having never been involved (or
born) back in those days.
At the heart of what we're chatting about is motivation and interest... what it takes to motivate and/or interest someone in (let's say) their teens, twenties or thirties to engage in this kind of technology.
It's certainly not a sophisticated style of tech compared to the smart phone swipe and pinch apps they are used to. It does hold a retro/fashionable appeal to some that you could argue (like clothing trends) will come around again and have wider appeal with a 2018 twist/tweak.
My reading is that this online space is far more likely to be appealing
to the masses when they desire to take back their privacy and have less data rested in cloud based systems run by giants like Google and
Facebook that apply their algorithmic oversight to said data for commercial gains.
That's why the appeal for me is any further work done collectively and collaboratively by BBS software developers that enable more
contemporary standards of encryption of BBS data being store on a given system or transmitted securely via the Internet between nodes in a
larger message/files network with the BBS offering the user interface
to said content and removed from the spiders and bots that currently
index every scrap of publicly discoverable HTML on the planet.
Whoops, this looks more like a rant now, I'll go have a coffee :)
| Sysop: | sneaky |
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