Along with some other regular posters to this ng I am astounded and >disappointed by the disintegration of the Labour party since 2008.
Lest anyone be in doubt I consider that the National party leadership
in the general elections and polls since the general election of 2008 >represents the best-option choice rather than the superior-option
choice.
The fact is that over this period the Greens have fluctuated at
between 10-15% of party support with no electorate MPs while Winston
First have fluctuated close to the 5% threshold of party support and
ACT have maintained one electorate MP. So the difference is that
electorate and party support for Labour has declined and for National
it has increased.
Equally in this period many National MPs have retired but with Labour
this is not the case. How many remnants of the Bolger era remain? How
many of remnants of the Lange era remain?
--I think it is an absolute tragedy that the Labour party is in such disarray. In hindsight it is no surprise when you consider the influence of what I consider to be an external organisation, the unions. Unions have their place and I used to supposrt all staff who wanted to join one. However I believe political parties should exist independently of external influences.
Crash McBash
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
Along with some other regular posters to this ng I am astounded and >>disappointed by the disintegration of the Labour party since 2008.I think it is an absolute tragedy that the Labour party is in such disarray. In
Lest anyone be in doubt I consider that the National party leadership
in the general elections and polls since the general election of 2008 >>represents the best-option choice rather than the superior-option
choice.
The fact is that over this period the Greens have fluctuated at
between 10-15% of party support with no electorate MPs while Winston
First have fluctuated close to the 5% threshold of party support and
ACT have maintained one electorate MP. So the difference is that >>electorate and party support for Labour has declined and for National
it has increased.
Equally in this period many National MPs have retired but with Labour
this is not the case. How many remnants of the Bolger era remain? How
many of remnants of the Lange era remain?
--
Crash McBash
hindsight it is no surprise when you consider the influence of what I consider >to be an external organisation, the unions. Unions have their place and I used >to supposrt all staff who wanted to join one. However I believe political >parties should exist independently of external influences.
Without a credible opposition we are missing balance in the House. I was >concerned when, during the last election, it looked like National might have >been able to govern alone. Some of the strong Labour supporters cannot >understand people like me who do not have strong political beliefs, >affiliations have little or no influence on how I vote. I do not believe the >National government is as good as we should have, the sad fact is that there is
currently no viable alternative. If there was a snap election now and Labour >somehow won (I don't believe they would) the country would be in serious >trouble. I don't know how but we need an option - perhaps you should start a >party Crash!
Tony
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