On Thu, 21 Dec 2017 14:25:36 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:

Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 20 Dec 2017 00:11:33 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:

Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:55:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>dot nz> wrote:

Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/99967004/australia-backs-down-on-plans-to-charge-kiwi-students-higher-fees

This is a good decision for both Australia and New Zealand - helped by >>>>>>>Ardern's clear articulation of issues and knowing how to enable a >>>>>>>win-win solution.

The only downside is that she has damaged the relationship between the >>>>>>two
countries - very smart. Very diplomatic!
Tony

Do you have any evidence of any damage?

Of course I do, the repeated offer to take people from the Manus Regional >>>>Processing Centre is more than sufficient.

Try looking at the reference I gave - there just might be a clue to
even you in >"australia-backs-down-on-plans-to-charge-kiwi-students-higher-fees"

Clearly the success of the new government sticks in your craw - your
lame attempt to adopt the standard nat-bot "look over there" approach
when faced with evidence of National party deficiencies is all too
obvious.

The Australian government believe

that our government's attempt to interfere is a bad thing - regardless of >>>>whether that is correct or not it has damaged the relationship!

So you cannot show that discussions re student fees have caused any >>>problems with the Australia / NZ relationship - why not just admit you >>>lied?

You stupid man, I never said it did.

No, but you implied that it had

- and your childish attempt to abuse
another poster does not help your total lack of relevancy, or the
reality that you did not refer to any other issue when makes your
incorrect claim

The damage was caused by her repeated
interference in Australian policy on "refugees".
Do try to keep up.

It does actually pay to read all of a post, Tony - or do you not know
how to scroll down? I have addressed your pathetic attempt to change
the subject - see below:

As far as the offer to assist Australia with Manus Island people, the >>>current government merely confrmed when asked that the offer made by
Bill English was still available - did that offer damage the
relationship between Australia and New Zealand? Again domestic issues >>>will have been more important to Turnbull than the amicable
relationship with New Zealand, although the Liberals will have been >>>disappointed that the National party lost government - Labour is doing >>>fairly well in Australia at present - and indeed at the last lelection >>>they got more votes than the Liberals . . .

If anything Turnbull may be
grateful for the support given in making a decision which is >>>>>beneficial to his party.

Nonsense!
Tony

Again you attempt to arguew your case with pathetic abuse rather than
giving any reasons - understandable since you clearly did not have any >evidence to refute my post. You are capable of better than the lame
attempts of "dirty tricks", personal abuse, deliberate
misunderstanding and obfuscation of the Pooh-troll Tony. I appreciate
that you share his dismay at the now even more evident failure of
National; but the decision by the Australian government to draw back
from a decision that was not in the interests of either Australia or
New Zealand is worthy of celebration, as is the part in that reversal
played by our current prime minister.

Tony