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    From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 17:10:57
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/another-day-another-parliamentary-cock-labour/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    Nice to see Trev keeping up the good work. Pity his own party doesn't like being put in their place. so much for cohesion in our clayton's government :)

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to bowes...@gmail.com on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 17:32:09
    On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:10:59 UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/another-day-another-parliamentary-cock-labour/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    Nice to see Trev keeping up the good work. Pity his own party doesn't like
    being put in their place. so much for cohesion in our clayton's government :)

    OMG this current mob can't complete their own bills, but are currently presenting National's bills, and stuffing that up, so that National have to help them get it over the line.

    Yet more humiliating incompetence from the new government.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to JohnO on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 20:02:24
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:10:59 UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote:
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/another-day-another-parliamentary-cock-labour/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    Nice to see Trev keeping up the good work. Pity his own party doesn't like >>being put in their place. so much for cohesion in our clayton's government :)

    OMG this current mob can't complete their own bills, but are currently >presenting National's bills, and stuffing that up, so that National have to >help them get it over the line.

    Yet more humiliating incompetence from the new government.
    I find this whole issue very disappointing, I can accept that a new government needs to find its feet and learn its very different trade (compared to being in opposition) but I cannot understand why a very experienced Deputy PM and some of the other experienced MPs are either not being asked for their advice or are simply being ignored.
    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 16:34:28
    On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:02:24 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:10:59 UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/another-day-another-parliamentary-cock-labour/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    Nice to see Trev keeping up the good work. Pity his own party doesn't like >>>being put in their place. so much for cohesion in our clayton's government :)

    OMG this current mob can't complete their own bills, but are currently >>presenting National's bills, and stuffing that up, so that National have to >>help them get it over the line.

    Yet more humiliating incompetence from the new government.
    I find this whole issue very disappointing, I can accept that a new government >needs to find its feet and learn its very different trade (compared to being in
    opposition) but I cannot understand why a very experienced Deputy PM and some >of the other experienced MPs are either not being asked for their advice or are
    simply being ignored.
    Tony

    Do you have any evidence that Winston is not consulted, or that his
    advice is being ignored? Winston Peters was not the Minister
    introducing a bill - a mistake was made. Interesting is that the same
    thing happened some years ago with another new Minister - Gerry
    Brownlee. He asked leave to speak in identical circumstances and
    Labour allowed him to speak. This time, when leave was asked for, it
    was Gerry Brownlee that refused. The contrasty is between a
    constuctive opposition then, and a bitter and uncooperative opposition
    now.

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 04:28:20
    On 2017-12-13, bowesjohn02@gmail.com <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/another-day-another-parliamentary-cock-labour/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    Nice to see Trev keeping up the good work. Pity his own party doesn't like
    being put in their place. so much for cohesion in our clayton's government :)


    This happens from time to time. The Speaker tells people to pull their head
    in as they are getting out of order. That is his job, and she/he has to
    control the Members otherwise there would be out and out slinging match in
    the house. Both physical and verbal.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 00:48:02
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:02:24 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:10:59 UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>>https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/another-day-another-parliamentary-cock-labour/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    Nice to see Trev keeping up the good work. Pity his own party doesn't like >>>>being put in their place. so much for cohesion in our clayton's government >>>>:)

    OMG this current mob can't complete their own bills, but are currently >>>presenting National's bills, and stuffing that up, so that National have to >>>help them get it over the line.

    Yet more humiliating incompetence from the new government.
    I find this whole issue very disappointing, I can accept that a new >>government
    needs to find its feet and learn its very different trade (compared to being >>in
    opposition) but I cannot understand why a very experienced Deputy PM and some >>of the other experienced MPs are either not being asked for their advice or >>are
    simply being ignored.
    Tony

    Do you have any evidence that Winston is not consulted, or that his
    advice is being ignored? Winston Peters was not the Minister
    introducing a bill - a mistake was made. Interesting is that the same
    thing happened some years ago with another new Minister - Gerry
    Brownlee. He asked leave to speak in identical circumstances and
    Labour allowed him to speak. This time, when leave was asked for, it
    was Gerry Brownlee that refused. The contrasty is between a
    constuctive opposition then, and a bitter and uncooperative opposition
    now.
    Interesting? Of course governments make mistakes but that is absolutely not the point.
    These people are responsible for leading this country and they are making too many mistakes despite the experience available to them! That is the point! There has not been a more bitter opposition than the last 9 years of incompetent, childish and leaderless opposition. They need to measure up and learn the ropes! That is the point!
    Tony

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  • From bowesjohn02@gmail.com@3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, December 13, 2017 00:03:21
    On Wednesday, December 13, 2017 at 4:34:27 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:02:24 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, 13 December 2017 14:10:59 UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/another-day-another-parliamentary-cock-labour/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    Nice to see Trev keeping up the good work. Pity his own party doesn't
    like
    being put in their place. so much for cohesion in our clayton's government
    :)

    OMG this current mob can't complete their own bills, but are currently >>presenting National's bills, and stuffing that up, so that National have to

    help them get it over the line.

    Yet more humiliating incompetence from the new government.
    I find this whole issue very disappointing, I can accept that a new
    government
    needs to find its feet and learn its very different trade (compared to being
    in
    opposition) but I cannot understand why a very experienced Deputy PM and
    some
    of the other experienced MPs are either not being asked for their advice or
    are
    simply being ignored.
    Tony

    Do you have any evidence that Winston is not consulted, or that his
    advice is being ignored? Winston Peters was not the Minister
    introducing a bill - a mistake was made. Interesting is that the same
    thing happened some years ago with another new Minister - Gerry
    Brownlee. He asked leave to speak in identical circumstances and
    Labour allowed him to speak. This time, when leave was asked for, it
    was Gerry Brownlee that refused. The contrasty is between a
    constuctive opposition then, and a bitter and uncooperative opposition
    now.

    Yet another comprehension failure from the comprehensionless commie Rich. It wasn't the cock up from the minister I was pointing out. It was the way Mallard
    (who's doing a bloody good job as speaker) was harassed by his own party members I was pointing
    out! So typical of the loopy left like you Rich.

    If the Clayton government lasts till April it'll be a bloody miracle!

    Pooh

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to bowesjohn02@gmail.com on Thursday, December 14, 2017 08:31:06
    On 12/13/2017 2:10 PM, bowesjohn02@gmail.com wrote:
    https://www.whaleoil.co.nz/2017/12/another-day-another-parliamentary-cock-labour/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

    Nice to see Trev keeping up the good work. Pity his own party doesn't like
    being put in their place. so much for cohesion in our clayton's government :)


    I had hopes that the fox would know how to treat the chooks in the
    henhouse but no.
    He appears to deflect the more intense questioning of the government.

    And for that he's been pulled up by the last Speaker and senior Nat members

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