I'm agreeing with Sue Moroney - the apocalypse is at hand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/77368899/just-one-death-caused-by-driver-in-lower-drinkdriving-limit-since-law-introduced

Damnit she's right. The lowered limit is a joke and consistent with a traffic police mindset of prioritising ticketing over road safety.

How many times do we see a booze bus setup with a dozen cops and cars at midday. It's most unlikely to catch a drink driver. However you can see them all going over each car stopped checking WOF, rego and RUC tickets with a magnifying glass. A massive
drain on resources for zero safety benefit.

And the marginal alcohol limit, as shown to be unrelated to crashes, is just the icing on the cake for these ticket monkeys.

Same goes for mobile speed cameras. Always setup around a country passing lane.
Revenue over safety once again.

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On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 09:43:23 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 3/1/2016 8:45 AM, JohnO wrote:

I'm agreeing with Sue Moroney - the apocalypse is at hand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/77368899/just-one-death-caused-by-driver-in-lower-drinkdriving-limit-since-law-introduced

Damnit she's right. The lowered limit is a joke and consistent with a traffic police mindset of prioritising ticketing over road safety.

How many times do we see a booze bus setup with a dozen cops and cars at midday. It's most unlikely to catch a drink driver. However you can see them all going over each car stopped checking WOF, rego and RUC tickets with a magnifying glass. A massive

drain on resources for zero safety benefit.

And the marginal alcohol limit, as shown to be unrelated to crashes, is just

the icing on the cake for these ticket monkeys.

Same goes for mobile speed cameras. Always setup around a country passing lane. Revenue over safety once again.

And every driver is spending more time watching the speedo than the road. >Strange though how the police can race around at speeds well over the
speed limit to catch those evil motorists who dare to be 5km over the
posted limit.

That sounds very surprising, george - do you have a cite for that
story?

And the apologists we get on the news after a public holiday, low road
toll, it's all their doing, high road toll, we're to blame

I haven't heard that one either - cite?

I'm not saying you are wrong, its just that they don't fit with my
memories of discussion and news reports over road chases or road toll.

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On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:45:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm agreeing with Sue Moroney - the apocalypse is at hand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/77368899/just-one-death-caused-by-driver-in-lower-drinkdriving-limit-since-law-introduced

Damnit she's right. The lowered limit is a joke and consistent with a traffic police mindset of prioritising ticketing over road safety.

How many times do we see a booze bus setup with a dozen cops and cars at midday. It's most unlikely to catch a drink driver. However you can see them all going over each car stopped checking WOF, rego and RUC tickets with a magnifying glass. A massive

drain on resources for zero safety benefit.

And the marginal alcohol limit, as shown to be unrelated to crashes, is just the icing on the cake for these ticket monkeys.

Same goes for mobile speed cameras. Always setup around a country passing lane. Revenue over safety once again.

Although from that article:
"A police headquarters spokeswoman there were "promising signs" the
law change might be influencing drivers' behaviour because, since
October 2015, almost 2500 fewer drivers had been caught over the old
limit."

I suspect there has been a change in behaviour regarding drinking and
driving - also affected by people less able to afford the cost of
going out.

One death in a year is not too far out of line with a forecast 3
deaths.

Of more concernmay be:
"But Moroney said figures provided to her by Associate Transport
Minister Craig Foss showed the Government was diverting police
resources to target good drivers for fine revenue."

None of the money from fines and infringments goes to the police
budget, but there may be less formal links. It would be interesting to
see the figures Moroney was provided with.

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On 3/1/2016 8:45 AM, JohnO wrote:

I'm agreeing with Sue Moroney - the apocalypse is at hand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/77368899/just-one-death-caused-by-driver-in-lower-drinkdriving-limit-since-law-introduced

Damnit she's right. The lowered limit is a joke and consistent with a traffic

police mindset of prioritising ticketing over road safety.

How many times do we see a booze bus setup with a dozen cops and cars at

midday. It's most unlikely to catch a drink driver. However you can see them all going over each car stopped checking WOF, rego and RUC tickets with a magnifying glass. A massive
drain on resources for zero safety benefit.

And the marginal alcohol limit, as shown to be unrelated to crashes, is just

the icing on the cake for these ticket monkeys.

Same goes for mobile speed cameras. Always setup around a country passing

lane. Revenue over safety once again.


And every driver is spending more time watching the speedo than the road. Strange though how the police can race around at speeds well over the
speed limit to catch those evil motorists who dare to be 5km over the
posted limit.
And the apologists we get on the news after a public holiday, low road
toll, it's all their doing, high road toll, we're to blame

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On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:45:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm agreeing with Sue Moroney - the apocalypse is at hand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/77368899/just-one-death-caused-by-driver-in-lower-drinkdriving-limit-since-law-introduced

Damnit she's right. The lowered limit is a joke and consistent with a traffic police mindset of prioritising ticketing over road safety.

How many times do we see a booze bus setup with a dozen cops and cars at midday. It's most unlikely to catch a drink driver. However you can see them all going over each car stopped checking WOF, rego and RUC tickets with a magnifying glass. A massive

drain on resources for zero safety benefit.

And the marginal alcohol limit, as shown to be unrelated to crashes, is just the icing on the cake for these ticket monkeys.

Same goes for mobile speed cameras. Always setup around a country passing lane. Revenue over safety once again.

For another angle see DPFs take on Labour now (Moroney) and back then:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/labour_flip_flopping_again.html


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"Crash" <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote in message news:dqgadbtn902g8if185rsug0dt714l7gmvt@4ax.com...

On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:45:03 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm agreeing with Sue Moroney - the apocalypse is at hand.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/77368899/just-one-death-caused-by-driver-in-lower-drinkdriving-limit-since-law-introduced

Damnit she's right. The lowered limit is a joke and consistent with a >>traffic police mindset of prioritising ticketing over road safety.

How many times do we see a booze bus setup with a dozen cops and cars at >>midday. It's most unlikely to catch a drink driver. However you can see >>them all going over each car stopped checking WOF, rego and RUC tickets >>with a magnifying glass. A massive drain on resources for zero safety >>benefit.

And the marginal alcohol limit, as shown to be unrelated to crashes, is >>just the icing on the cake for these ticket monkeys.

Same goes for mobile speed cameras. Always setup around a country passing >>lane. Revenue over safety once again.

For another angle see DPFs take on Labour now (Moroney) and back then:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/labour_flip_flopping_again.html

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Just like Rich. Now I wonder which is following who. Is it Rich following
the party line or the party immitating Rich?:)

Pooh

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