Apparently Labour think they know more about bringing up children than parentsdo. It's not good enough for 26 weeks to be taken as 13 weeks for both parents.
Really, Labour? Who the fuck are you to say?
Every day this government is making themselves look like muppets.
It's time for a change, Dickbot. Already!
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Apparently Labour think they know more about bringing up children than parents do. It's not good enough for 26 weeks to be taken as 13 weeks for both parents. Oh no. According to Labour only one parent at a time is best for baby. >>
Really, Labour? Who the fuck are you to say?
Every day this government is making themselves look like muppets.
It's time for a change, Dickbot. Already!
It's all about Labor's ideology. If national says the sky is blue
Labor will say it's red and so on.
Apparently Labour think they know more about bringing up children thanparents do. It's not good enough for 26 weeks to be taken as 13 weeks for both parents. Oh no. According to Labour only one parent at a time is best for baby.
Really, Labour? Who the fuck are you to say?
Every day this government is making themselves look like muppets.
It's time for a change, Dickbot. Already!
No need for a cite you fool. The facts are clear that Labour don't want parents to have difficulty with their leave allowance. Labour won't let them have a choice as they think they know better.
Change is not in itself a virtue. These idiots need to be held to account.
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 01:01:41 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>parents to have difficulty with their leave allowance. Labour won't let them have a choice as they think they know better.
wrote:
No need for a cite you fool. The facts are clear that Labour don't want
Indeed there is no need for a cite for your foolish and misguided
opinions or for your consistent and persistent lying.
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 01:03:05 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
Change is not in itself a virtue. These idiots need to be held to account.
Of course they do, but lies from the likes of your posts will not help
do that JohnO.
On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:14:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:to swallow their pride and admit that National's idea is a good one:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 01:03:05 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Change is not in itself a virtue. These idiots need to be held to account.
Of course they do, but lies from the likes of your posts will not help
do that JohnO.
Even Labour current and ex MPs are not happy with Labour's stubborn refusal
"But his colleague, Willow-Jean Prime said she knows how difficult being anew mother can be and would be talking to Minister for Workplace Relations Iain
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/confusion-in-labour-as-national-pushes-for-shared-parental-leave.htmlattachment and bonding opportunity would be a great place to go to”.
and
"Ms Moroney, who retired at the 2017 election, said “getting everyone that
She said men are as capable of looking after children as women are, and shewants families to have the flexibility to allow both parents to care for their child or children."
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/author-of-paid-parental-leave-bill-wants-additional-partner-leave.htmlaccessing parental leave as they see fit.
But... no. Labour knows better than parents and will prevent them from
On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 10:33:55 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:account.
On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:14:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 01:03:05 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Change is not in itself a virtue. These idiots need to be held to
to swallow their pride and admit that National's idea is a good one:Of course they do, but lies from the likes of your posts will not help
do that JohnO.
Even Labour current and ex MPs are not happy with Labour's stubborn refusal
new mother can be and would be talking to Minister for Workplace Relations Iain"But his colleague, Willow-Jean Prime said she knows how difficult being a
that attachment and bonding opportunity would be a great place to go to”.http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/confusion-in-labour-as-national-pushes-for-shared-parental-leave.html
and
"Ms Moroney, who retired at the 2017 election, said “getting everyone
wants families to have the flexibility to allow both parents to care for their child or children."She said men are as capable of looking after children as women are, and she
accessing parental leave as they see fit.http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/author-of-paid-parental-leave-bill-wants-additional-partner-leave.html
But... no. Labour knows better than parents and will prevent them from
This is the party Rich claims isn't dictatorial and caring? Guess they werejust more of the typical lies the trolling Trotsky twit posts daily :)
Pooh
On Thursday, 16 November 2017 14:43:32 UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote:account.
On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 10:33:55 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:14:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 01:03:05 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Change is not in itself a virtue. These idiots need to be held to
refusal to swallow their pride and admit that National's idea is a good one:Of course they do, but lies from the likes of your posts will not help do that JohnO.
Even Labour current and ex MPs are not happy with Labour's stubborn
a new mother can be and would be talking to Minister for Workplace Relations Iain Lees-Galloway about adopting National's amendment.""But his colleague, Willow-Jean Prime said she knows how difficult being
that attachment and bonding opportunity would be a great place to go to”.http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/confusion-in-labour-as-national-pushes-for-shared-parental-leave.html
and
"Ms Moroney, who retired at the 2017 election, said “getting everyone
she wants families to have the flexibility to allow both parents to care for their child or children."She said men are as capable of looking after children as women are, and
accessing parental leave as they see fit.http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/author-of-paid-parental-leave-bill-wants-additional-partner-leave.html
But... no. Labour knows better than parents and will prevent them from
just more of the typical lies the trolling Trotsky twit posts daily :)This is the party Rich claims isn't dictatorial and caring? Guess they were
to "claridy", "prioridy", "poverdy"... ugh!Pooh
Trying to listen to the PM answering questions... it is so grating listening
Ah. Now I understand why I can't get an answer from Labour about what theirdescription of poverty is! Next time I ask I'll ask about poverdy:)
On Thursday, 16 November 2017 14:43:32 UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote:new mother can be and would be talking to Minister for Workplace Relations Iain
On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 10:33:55 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:14:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 01:03:05 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
Change is not in itself a virtue. These idiots need to be held to account.
Of course they do, but lies from the likes of your posts will not help >> > > do that JohnO.
Even Labour current and ex MPs are not happy with Labour's stubborn refusal to swallow their pride and admit that National's idea is a good one:
"But his colleague, Willow-Jean Prime said she knows how difficult being a
attachment and bonding opportunity would be a great place to go to.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/confusion-in-labour-as-national-pushes-for-shared-parental-leave.html
and
"Ms Moroney, who retired at the 2017 election, said getting everyone that
She said men are as capable of looking after children as women are, and she wants families to have the flexibility to allow both parents to care for their child or children."
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/author-of-paid-parental-leave-bill-wants-additional-partner-leave.html
But... no. Labour knows better than parents and will prevent them from accessing parental leave as they see fit.
This is the party Rich claims isn't dictatorial and caring? Guess they were just more of the typical lies the trolling Trotsky twit posts daily :)
Pooh
Trying to listen to the PM answering questions... it is so grating listening to "claridy", "prioridy", "poverdy"... ugh!
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:36:10 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>account.
wrote:
On Thursday, 16 November 2017 14:43:32 UTC+13, bowes...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, November 16, 2017 at 10:33:55 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
On Wednesday, 15 November 2017 22:14:09 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2017 01:03:05 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >> > > wrote:
Change is not in itself a virtue. These idiots need to be held to
refusal to swallow their pride and admit that National's idea is a good one:
Of course they do, but lies from the likes of your posts will not help >> > > do that JohnO.
Even Labour current and ex MPs are not happy with Labour's stubborn
a new mother can be and would be talking to Minister for Workplace Relations Iain Lees-Galloway about adopting National's amendment."
"But his colleague, Willow-Jean Prime said she knows how difficult being
that attachment and bonding opportunity would be a great place to go to”.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/confusion-in-labour-as-national-pushes-for-shared-parental-leave.html
and
"Ms Moroney, who retired at the 2017 election, said “getting everyone
she wants families to have the flexibility to allow both parents to care for their child or children."
She said men are as capable of looking after children as women are, and
accessing parental leave as they see fit.
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/11/author-of-paid-parental-leave-bill-wants-additional-partner-leave.html
But... no. Labour knows better than parents and will prevent them from
were just more of the typical lies the trolling Trotsky twit posts daily :)
This is the party Rich claims isn't dictatorial and caring? Guess they
to "claridy", "prioridy", "poverdy"... ugh!
Pooh
Trying to listen to the PM answering questions... it is so grating listening
Its a bit of a hoot really listening to National pushing National to
pass a bill that they spent 5 years fighting against, and which, when
their "support parties" eventually realised that National was wrong
and the bill was passed earlier this year, National claimed that the
cost was so great that they exercised a dubious provision for a
private members bill of claiming that it was so expensive that it
would derail their budget, and Bill English pulled the plug.
Now, Labour are delivering on a campaign promise to put this bill
through under urgency, and what are National claiming? That it should
go further! After so many years of "ashpirational" government that saw
the hopes and dreams of so many turn to ashes under Key and English,
suddenly they have had a reversal of policies? No of course not, they
are just attacking for attackings sake - there is of course room for improvements in due course as the economy improves under Labour/NZ
First / Greens, but all National are doing is seeking to derail a bill
being passed under urgency. Its good to see that they now admit they
were wrong, but National is still a long way from being trusted.
As for nanny state - National are the party that "nanny stated"
thousands of beneficiaries, forcing them to frequent meetings,
dictating where and how they must live - why even on this group some
Nat-bots expressed concern that if beneficiaries had the money to
watch television then benfits must be too high!
https://twitter.com/BeehiveLetters/status/931061459903168512?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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