• Aussies must be laughing their tits off at NZ

    From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Monday, November 06, 2017 13:00:48
    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets politely
    ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091

    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students free tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee hikes.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's student bribe... to Australians.

    Brilliant.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to JohnO on Monday, November 06, 2017 13:04:36
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets
    politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091

    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students free
    tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee hikes.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's student
    bribe... to Australians.

    Brilliant.

    So another flip flop for Richie's glorious leader. How many's that now/ At least she'll get to do at least 100 by the end of the month. Remember how Richie used to go on about Key and his 'flip flops'?

    Pooh

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to jmschri...@gmail.com on Monday, November 06, 2017 17:58:09
    On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:28:04 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets
    politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091

    Ardern is doing what prime minsters do: confirm that NZ's offer still stands
    and is still made in good faith - the very stuff of international gesture diplomacy.

    Rubbish. If Ardern know what she was doing she would never ask a question unless she already knew the answer* and avoided the embarrassment of having the
    door closed in her face.

    * a basic rule of public negotiation.



    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students free
    tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee hikes.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's student
    bribe... to Australians.

    What's so bad about that when, via their insanely overblown mortgages, "hard
    working" Kiwis have for too long been helplessly watching a goliath of an Australian bank sucking their "hard-earned" incomes out of their pockets and into its bottomless
    coffers?

    As is their choice. There is no choice in paying for foreigners' education.


    There again, it can come as no surprise that, on October 18 last, this same
    bank, now the largest mortgage-lender in New Zealand, sweetly appointed John Key Chairman of its NZ board, this presumably in reward for his aiding and abetting ANZ's rampant
    profit-hoovering during his prime ministerial incumbency.

    I have previously asked you to back up your claim that John Key actively promoted house price rises but you ran away without answering.


    Brilliant.

    You couldn't have expressed it better!

    But no need to panic just yet. In fact, I rather suspect any tertiary
    studies offer is likely to be confined to those holding verifiable, documented
    NZ citizenship, and even then to be taken up only by those who also believe a NZ degree confers the
    level of international recognition and cachet they aspire to.

    Your suspicions count for nothing.

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  • From jmschristophers@gmail.com@3:770/3 to JohnO on Monday, November 06, 2017 17:28:02
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets
    politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091

    Ardern is doing what prime minsters do: confirm that NZ's offer still stands and is still made in good faith - the very stuff of international gesture diplomacy.


    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students free
    tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee hikes.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's student
    bribe... to Australians.

    What's so bad about that when, via their insanely overblown mortgages, "hard working" Kiwis have for too long been helplessly watching a goliath of an Australian bank sucking their "hard-earned" incomes out of their pockets and into its bottomless
    coffers?

    There again, it can come as no surprise that, on October 18 last, this same bank, now the largest mortgage-lender in New Zealand, sweetly appointed John Key Chairman of its NZ board, this presumably in reward for his aiding and abetting ANZ's rampant
    profit-hoovering during his prime ministerial incumbency.

    Brilliant.

    You couldn't have expressed it better!

    But no need to panic just yet. In fact, I rather suspect any tertiary studies
    offer is likely to be confined to those holding verifiable, documented NZ citizenship, and even then to be taken up only by those who also believe a NZ degree confers the
    level of international recognition and cachet they aspire to.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to jmschri...@gmail.com on Monday, November 06, 2017 21:16:28
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:28:04 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets
    politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091

    Ardern is doing what prime minsters do: confirm that NZ's offer still stands >>and is still made in good faith - the very stuff of international gesture >>diplomacy.

    Rubbish. If Ardern know what she was doing she would never ask a question >unless she already knew the answer* and avoided the embarrassment of having the
    door closed in her face.

    * a basic rule of public negotiation.



    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students free >> >tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee hikes.


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's
    student bribe... to Australians.

    What's so bad about that when, via their insanely overblown mortgages, "hard >>working" Kiwis have for too long been helplessly watching a goliath of an >>Australian bank sucking their "hard-earned" incomes out of their pockets and >>into its bottomless coffers?

    As is their choice. There is no choice in paying for foreigners' education.


    There again, it can come as no surprise that, on October 18 last, this same >>bank, now the largest mortgage-lender in New Zealand, sweetly appointed John >>Key Chairman of its NZ board, this presumably in reward for his aiding and >>abetting ANZ's rampant profit-hoovering during his prime ministerial incumbency.

    I have previously asked you to back up your claim that John Key actively >promoted house price rises but you ran away without answering.


    Brilliant.

    You couldn't have expressed it better!

    But no need to panic just yet. In fact, I rather suspect any tertiary >>studies offer is likely to be confined to those holding verifiable, documented
    NZ citizenship, and even then to be taken up only by those who also believe a >>NZ degree confers the level of international recognition and cachet they aspire
    to.

    Your suspicions count for nothing.
    New Zealand degrees are World Class, as is ably demonstrated by our many brilliant scientists and entrepreneurs. Newsman is spitting into the wind once more, and catching it on his chops!
    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 22:01:47
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 13:00:48 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091

    Bill English has admitted he would hve done the same, with the same
    result. Would he have been wrong?

    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students free tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee hikes.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Australi haven;t got their changes through the Senate yet - and it may
    become blo9cked thee. New Zealand doesn't need to treat Australians
    differently unless the Ausrtalians tereat our students differently.
    Its called fair negotiation, and being honest - I don;t expect you to understand JohnO.



    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's student bribe... to Australians.

    Brilliant.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 22:06:49
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 17:58:09 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:28:04 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091

    Ardern is doing what prime minsters do: confirm that NZ's offer still stands
    and is still made in good faith - the very stuff of international gesture diplomacy.

    Rubbish. If Ardern know what she was doing she would never ask a question unless she already knew the answer* and avoided the embarrassment of having the
    door closed in her face.

    * a basic rule of public negotiation.

    And as English confirmed, the likely response was known, he would also
    have made the offer with the knowledge that it was likely to be
    refused.




    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students free
    tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee hikes. >> >
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's student bribe... to Australians.

    What's so bad about that when, via their insanely overblown mortgages, "hard
    working" Kiwis have for too long been helplessly watching a goliath of an Australian bank sucking their "hard-earned" incomes out of their pockets and into its bottomless
    coffers?

    As is their choice. There is no choice in paying for foreigners' education.

    Why should New Zealand retaliate before the Australians actually make
    a decision? Basic negotiation, JOhnO - don't lock yourself into a
    position you would rather not have . . .




    There again, it can come as no surprise that, on October 18 last, this same bank, now the largest mortgage-lender in New Zealand, sweetly appointed John Key Chairman of its NZ board, this presumably in reward for his aiding and abetting ANZ's rampant
    profit-hoovering during his prime ministerial incumbency.

    I have previously asked you to back up your claim that John Key actively promoted house price rises but you ran away without answering.


    Brilliant.

    You couldn't have expressed it better!

    But no need to panic just yet. In fact, I rather suspect any tertiary studies offer is likely to be confined to those holding verifiable, documented
    NZ citizenship, and even then to be taken up only by those who also believe a NZ degree confers the
    level of international recognition and cachet they aspire to.

    Your suspicions count for nothing.


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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 22:12:23
    On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 21:16:28 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:28:04 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets >>> >politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091 >>>
    Ardern is doing what prime minsters do: confirm that NZ's offer still stands
    and is still made in good faith - the very stuff of international gesture >>>diplomacy.

    Rubbish. If Ardern know what she was doing she would never ask a question >>unless she already knew the answer* and avoided the embarrassment of having the
    door closed in her face.

    * a basic rule of public negotiation.



    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students free
    tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee hikes.


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's
    student bribe... to Australians.

    What's so bad about that when, via their insanely overblown mortgages, "hard
    working" Kiwis have for too long been helplessly watching a goliath of an >>>Australian bank sucking their "hard-earned" incomes out of their pockets and >>>into its bottomless coffers?

    As is their choice. There is no choice in paying for foreigners' education. >>

    There again, it can come as no surprise that, on October 18 last, this same >>>bank, now the largest mortgage-lender in New Zealand, sweetly appointed John >>>Key Chairman of its NZ board, this presumably in reward for his aiding and >>>abetting ANZ's rampant profit-hoovering during his prime ministerial incumbency.

    I have previously asked you to back up your claim that John Key actively >>promoted house price rises but you ran away without answering.


    Brilliant.

    You couldn't have expressed it better!

    But no need to panic just yet. In fact, I rather suspect any tertiary >>>studies offer is likely to be confined to those holding verifiable, documented
    NZ citizenship, and even then to be taken up only by those who also believe a
    NZ degree confers the level of international recognition and cachet they aspire
    to.

    Your suspicions count for nothing.
    New Zealand degrees are World Class, as is ably demonstrated by our many >brilliant scientists and entrepreneurs. Newsman is spitting into the wind once >more, and catching it on his chops!
    Tony
    Sadly our university rankings have dropped overall over the last 9
    years . . .

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 11:52:37
    On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:01:49 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 13:00:48 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets
    politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091

    Bill English has admitted he would hve done the same, with the same
    result. Would he have been wrong?

    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students free
    tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee hikes.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Australi haven;t got their changes through the Senate yet - and it may
    become blo9cked thee. New Zealand doesn't need to treat Australians differently unless the Ausrtalians tereat our students differently.
    Its called fair negotiation, and being honest - I don;t expect you to understand JohnO.

    Our students pay to study there. Their's should not study here at our expense. Is this too hard for your tiny little brain to follow?




    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's student
    bribe... to Australians.

    Brilliant.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 11:51:26
    On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 22:06:51 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Nov 2017 17:58:09 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:28:04 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets
    politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091 >>
    Ardern is doing what prime minsters do: confirm that NZ's offer still
    stands and is still made in good faith - the very stuff of international gesture diplomacy.

    Rubbish. If Ardern know what she was doing she would never ask a question
    unless she already knew the answer* and avoided the embarrassment of having the
    door closed in her face.

    * a basic rule of public negotiation.

    And as English confirmed, the likely response was known, he would also
    have made the offer with the knowledge that it was likely to be
    refused.

    Cite.





    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students
    free tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee hikes.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's
    student bribe... to Australians.

    What's so bad about that when, via their insanely overblown mortgages,
    "hard working" Kiwis have for too long been helplessly watching a goliath of an
    Australian bank sucking their "hard-earned" incomes out of their pockets and into its bottomless
    coffers?

    As is their choice. There is no choice in paying for foreigners' education.

    Why should New Zealand retaliate before the Australians actually make
    a decision? Basic negotiation, JOhnO - don't lock yourself into a
    position you would rather not have . . .

    It's not about retaliation you dimwit. NZ students have to pay *now* to study in Australian universities. So we should not be allowing their students to study free in ours.

    Got it yet, dumbo?





    There again, it can come as no surprise that, on October 18 last, this
    same bank, now the largest mortgage-lender in New Zealand, sweetly appointed John Key Chairman of its NZ board, this presumably in reward for his aiding and
    abetting ANZ's
    rampant profit-hoovering during his prime ministerial incumbency.

    I have previously asked you to back up your claim that John Key actively
    promoted house price rises but you ran away without answering.


    Brilliant.

    You couldn't have expressed it better!

    But no need to panic just yet. In fact, I rather suspect any tertiary
    studies offer is likely to be confined to those holding verifiable, documented
    NZ citizenship, and even then to be taken up only by those who also believe a NZ degree confers
    the level of international recognition and cachet they aspire to.

    Your suspicions count for nothing.


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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 19:51:21
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 21:16:28 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:28:04 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets >>>> >politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091 >>>>
    Ardern is doing what prime minsters do: confirm that NZ's offer still >>>>stands
    and is still made in good faith - the very stuff of international gesture >>>>diplomacy.

    Rubbish. If Ardern know what she was doing she would never ask a question >>>unless she already knew the answer* and avoided the embarrassment of having >>>the
    door closed in her face.

    * a basic rule of public negotiation.



    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students >>>> >free
    tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee >>>> >hikes.



    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's
    student bribe... to Australians.

    What's so bad about that when, via their insanely overblown mortgages, >>>>"hard
    working" Kiwis have for too long been helplessly watching a goliath of an >>>>Australian bank sucking their "hard-earned" incomes out of their pockets >>>>and
    into its bottomless coffers?

    As is their choice. There is no choice in paying for foreigners' education. >>>

    There again, it can come as no surprise that, on October 18 last, this >>>>same
    bank, now the largest mortgage-lender in New Zealand, sweetly appointed >>>>John
    Key Chairman of its NZ board, this presumably in reward for his aiding and >>>>abetting ANZ's rampant profit-hoovering during his prime ministerial >>>>incumbency.

    I have previously asked you to back up your claim that John Key actively >>>promoted house price rises but you ran away without answering.


    Brilliant.

    You couldn't have expressed it better!

    But no need to panic just yet. In fact, I rather suspect any tertiary >>>>studies offer is likely to be confined to those holding verifiable, >>>>documented
    NZ citizenship, and even then to be taken up only by those who also believe >>>>a
    NZ degree confers the level of international recognition and cachet they >>>>aspire
    to.

    Your suspicions count for nothing.
    New Zealand degrees are World Class, as is ably demonstrated by our many >>brilliant scientists and entrepreneurs. Newsman is spitting into the wind >>once
    more, and catching it on his chops!
    Tony
    Sadly our university rankings have dropped overall over the last 9
    years . . .
    Sadly they were dropping before that but I repeat our degrees are World Class. They were at the very top and are now still superb.
    Tony

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to nor...@googlegroups.com on Tuesday, November 07, 2017 18:21:39
    On Wednesday, 8 November 2017 14:51:27 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Nov 2017 21:16:28 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:28:04 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> On Tuesday, November 7, 2017 at 10:00:49 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    First Jacinda goes over to Australia to beg for some refugees and gets

    politely ignored:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11941091 >>>>
    Ardern is doing what prime minsters do: confirm that NZ's offer still >>>>stands
    and is still made in good faith - the very stuff of international gesture

    diplomacy.

    Rubbish. If Ardern know what she was doing she would never ask a question >>>unless she already knew the answer* and avoided the embarrassment of
    having
    the
    door closed in her face.

    * a basic rule of public negotiation.



    and now despite the tough talk we're all set to offer Aussie students >>>> >free
    tertiary education while our students over there get hammered with fee >>>> >hikes.



    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/98621571/nz-taxpayers-shouldnt-be-paying-for-australians-education-bill-english-says

    Yep, hard working Kiwis will see their taxes go to funding Labour's >>>> >student bribe... to Australians.

    What's so bad about that when, via their insanely overblown mortgages, >>>>"hard
    working" Kiwis have for too long been helplessly watching a goliath of an

    Australian bank sucking their "hard-earned" incomes out of their pockets >>>>and
    into its bottomless coffers?

    As is their choice. There is no choice in paying for foreigners'
    education.


    There again, it can come as no surprise that, on October 18 last, this >>>>same
    bank, now the largest mortgage-lender in New Zealand, sweetly appointed >>>>John
    Key Chairman of its NZ board, this presumably in reward for his aiding
    and
    abetting ANZ's rampant profit-hoovering during his prime ministerial >>>>incumbency.

    I have previously asked you to back up your claim that John Key actively >>>promoted house price rises but you ran away without answering.


    Brilliant.

    You couldn't have expressed it better!

    But no need to panic just yet. In fact, I rather suspect any tertiary >>>>studies offer is likely to be confined to those holding verifiable, >>>>documented
    NZ citizenship, and even then to be taken up only by those who also
    believe
    a
    NZ degree confers the level of international recognition and cachet they >>>>aspire
    to.

    Your suspicions count for nothing.
    New Zealand degrees are World Class, as is ably demonstrated by our many >>brilliant scientists and entrepreneurs. Newsman is spitting into the wind >>once
    more, and catching it on his chops!
    Tony
    Sadly our university rankings have dropped overall over the last 9
    years . . .
    Sadly they were dropping before that but I repeat our degrees are World
    Class.
    They were at the very top and are now still superb.
    Tony

    Depends which ranking you use. The whingers commonly quote THE rankings which have University of Auckland declining at 192. Other rankings such as QS have it
    steady at 82. Comes down to how the rankings weight various factors, in particular post graduate
    research.

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