Does the coalition of losers think money grows on trees?
Haven't we got enough who've been blinded to reality by Labours spend and borrow attitude?
Is Nationals debt that Labour and Rich whined about so much going to look like a drop into the ocean by Christmas? AND is it likely Jacinda is only mouthing a
political phase when she bangs on about poverty because Labour certainly isn't interested in
giving out their definition of poverty!

Pooh

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On 2017-11-02, Pooh <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

Does the coalition of losers think money grows on trees?
Haven't we got enough who've been blinded to reality by Labours spend and

borrow attitude?

Is Nationals debt that Labour and Rich whined about so much going to look

like a drop into the ocean by Christmas? AND is it likely Jacinda is only mouthing a political phase when she bangs on about poverty because Labour certainly isn't interested in
giving out their definition of poverty!

Let us not forget that the previous National Government had a policy of free and open imigration.

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On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 5:40:32 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:

On 2017-11-02, Pooh <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

Does the coalition of losers think money grows on trees?
Haven't we got enough who've been blinded to reality by Labours spend and

borrow attitude?

Is Nationals debt that Labour and Rich whined about so much going to look

like a drop into the ocean by Christmas? AND is it likely Jacinda is only mouthing a political phase when she bangs on about poverty because Labour certainly isn't interested
in giving out their definition of poverty!

Let us not forget that the previous National Government had a policy of free and open imigration.

I'm not. I never supported it and don't plan on supporting the importation of even more instant beneficiary's.

Pooh

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On Thursday, 2 November 2017 17:40:32 UTC+13, Gordon wrote:

On 2017-11-02, Pooh <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

Does the coalition of losers think money grows on trees?
Haven't we got enough who've been blinded to reality by Labours spend and

borrow attitude?

Is Nationals debt that Labour and Rich whined about so much going to look

like a drop into the ocean by Christmas? AND is it likely Jacinda is only mouthing a political phase when she bangs on about poverty because Labour certainly isn't interested
in giving out their definition of poverty!

Let us not forget that the previous National Government had a policy of free and open imigration.

No they didn't. And thank goodness otherwise we really would be overrun and with the worst kind of useless immigrants.

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On 11/2/2017 5:40 PM, Gordon wrote:

On 2017-11-02, Pooh <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

Does the coalition of losers think money grows on trees?
Haven't we got enough who've been blinded to reality by Labours spend and borrow attitude?
Is Nationals debt that Labour and Rich whined about so much going to look like a drop into the ocean by Christmas? AND is it likely Jacinda is only mouthing a political phase when she bangs on about poverty because Labour certainly isn't interested in

giving out their definition of poverty!

Let us not forget that the previous National Government had a policy of free and open imigration.

And refused entry to an islander pulling the 'climate refugee' bullshit..
If they cleaned up their rubbish and used it as fill their would be less landloss

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On Friday, 3 November 2017 10:29:19 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 5:40:32 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:

On 2017-11-02, Pooh <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

Does the coalition of losers think money grows on trees?
Haven't we got enough who've been blinded to reality by Labours spend and

borrow attitude?

Is Nationals debt that Labour and Rich whined about so much going to look

like a drop into the ocean by Christmas? AND is it likely Jacinda is only mouthing a political phase when she bangs on about poverty because Labour certainly isn't interested
in giving out their definition of poverty!

Let us not forget that the previous National Government had a policy of

free

and open imigration.

With years of unremitting drought steadily dessicating the Western Cape, Cape

Town is now the world's first city find itself facing "Zero Day" - a complete failure of water supply. The inevitable consequences of this need no stating or
speculation.
Public officials are even using panic-inducing words like 'crisis' and 'disaster' in their increasingly urgent public communications.

So what's the betting we'll soon be welcoming unending A380-loads of South

African climate refugees seeking relief over here?

Their water shortage is more to do with lack of planning and lack of investment
in their water storage infrastructure.

That's what you get when your population increases by 55% and your water capacity by 15%

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On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 5:40:32 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:

On 2017-11-02, Pooh <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

Does the coalition of losers think money grows on trees?
Haven't we got enough who've been blinded to reality by Labours spend and

borrow attitude?

Is Nationals debt that Labour and Rich whined about so much going to look

like a drop into the ocean by Christmas? AND is it likely Jacinda is only mouthing a political phase when she bangs on about poverty because Labour certainly isn't interested
in giving out their definition of poverty!

Let us not forget that the previous National Government had a policy of free and open imigration.

With years of unremitting drought steadily dessicating the Western Cape, Cape Town is now the world's first city find itself facing "Zero Day" - a complete failure of water supply. The inevitable consequences of this need no stating or
speculation.
Public officials are even using panic-inducing words like 'crisis' and 'disaster' in their increasingly urgent public communications.

So what's the betting we'll soon be welcoming unending A380-loads of South African climate refugees seeking relief over here?

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On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 10:57:41 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:

On Friday, 3 November 2017 10:29:19 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:

On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 5:40:32 PM UTC+13, Gordon wrote:

On 2017-11-02, Pooh <bowesjohn02@gmail.com> wrote:

Does the coalition of losers think money grows on trees?
Haven't we got enough who've been blinded to reality by Labours spend

and borrow attitude?

Is Nationals debt that Labour and Rich whined about so much going to

look like a drop into the ocean by Christmas? AND is it likely Jacinda is only mouthing a political phase when she bangs on about poverty because Labour certainly isn't
interested in giving out their definition of poverty!

Let us not forget that the previous National Government had a policy of

free

and open imigration.

With years of unremitting drought steadily dessicating the Western Cape,

Cape Town is now the world's first city find itself facing "Zero Day" - a complete failure of water supply. The inevitable consequences of this need no stating or speculation.
Public officials are even using panic-inducing words like 'crisis' and 'disaster' in their increasingly urgent public communications.

So what's the betting we'll soon be welcoming unending A380-loads of South

African climate refugees seeking relief over here?

Their water shortage is more to do with lack of planning and lack of

investment in their water storage infrastructure.

That's what you get when your population increases by 55% and your water

capacity by 15%


South Africa recently earned itself the ignominy of junk status. So who's rushing to invest in its infrastructure?

According to a report released by South African human resources company SAdcorp, almost 830,000 highly skilled jobs are vacant. Highly qualified technical professionals are not available and cumbersome immigration procedures
and regulations make it
difficult for foreigners to obtain work permits. Critical technical and managerial personnel cannot enter the country.

I'm in continual touch with family in Cape Town and they're only too painfully aware of all this and SA's uninvested infrastucture problems. And not just with
water supply. They haven't enough power either because plant has simply not been renewed or
maintained even if only to basic standards. They can't even get sufficient coal to the power stations because the rail network is failing and even the locomotives go un-maintained. So blackouts occur every day - up to 6 hours each
time - organised
according to a publically notified advance schedule. IN every home, when the lights go out, it's now wordlessly accepted as a way of life.

Since Mandela's demise, ignorance, illiteracy and innumeracy among the ANC top smells along with their blatant raping of the Treasury and their pocketing of the nation's wealth, spells doom for a country that would by now have had everything going for it
were it not for the latent - and frequently not so latent - vengeance that apartheid has inevitably sired.

There are just too many scores to be settled, many if not most of these not specifically aimed at the white erstwhile 'apartheid' community per se, but between and even among the indigenous tribes.

But in all this economic mayhem and confusion, there is a muteness about the elder whites' resignation: a kind of "Not so surprising, we knew we had it coming all along."

'An exhaustion of morale and consequent paralysis of will' is the best description I can offer.

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On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 18:40:18 -0700, jmschristophers wrote:

South Africa recently earned itself the ignominy of junk status.

...
...
...

But in all this economic mayhem and confusion, there is a muteness about
the elder whites' resignation: a kind of "Not so surprising, we knew we
had it coming all along."

'An exhaustion of morale and consequent paralysis of will' is the best description I can offer.

Thanks for this. I have been wondering for some time what was happening
with the "rainbow" nation, and whether there could be a less appealing
side of the rosy fairy tale about Mandela, freedom, democracy, equality, racial harmony etc.

Pity, SA used to be perhaps the fifth most powerful country in the
world.

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On Friday, November 3, 2017 at 10:09:51 PM UTC+13, Judges1318 wrote:

On Thu, 02 Nov 2017 18:40:18 -0700, jmschristophers wrote:

South Africa recently earned itself the ignominy of junk status.

...
...
...

But in all this economic mayhem and confusion, there is a muteness about the elder whites' resignation: a kind of "Not so surprising, we knew we
had it coming all along."

'An exhaustion of morale and consequent paralysis of will' is the best description I can offer.

Thanks for this. I have been wondering for some time what was happening
with the "rainbow" nation, and whether there could be a less appealing
side of the rosy fairy tale about Mandela, freedom, democracy, equality, racial harmony etc.

Pity, SA used to be perhaps the fifth most powerful country in the
world.

More recently, SA has even lost both position and cachet as Africa's largest economy to Nigeria.

Mandela, along with the Truth and Reconcilation Commission, came as a temporary
balm to a tortured national soul, but since Mandela's demise, it has been Zuma and his ANC hoods who have set about destroying any possible hope of a shattered phoenix
rising; this through their systematic looting of the public purse, their preferment and promotion of members of their own corrupt tribal cadres, and their lofty, dead-eyed imperviousness to all criticism and personal abuse levelled at them.

Even SA's legislature, the National Assembly, a body that hitherto bore all the
dignity and decorum of democratic Westminster-style governance, now too often resembles a day centre for inter-tribal theatrics and fisticuffs between mental
defectives,

(Now google 'Gupta family' for a taste of the power they wield and how they underpin Zuma.)

South Africa's white minority know only too well what has been violently wrought against Zimbabwe’s white farmers by Mugabe. In both city and country,
a fearful, watchful laager mentality pervades all, this paranoia to be seen in every ‘desirable’
urban street with each home surrounded by electric fences and coiled barbed-wire barriers, plus infra-red alarms and security calling systems, all of which unequivocally announce: 'Under siege.' And there's nothing unusual about seeing residents on
their evening stroll with their dogs, armed with a stout stick "of course, only
in case another dog threatens to attack mine." Most break-ins, if they succeed, are nearly always by chancer opportunist youths, but more often than not this is to raid
fridges and deep-freezers rather than ransack the house for its valuables.

Recommended:

'Verwoerd, Architect of Apartheid' by Henry Kenny.
ISBN 978-1-86842-716-1

A rather heavy read but it gives a 70-year history of policies and conflicts that have inevitably led to SA's decline into junk status.

and:

'How Long Will South Africa Survive?' by R W Johnson.
ISBN 978-86842-634-8

The Emeritus Fellow of Magdalen College, Oxford pulls no punches when it comes to naming and shaming South Africa's economic saboteurs.

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On Thursday, November 2, 2017 at 4:09:52 PM UTC+13, Pooh wrote:

Does the coalition of losers think money grows on trees?
Haven't we got enough who've been blinded to reality by Labours spend and

borrow attitude?

Is Nationals debt that Labour and Rich whined about so much going to look

like a drop into the ocean by Christmas? AND is it likely Jacinda is only mouthing a political phase when she bangs on about poverty because Labour certainly isn't interested in
giving out their definition of poverty!

Pooh

Almost every 'refugee' comes from an islamic country. Almost all terrorism these days is brought about by islam and islamic terrorists. Let us say we will admit no refugees and permanent residents that are muslim. We will return
all muslim illegal
immigrants and asylum seekers to the country from which they originated or the nearest convenient islamic country. But I cannot see Winston's pet doing this.

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