Because somehow, despite cutting back immigration, in an environment where you can't get enough builders and forestry workers, she's not only going to build 10,000 houses a year, but also going to plant 100 million trees a year.

Who the fuck does Jacinda think is going to build these houses and plant these trees? Magic pixies?

Meanwhile back in the real world, forestry companies can't get enough workers and there aren't enough builders.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11849533
"A global demand for logs and competition for workers in primary industries have left Northland with an acute shortage of labourers in the forestry sector-
a situation that may delay planting and harvesting of trees"

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On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 11:58:11 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:

Because somehow, despite cutting back immigration, in an environment where

you can't get enough builders and forestry workers, she's not only going to build 10,000 houses a year, but also going to plant 100 million trees a year.

Who the fuck does Jacinda think is going to build these houses and plant

these trees? Magic pixies?

Meanwhile back in the real world, forestry companies can't get enough workers

and there aren't enough builders.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11849533
"A global demand for logs and competition for workers in primary industries

have left Northland with an acute shortage of labourers in the forestry sector-
a situation that may delay planting and harvesting of trees"

The kids who are currently living in poverty? Or they'll instigate a work for the dole scheme (plant a 10,000 trees a week to be eligible) or just place adds
overseas for interns'? :)

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On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 11:58:11 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:

Because somehow, despite cutting back immigration, in an environment where

you can't get enough builders and forestry workers, she's not only going to build 10,000 houses a year, but also going to plant 100 million trees a year.

Who the fuck does Jacinda think is going to build these houses and plant

these trees? Magic pixies?


It's always been more in hope than expectation, something for which New Zealand
politics has always been notorious, regardless of party. Ardern is now inheriting the decadent legacy of a bottomless swag of dilatory and self-serving policies that go way
back and into the dark days of just aonther repellent neo-con in socialist clothing, Roger Douglas.

Meanwhile back in the real world, forestry companies can't get enough workers

and there aren't enough builders.


And in that same real world, even if imported for those purposes, but with the known scarcity of affordable housing for purchase or rent, where are **they** going to live?

All Ardern's fault, is it? Or, if not, exactly whose?

Nope.

Those endowed with a memory-span longer than that of a gnat will rightly squirm
as they recall this inconvenient truth: that it was John Key and not Jacinda Ardern who would stop at nothing to maintain and even boost the obscenely rampant **unproductive**
wealth of New Zealand's domestic-property speculators, even if it meant wantonly engineering the delay in providing sufficient but sorely overdue new housing.

While airly conning a nation of dreaming, rugby-zonked naifs into trusting that
his smug little smirk was the smile of beneficence and concern for his fellow Kiwis, this plausible little spiv did absolutely nothing but prop up the money-for-nothing
destruction of all hope for the genuinely industrious home-ownership aspirant, money-for-nothing greed being the core characteristic of the selfish and the venal.

As Goebbels might well have advised Key: "Make the lie big enough, and people will believe it."

He might equally have added, "Offer the pathologically greedy ever more wealth for no productive effort or input and you'll have them eating out of the palm of your grasping little hand."

The self-evident facts ma'am - just the self-evident facts.

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On Wednesday, 25 October 2017 13:27:07 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:

On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 11:58:11 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:

Because somehow, despite cutting back immigration, in an environment where

you can't get enough builders and forestry workers, she's not only going to build 10,000 houses a year, but also going to plant 100 million trees a year.

Who the fuck does Jacinda think is going to build these houses and plant

these trees? Magic pixies?

It's always been more in hope than expectation, something for which New

Ah, government by "hope".

Zealand politics has always been notorious, regardless of party. Ardern is

now inheriting the decadent legacy of a bottomless swag of dilatory and self-serving policies that go way back and into the dark days of just aonther repellent neo-con in
socialist clothing, Roger Douglas.

Do you even know what Roger Douglas did? Of so, which if the Rogernomic reforms
do you specifically have a problem with? Or do you just hanker for the good old
days of Muldoon fiddling with the economy?

Meanwhile back in the real world, forestry companies can't get enough

workers and there aren't enough builders.

And in that same real world, even if imported for those purposes, but with

the known scarcity of affordable housing for purchase or rent, where are **they** going to live?

Not too much shortage in Northland, the West Coast, Central North Island etc.

You *do* realise that these trees won't be planted in New Lynn?

All Ardern's fault, is it? Or, if not, exactly whose?

You seem to be ranting and wandering off topic now. It's Adern's fault she promised something completely unworkable.

Nope.

Those endowed with a memory-span longer than that of a gnat will rightly

squirm as they recall this inconvenient truth: that it was John Key and not Jacinda Ardern who would stop at nothing to maintain and even boost the obscenely rampant **
unproductive** wealth of New Zealand's domestic-property speculators, even if it meant wantonly engineering the delay in providing sufficient but sorely overdue new housing.

Do tell, what did John Key to do boost or maintain property speculation?

While airly conning a nation of dreaming, rugby-zonked naifs into trusting

that his smug little smirk was the smile of beneficence and concern for his fellow Kiwis, this plausible little spiv did absolutely nothing but prop up the
money-for-nothing
destruction of all hope for the genuinely industrious home-ownership aspirant, money-for-nothing greed being the core characteristic of the selfish and the venal.

That KDS syndrome still not wearing off? Perhaps you should get some professional help.

As Goebbels might well have advised Key: "Make the lie big enough, and people

will believe it."

He might equally have added, "Offer the pathologically greedy ever more

wealth for no productive effort or input and you'll have them eating out of the
palm of your grasping little hand."

Offer? Was John Key selling property to speculators?

The self-evident facts ma'am - just the self-evident facts.

The *fact" is that the previous government did nothing to encourage property speculation. The *fact* is that property prices rose faster under the previous Labour government. The *fact* is that under National, measures were brought in to dampen the
property market.

All you have brought, KeithBoy, is a load of transparent bullshit.

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On 10/25/2017 11:58 AM, JohnO wrote:

Because somehow, despite cutting back immigration, in an environment where

you can't get enough builders and forestry workers, she's not only going to build 10,000 houses a year, but also going to plant 100 million trees a year.

Who the fuck does Jacinda think is going to build these houses and plant

these trees? Magic pixies?

Meanwhile back in the real world, forestry companies can't get enough workers

and there aren't enough builders.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11849533
"A global demand for logs and competition for workers in primary industries

have left Northland with an acute shortage of labourers in the forestry sector-
a situation that may delay planting and harvesting of trees"

Yup
Who's going to start the nurseries to grow the seedlings?
Or prepare the land?
Or actually do the planting?
Since none of them have worked in the bush its all BS.
And any trees planted need work throughout their lives until they're milled.

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On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 5:26:09 PM UTC+13, george wrote:

On 10/25/2017 11:58 AM, JohnO wrote:

Because somehow, despite cutting back immigration, in an environment where

you can't get enough builders and forestry workers, she's not only going to build 10,000 houses a year, but also going to plant 100 million trees a year.

Who the fuck does Jacinda think is going to build these houses and plant

these trees? Magic pixies?

Meanwhile back in the real world, forestry companies can't get enough

workers and there aren't enough builders.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11849533
"A global demand for logs and competition for workers in primary industries

have left Northland with an acute shortage of labourers in the forestry sector-
a situation that may delay planting and harvesting of trees"

Yup
Who's going to start the nurseries to grow the seedlings?
Or prepare the land?
Or actually do the planting?
Since none of them have worked in the bush its all BS.
And any trees planted need work throughout their lives until they're milled.

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They'll have half a million unemployed next july. They'll have tons of time to plant trees :)

Pooh

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On 10/25/2017 11:26 PM, Pooh wrote:

On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 5:26:09 PM UTC+13, george wrote:

On 10/25/2017 11:58 AM, JohnO wrote:

Because somehow, despite cutting back immigration, in an environment where you can't get enough builders and forestry workers, she's not only going to build 10,000 houses a year, but also going to plant 100 million trees a year. >>>
Who the fuck does Jacinda think is going to build these houses and plant these trees? Magic pixies?

Meanwhile back in the real world, forestry companies can't get enough workers and there aren't enough builders.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11849533
"A global demand for logs and competition for workers in primary industries

have left Northland with an acute shortage of labourers in the forestry sector-
a situation that may delay planting and harvesting of trees"

Yup
Who's going to start the nurseries to grow the seedlings?
Or prepare the land?
Or actually do the planting?
Since none of them have worked in the bush its all BS.
And any trees planted need work throughout their lives until they're milled. >>
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They'll have half a million unemployed next july. They'll have tons of time

to plant trees :)

I've seen people like that at 'work'
You want a job poorly done or, in most cases, not done at all those
'workers' are the ones you go for.
Having done conservation (planting Poplar poles) on creek banks and
planted a few acres of Kauri trees north of Trounson Park and the odd
acreage of Pine I feel they're pulling a 'look at us aren't we good'

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On Wednesday, October 25, 2017 at 5:26:09 PM UTC+13, george wrote:

On 10/25/2017 11:58 AM, JohnO wrote:

Because somehow, despite cutting back immigration, in an environment where

you can't get enough builders and forestry workers, she's not only going to build 10,000 houses a year, but also going to plant 100 million trees a year.

Who the fuck does Jacinda think is going to build these houses and plant

these trees? Magic pixies?

Meanwhile back in the real world, forestry companies can't get enough

workers and there aren't enough builders.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11849533
"A global demand for logs and competition for workers in primary industries

have left Northland with an acute shortage of labourers in the forestry sector-
a situation that may delay planting and harvesting of trees"

Yup
Who's going to start the nurseries to grow the seedlings?
Or prepare the land?
Or actually do the planting?
Since none of them have worked in the bush its all BS.
And any trees planted need work throughout their lives until they're milled.

You really shouldn't sell your beloved party so short George, when you know full well that over the past nine years sufficient numbers of the right people will surely have been selected, educated and trained for these roles, exactly as in the case of the
building industry and its growing needs.

Indeed, you must know that those celebrated top smell visionaries within the National Party have selflessly built and nurtured its success in bringing this about.

Labouring night and day on their fur-lined treadmills, these good people have spent nine long, thankless years of meticulously planned drift, stagnation and hence entrenched zero per-capita productivity to make sure this could and would
be so.

Thus have they triumphantly brought John Key's breathlessly anticipated Brighter Future finally into being as an unrivalled support base for Labour's forthcoming successes. And what, exactly, has John Key's Brighter Future actually brought every New
Zealander, you may rightly ask? Let me count the ways...

Stagnant incomes for the vast majority - obscene CEO salaries and bonuses for their chosen few; their ever widening wealth gap; their for-life house-renting imposed on middle-income earners; their increasing bugger's muddle that is Auckland; their record
suicide rates; their having casually presided over the appearance of third-world childhood diseases; their car-boot homes, their emergency motel accommodation for the homeless; these few to identify only the tip of the poisoned bequest that is their
depthless iceberg.

Oh, frabjous joy!

So, perhaps the National Party's inexhaustible endeavour and success, and the bounty these have bestowed on every New Zealander, explains my brief twinge of sorrow and regret for Bill English, Southland's top cowhand and New Zealand's unique two-time
political failure, on his melancholy decline into his final wilderness years.

But, to be fair, who'd have thought that, with his rarified degree in Restoration Comedy, his sparkling charisma, his personal dynamism, his deftness
with the numbers, and - unarguably the most worthy of all - his greedy, unprincipled filching of
taxpayers' money solely for personal gain, would bring him to such an ignominious pass?

(So, George, please forgive me as I turn aside to dutifully shed a crocodile tear, or several.)

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