• As night follows day...

    From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, October 19, 2017 12:27:14
    http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=NZD&to=USD&view=1D

    This is what an unstable government delivers - international lack of confidence.

    And inevitably you can look forward to prices of everything from petrol to cellphones heading *up*.

    Funding for mortgages comes mostly from overseas. Those mortgages are going to be harder to pay back now.

    Welcome to the Winston government.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, October 19, 2017 15:38:14
    On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 8:27:15 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=NZD&to=USD&view=1D

    This is what an unstable government delivers - international lack of
    confidence.

    And inevitably you can look forward to prices of everything from petrol to
    cellphones heading *up*.

    Funding for mortgages comes mostly from overseas. Those mortgages are going
    to be harder to pay back now.

    Welcome to the Winston government.

    Watch the cost of living soar like a Saturn V. But Rich won't even say boo. He'll just cower under his bidge chanting 'Labour good, National bad'like he's been doing ever since he started trolling in this ng.

    Pooh

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  • From jmschristophers@gmail.com@3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, October 19, 2017 18:00:03
    On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 8:27:15 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=NZD&to=USD&view=1D

    This is what an unstable government delivers - international lack of
    confidence.


    But music to the ears of exporters and the Reserve Bank Governor who, you too easily forget, has said for longer than most can remember that the NZ$ has been
    way overvalued.


    And inevitably you can look forward to prices of everything from petrol to
    cellphones heading *up*.


    Prices increase to meet cash available. It's called inflation, much of it being driven by dumbfuck consumer credit-card abuse and the surrendering to foreign takeover of the country's wonky infrastructure and economy. This has led to a household debt/
    income ratio that, as a direct result of Bill English's dilatory and self-serving behaviour, now stands at $170 dollars spent for every $100 of income gained.


    Funding for mortgages comes mostly from overseas. Those mortgages are going
    to be harder to pay back now.


    Quite right. And no wonder; because for the last 9 years and more, financially
    illiterate Kiwis (i.e. myopic, flightless creatures with their heads deep down rooting in the dirt) have been importing junk like lunatics and speculating for
    unearned
    personal gain rather than investing in-country to build a genuinely productive economy.

    This, since you still don't get it, is **exactly** what JohnKey's "Brighter Future" has been about all along, and he has prosecuted the lie and exploited the broken tax system with all the vigour and bullshit of a true spiv and con-man. The result is
    sky high prices for rotted-out smelly clapboard shacks, household debt the like
    of which has never before been seen, and persistent near-zero per-capita productivity stats mired in perpetual and irretrievable stagnation and stultification.

    If you need to know why, then all too soon, in Parliament, you'll witness the very personification and perpetrators of this same perpetual and irretrievable stagnation and stultification filling the Opposition's front benches. Raddled and corrupt and
    years if not decades past their use-by dates, yet still smug and arrogant to a man as they recline blithely on their born-to-rule conceits[1} and pampered lifetime entitlements.


    Welcome to the Winston government.


    And you're welcome to it, too. After all, it's the only government you'll be getting for the time being.

    Oh, and just to keep you sweetly spoken and with, of course, never a word of malice or rancour for which, only too grievously, you have never received your due recognition, I voted National on Sept 23 and, for good reason.

    All of which inconvenient dose of reality warms the very cockles of your cold, shrivelled heart, doesn't it, JohnBoy?

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to jmschri...@gmail.com on Thursday, October 19, 2017 20:37:58
    On Friday, 20 October 2017 14:00:04 UTC+13, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:
    On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 8:27:15 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:
    http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=NZD&to=USD&view=1D

    This is what an unstable government delivers - international lack of
    confidence.


    But music to the ears of exporters and the Reserve Bank Governor who, you too
    easily forget, has said for longer than most can remember that the NZ$ has been way overvalued.


    And inevitably you can look forward to prices of everything from petrol to
    cellphones heading *up*.


    Prices increase to meet cash available. It's called inflation, much of it
    being driven by dumbfuck consumer credit-card abuse and the surrendering to foreign takeover of the country's wonky infrastructure and economy. This has led to a household debt/
    income ratio that, as a direct result of Bill English's dilatory and self-serving behaviour, now stands at $170 dollars spent for every $100 of income gained.


    Funding for mortgages comes mostly from overseas. Those mortgages are going
    to be harder to pay back now.


    Quite right. And no wonder; because for the last 9 years and more,
    financially illiterate Kiwis (i.e. myopic, flightless creatures with their heads deep down rooting in the dirt) have been importing junk like lunatics and
    speculating for unearned
    personal gain rather than investing in-country to build a genuinely productive economy.

    This, since you still don't get it, is **exactly** what JohnKey's "Brighter
    Future" has been about all along, and he has prosecuted the lie and exploited the broken tax system with all the vigour and bullshit of a true spiv and con-man. The result is
    sky high prices for rotted-out smelly clapboard shacks, household debt the like
    of which has never before been seen, and persistent near-zero per-capita productivity stats mired in perpetual and irretrievable stagnation and stultification.

    If you need to know why, then all too soon, in Parliament, you'll witness the
    very personification and perpetrators of this same perpetual and irretrievable stagnation and stultification filling the Opposition's front benches. Raddled and corrupt and
    years if not decades past their use-by dates, yet still smug and arrogant to a man as they recline blithely on their born-to-rule conceits[1} and pampered lifetime entitlements.


    Welcome to the Winston government.


    And you're welcome to it, too. After all, it's the only government you'll be
    getting for the time being.

    Oh, and just to keep you sweetly spoken and with, of course, never a word of
    malice or rancour for which, only too grievously, you have never received your due recognition, I voted National on Sept 23 and, for good reason.

    All of which inconvenient dose of reality warms the very cockles of your
    cold, shrivelled heart, doesn't it, JohnBoy?

    Well that's such a wandering, random, doddery rant, KeithBoy, it's hard to know
    where to start.

    But seeing you are particularly concerned, and doubtless personally very familiar, with stultification and stagnation, instead of worrying about the National benches you should look at the state of Labour's: Mallard, Curran, Mahuta, Little, Sepuloni,
    Twyford, Woods etc. A pack of 3 term opposition unelectables with zero practical experience in management. Just think, all they've had to do for 9 years is make promises they have no idea how to deliver on. Now they have to...
    it's going to be fun to
    watch this slow motion train wreck unfold.

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to JohnO on Friday, October 20, 2017 04:38:43
    On 2017-10-19, JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=NZD&to=USD&view=1D

    This is what an unstable government delivers - international lack of
    confidence.


    Take a chill pill JohnO.

    How can the Government be unstable when it has not been sworn in yet?

    Your percepition maybe that all hell is about to break lose. It will not.
    Look even 9 years of the National Government could not do that. And you say that Labour et al are all muppets, so it will take them longer.

    See the pill is working. Deep breath.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, October 19, 2017 22:41:01
    Didn't you hear Winston's speech? Even the boss reckons it's about to go pear shaped

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  • From John B. Standard@3:770/3 to JohnO on Saturday, October 21, 2017 10:50:14
    On Friday 20 October at 08:27:15, JohnO wrote:

    http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=NZD&to=USD&view=1D

    This is what an unstable government delivers - international lack of
    confidence.
    And inevitably you can look forward to prices of everything from petrol to
    cellphones heading *up*.
    Funding for mortgages comes mostly from overseas. Those mortgages are going
    to be harder to pay back now.
    Welcome to the Winston government.


    According to your link the NZD dropped more against the USD in the 24
    hours before Winston announced the government than in the 24 hours
    after; and the NZD is still higher than it was on 10 May. The link shows
    that the NZD reached a peak at the end of July and has been generally
    working its way downward since then.

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  • From jmschristophers@gmail.com@3:770/3 to John B. Standard on Friday, October 20, 2017 22:15:51
    On Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 10:50:33 AM UTC+13, John B. Standard wrote:
    On Friday 20 October at 08:27:15, JohnO wrote:

    http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=NZD&to=USD&view=1D

    This is what an unstable government delivers - international lack of
    confidence.
    And inevitably you can look forward to prices of everything from petrol to
    cellphones heading *up*.
    Funding for mortgages comes mostly from overseas. Those mortgages are going
    to be harder to pay back now.
    Welcome to the Winston government.


    According to your link the NZD dropped more against the USD in the 24
    hours before Winston announced the government than in the 24 hours
    after; and the NZD is still higher than it was on 10 May. The link shows that the NZD reached a peak at the end of July and has been generally working its way downward since then.


    Currencies decline - frequently dramatically - in times of uncertainty. But the
    fact that with the irresistible rise and supremacy of Ardern the dollar has dropped so fractionally little could be said to speak of the confidence the country, Peters, and
    the markets are showing in her remarkable once-in-a-generation qualities and potential abilities.

    Her self-containment and comportment together with an eschewing of coarse, confrontational bullshitting and hectoring should work very much in her favour.


    God only knows the country's been tragically in need of it for too long to be thought decent.

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