I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's been in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he lurches.
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will stumble.
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates now,
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote: >> I wonder why!I see that Mark Richardson has suggested that the Greens should work with National. What a challenging coalition that would be!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will stumble.
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates now, >and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's been >in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he lurches.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:I see that Mark Richardson has suggested that the Greens should work with National. What a challenging coalition that would be!
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will stumble. >>
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates now, >> and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's been
in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he lurches.
Tony
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:I see that Mark Richardson has suggested that the Greens should work with National. What a challenging coalition that would be!
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will stumble. >>
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates now, >> and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's been
in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he lurches.
Tony
On 25/09/17 11:48, Tony wrote:It might be better than having Winston involved.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com >>>wrote:I see that Mark Richardson has suggested that the Greens should work with
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will stumble. >>>
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates now, >>> and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's >>>been
in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he >>>lurches.
National. What a challenging coalition that would be!
Tony
I think a National/Greens coalition would work so long as the Greens >concentrated on environmental issues and stops pushing their own form of >liberty dilution via social policy. It will take a long time before
people forget that the Green's leaders actively supported benefit fraud.
On 25/09/17 11:48, Tony wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:I see that Mark Richardson has suggested that the Greens should work with
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will stumble. >>>
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates now, >>> and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's been
in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he lurches.
National. What a challenging coalition that would be!
Tony
I think a National/Greens coalition would work so long as the Greens >concentrated on environmental issues and stops pushing their own form of >liberty dilution via social policy. It will take a long time before
people forget that the Green's leaders actively supported benefit fraud.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:47:16 +1300, allistar <a@b.com> wrote:
On 25/09/17 11:48, Tony wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:I see that Mark Richardson has suggested that the Greens should work with >>> National. What a challenging coalition that would be!
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will stumble.
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates now,
and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's been
in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he lurches.
Tony
I think a National/Greens coalition would work so long as the Greens
concentrated on environmental issues and stops pushing their own form of
liberty dilution via social policy. It will take a long time before
people forget that the Green's leaders actively supported benefit fraud.
So does that mean you are in favour of a water tax, allistar?
Including farms in emission trading? Or just slagging a party for
something they have not done . . .?
On 26/09/17 09:18, Rich80105 wrote:Not only that but they actually did do what you said. Their leaders actively supported benefit fraud! I find that hard to believe, but Rich is happy with it!
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:47:16 +1300, allistar <a@b.com> wrote:
On 25/09/17 11:48, Tony wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com >>>>>wrote:I see that Mark Richardson has suggested that the Greens should work with >>>> National. What a challenging coalition that would be!
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will >>>>>stumble.
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates >>>>>now,
and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's >>>>>been
in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he >>>>>lurches.
Tony
I think a National/Greens coalition would work so long as the Greens
concentrated on environmental issues and stops pushing their own form of >>> liberty dilution via social policy. It will take a long time before
people forget that the Green's leaders actively supported benefit fraud.
So does that mean you are in favour of a water tax, allistar?
No.
Including farms in emission trading? Or just slagging a party for
something they have not done . . .?
What are you referring to? The Green's have social policies of higher >enforced property confiscation than other parties. That's the "liberty >dilution" I was referring to.
I think a National/Greens coalition would work so long as the Greens >concentrated on environmental issues and stops pushing their own form of >liberty dilution via social policy.
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will stumble.
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates now,and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's been in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he lurches.
On Monday, September 25, 2017 at 9:23:24 AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:wrote:
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com
successfully stumbling through New Zealand's politics while also taking the limelight for the past 40 years - and getting paid handsomely to do so, lavish perks and all.I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will stumble.
Other leaders of varying competence have come and gone, but he's been
That takes a well-honed intelligence, a solid knowledge of history, guile andstamina.
and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's been in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he lurches.The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates now,
Quite so, but this is the perennial risk with MMP, so suck it up, JohnBoy!Parliament and the electorate. A consummate politician blessed with the ability not always to take himself as seriously as do his opponents and the media.
Peters knows exactly how to game his coalition partner, the governing party,
Every parliament should have one. Keeps things in proportion andperspective.
As for Saturday's outcome, it's gone exactly the way I had both hoped andvoted.
Assuming things go English's way, then I'll take pleasure in seeing how heguides New Zealand further along National's yellow brick Highway of National Significance, and onward and upward into the sunny uplands of John Key's as-yet-unrealised "Brighter
Mustn't grumble, eh?
allistar <a@b.com> wrote:No they did not. They decried the conditions which unfortunately lead
On 26/09/17 09:18, Rich80105 wrote:Not only that but they actually did do what you said. Their leaders actively >supported benefit fraud! I find that hard to believe, but Rich is happy with it!
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:47:16 +1300, allistar <a@b.com> wrote:
On 25/09/17 11:48, Tony wrote:So does that mean you are in favour of a water tax, allistar?
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>wrote:I see that Mark Richardson has suggested that the Greens should work with >>>>> National. What a challenging coalition that would be!
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will >>>>>>stumble.
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates >>>>>>now,
and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's >>>>>>been
in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he >>>>>>lurches.
Tony
I think a National/Greens coalition would work so long as the Greens
concentrated on environmental issues and stops pushing their own form of >>>> liberty dilution via social policy. It will take a long time before
people forget that the Green's leaders actively supported benefit fraud. >>
No.
Including farms in emission trading? Or just slagging a party for
something they have not done . . .?
What are you referring to? The Green's have social policies of higher >>enforced property confiscation than other parties. That's the "liberty >>dilution" I was referring to.
Tony
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:53:23 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netOf course they did. Are you trying to rewrite history?
dot nz> wrote:
allistar <a@b.com> wrote:No they did not. They decried the conditions which unfortunately lead
On 26/09/17 09:18, Rich80105 wrote:Not only that but they actually did do what you said. Their leaders actively >>supported benefit fraud! I find that hard to believe, but Rich is happy with >>it!
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:47:16 +1300, allistar <a@b.com> wrote:
On 25/09/17 11:48, Tony wrote:So does that mean you are in favour of a water tax, allistar?
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>wrote:I see that Mark Richardson has suggested that the Greens should work with
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will >>>>>>>stumble.
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates >>>>>>>now,
and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions >>>>>>>he's
been
in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he >>>>>>>lurches.
National. What a challenging coalition that would be!
Tony
I think a National/Greens coalition would work so long as the Greens >>>>> concentrated on environmental issues and stops pushing their own form of >>>>> liberty dilution via social policy. It will take a long time before
people forget that the Green's leaders actively supported benefit fraud. >>>
No.
Including farms in emission trading? Or just slagging a party for
something they have not done . . .?
What are you referring to? The Green's have social policies of higher >>>enforced property confiscation than other parties. That's the "liberty >>>dilution" I was referring to.
Tony
to such fraud happening, but did not condone anyone committing benefit
fraud, including Metiria Turei. You are becoming more Trump-like day
by day - why lie unecessarily, Tony - your favourite National may have
given themselves a chance of a 4th term through such deceptions, but
that should not mean that dishonesty is now generally acceptable -
clearly you see dishonesty as the only way to support your views.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:53:23 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netit!
dot nz> wrote:
allistar <a@b.com> wrote:
On 26/09/17 09:18, Rich80105 wrote:Not only that but they actually did do what you said. Their leaders actively >> supported benefit fraud! I find that hard to believe, but Rich is happy with
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 13:47:16 +1300, allistar <a@b.com> wrote:
On 25/09/17 11:48, Tony wrote:So does that mean you are in favour of a water tax, allistar?
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 25 September 2017 09:59:04 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> wrote:I see that Mark Richardson has suggested that the Greens should work with
I wonder why!
The political machinations will be absorbing.
Tony
It's because nobody knows which way the erratic drunken dwarf will >>>>>>> stumble.
The guy's been thrown out by the voters in three different electorates >>>>>>> now,
and has never been a stabilising influence in any of the coalitions he's
been
in so the new government is going to have it's issues whichever way he >>>>>>> lurches.
National. What a challenging coalition that would be!
Tony
I think a National/Greens coalition would work so long as the Greens >>>>> concentrated on environmental issues and stops pushing their own form of >>>>> liberty dilution via social policy. It will take a long time before
people forget that the Green's leaders actively supported benefit fraud. >>>
No.
Including farms in emission trading? Or just slagging a party for
something they have not done . . .?
What are you referring to? The Green's have social policies of higher
enforced property confiscation than other parties. That's the "liberty
dilution" I was referring to.
TonyNo they did not. They decried the conditions which unfortunately lead
to such fraud happening, but did not condone anyone committing benefit
fraud, including Metiria Turei. You are becoming more Trump-like day
by day - why lie unecessarily, Tony - your favourite National may have
given themselves a chance of a 4th term through such deceptions, but
that should not mean that dishonesty is now generally acceptable -
clearly you see dishonesty as the only way to support your views.
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