• Are you happy now Rich?

    From Tony @3:770/3 to All on Sunday, September 03, 2017 02:16:52
    XPost: nz.politics

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96450064/pair-rub-poison-in-face-of-nelson-mp-nick-smith-threaten-family
    These are the same sort of people that saboutage helicopters , that prevent law abiding people from going about their daily business, that impact the ability of people to do their work by blocking roads which in turn results in lower profit and reduced employment.
    Some years ago I was prevented, together with several hundred other people, from honouring the sacrifice of our war veterans by a rabble that were protesting against some imagined nonsense; just to get publicity. In all probability most if not all were paid a couple of dollars and a joint or two to do it! Ignorant poseurs the lot of them!
    Is this what your New Zealand dream is? I think it just might be!
    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Sunday, September 03, 2017 22:24:49
    On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 02:16:52 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96450064/pair-rub-poison-in-face-of-nelson-mp-nick-smith-threaten-family
    These are the same sort of people that saboutage helicopters , that prevent law
    abiding people from going about their daily business, that impact the ability >of people to do their work by blocking roads which in turn results in lower >profit and reduced employment.
    You do like putting people in categories don't you. Clearly these are
    not the same people, as their has been an arrest in the helicopter
    case - I too hope there is a conviction,


    Some years ago I was prevented, together with several hundred other people, >from honouring the sacrifice of our war veterans by a rabble that were >protesting against some imagined nonsense; just to get publicity.
    For a period of some years I participated in just such a demonstration
    as you describe - marching through the city with current and past
    soldiers and others. In those days there was considerable disruption
    to traffic, and there were also on fairly rare occasions individuals
    or small groups who protested that we were glorifying war and that the
    parades should cease. They were generally treated with good humour by
    the veterans; I remember on old man telling me that the right to
    protest (in a civilised way), was one of the things they had fought
    for.

    In all
    probability most if not all were paid a couple of dollars and a joint or two to
    do it! Ignorant poseurs the lot of them!
    I suspect a few did come out in the Anzac parades for the few pounds
    worth of meal and drinks at the RSA afterwards, as well of course for
    the memories and the company, but I wouldn't describe them or any
    ptoesters against he parades as poseurs - but you are doubtless more
    expert on beng a poseur than I am.

    Is this what your New Zealand dream is? I think it just might be!
    Tony
    I'm glad you are getting the dreams you deserve Tony.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Monday, September 04, 2017 09:09:20
    On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 22:24:49 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 02:16:52 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96450064/pair-rub-poison-in-face-of-nelson-mp-nick-smith-threaten-family
    These are the same sort of people that saboutage helicopters , that prevent law
    abiding people from going about their daily business, that impact the ability >>of people to do their work by blocking roads which in turn results in lower >>profit and reduced employment.
    You do like putting people in categories don't you. Clearly these are
    not the same people, as there has been an arrest in the helicopter
    case - I too hope there is a conviction,

    And now the group that was protesting against the poison drop claim
    that none of their members were involved in an argument with Nick
    Smith, but are also claiming that they have been told that there was
    no smearing of rat poison, or indeed any physical contact at all - and
    that they understand a recording exists of the incident.

    This story has some way to go . . .



    Some years ago I was prevented, together with several hundred other people, >>from honouring the sacrifice of our war veterans by a rabble that were >>protesting against some imagined nonsense; just to get publicity.
    For a period of some years I participated in just such a demonstration
    as you describe - marching through the city with current and past
    soldiers and others. In those days there was considerable disruption
    to traffic, and there were also on fairly rare occasions individuals
    or small groups who protested that we were glorifying war and that the >parades should cease. They were generally treated with good humour by
    the veterans; I remember on old man telling me that the right to
    protest (in a civilised way), was one of the things they had fought
    for.

    In all
    probability most if not all were paid a couple of dollars and a joint or two to
    do it! Ignorant poseurs the lot of them!
    I suspect a few did come out in the Anzac parades for the few pounds
    worth of meal and drinks at the RSA afterwards, as well of course for
    the memories and the company, but I wouldn't describe them or any
    ptoesters against he parades as poseurs - but you are doubtless more
    expert on beng a poseur than I am.

    Is this what your New Zealand dream is? I think it just might be!
    Tony
    I'm glad you are getting the dreams you deserve Tony.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Sunday, September 03, 2017 17:35:58
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 02:16:52 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96450064/pair-rub-poison-in-face-of-nelson-mp-nick-smith-threaten-family
    These are the same sort of people that saboutage helicopters , that prevent >>law
    abiding people from going about their daily business, that impact the ability >>of people to do their work by blocking roads which in turn results in lower >>profit and reduced employment.
    You do like putting people in categories don't you. Clearly these are
    not the same people, as their has been an arrest in the helicopter
    case - I too hope there is a conviction,
    No I don't do that, it is something that you do however. I didn't say or imply that these were the same people. Why don't you do a remedial reading course.


    Some years ago I was prevented, together with several hundred other people, >>from honouring the sacrifice of our war veterans by a rabble that were >>protesting against some imagined nonsense; just to get publicity.
    For a period of some years I participated in just such a demonstration
    as you describe - marching through the city with current and past
    soldiers and others. In those days there was considerable disruption
    to traffic, and there were also on fairly rare occasions individuals
    or small groups who protested that we were glorifying war and that the >parades should cease. They were generally treated with good humour by
    the veterans; I remember on old man telling me that the right to
    protest (in a civilised way), was one of the things they had fought
    for.
    I don't have and have never had a problem with demonstrations that are signalled so that people can make alternative arrangements. The rabble I referred to were protesting against an armament conference and managed to prevent several coaches from delivering veterans and their supporters to the venue where the service was being held. There was no warning of the protest and therefore no police presence to ensure the safe passage of ordinary people going about their lawful (and advertised) business. If you think that sort of demonstration is OK then you do not care about the rights of other people, only your rights.

    In all
    probability most if not all were paid a couple of dollars and a joint or two >>to
    do it! Ignorant poseurs the lot of them!
    I suspect a few did come out in the Anzac parades for the few pounds
    worth of meal and drinks at the RSA afterwards, as well of course for
    the memories and the company, but I wouldn't describe them or any
    ptoesters against he parades as poseurs - but you are doubtless more
    expert on beng a poseur than I am.
    Don't be so hard on yourself, you fit the bill admirably; pretending to care and pretending to be even handed when you are clearly a shallow political hack that cares not one jot about this country.

    Is this what your New Zealand dream is? I think it just might be!
    Tony
    I'm glad you are getting the dreams you deserve Tony.
    I always do, and I sleep well knowing that we have a country that tolerates people of diverse opinions, even someone like you!
    I have never had a problem with you expressing an opinion even when it is stupid; I do however have a problem with you making up stuff in a transparent attempt to convince others that the opinion is valid.
    "Making up stuff" is a euphamism for lying.

    Tony

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Sunday, September 03, 2017 17:36:58
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 22:24:49 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 02:16:52 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/96450064/pair-rub-poison-in-face-of-nelson-mp-nick-smith-threaten-family
    These are the same sort of people that saboutage helicopters , that prevent >>>law
    abiding people from going about their daily business, that impact the >>>ability
    of people to do their work by blocking roads which in turn results in lower >>>profit and reduced employment.
    You do like putting people in categories don't you. Clearly these are
    not the same people, as there has been an arrest in the helicopter
    case - I too hope there is a conviction,

    And now the group that was protesting against the poison drop claim
    that none of their members were involved in an argument with Nick
    Smith, but are also claiming that they have been told that there was
    no smearing of rat poison, or indeed any physical contact at all - and
    that they understand a recording exists of the incident.

    This story has some way to go . . .
    So?



    Some years ago I was prevented, together with several hundred other people, >>>from honouring the sacrifice of our war veterans by a rabble that were >>>protesting against some imagined nonsense; just to get publicity.
    For a period of some years I participated in just such a demonstration
    as you describe - marching through the city with current and past
    soldiers and others. In those days there was considerable disruption
    to traffic, and there were also on fairly rare occasions individuals
    or small groups who protested that we were glorifying war and that the >>parades should cease. They were generally treated with good humour by
    the veterans; I remember on old man telling me that the right to
    protest (in a civilised way), was one of the things they had fought
    for.

    In all
    probability most if not all were paid a couple of dollars and a joint or two >>>to
    do it! Ignorant poseurs the lot of them!
    I suspect a few did come out in the Anzac parades for the few pounds
    worth of meal and drinks at the RSA afterwards, as well of course for
    the memories and the company, but I wouldn't describe them or any
    ptoesters against he parades as poseurs - but you are doubtless more
    expert on beng a poseur than I am.

    Is this what your New Zealand dream is? I think it just might be!
    Tony
    I'm glad you are getting the dreams you deserve Tony.

    Tony

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