• A growing population

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, February 26, 2016 14:31:42
    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to All on Friday, February 26, 2016 15:37:47
    On 26/02/2016 2:31 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg



    Oh dear - there goes that obsession again.

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Saturday, February 27, 2016 09:49:57
    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Saturday, February 27, 2016 14:44:47
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:10:08 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing
    out, Allistar
    Allistar didn't post I did. (Think before you rant off)


    You claim you adhore waste. And you a labour party apologist !!
    So what Government departments will the axe ?





    - those funds come largely from taxpayers; the effect of
    the waste is that we use funds for little benefit, at a time when we
    are already rapidly increasing debt, which itself requires tax revenue
    for interest, and will future taxation to repay the capital.

    The "white elephants" also point out the hypocrisy of the government
    that demonises individual beneficiaries while doling out corporate
    welfare, that lies about selling state assets

    What happen to the 300,000 little pinkos who supported the coalition of losers.
    Silly save or assets campaign.

    Only 30,000 signed up to save a beach. I suspect very few of the 30,000 would
    be part of the 300,000
    as they were spending their own money.






    (you will be aware that
    housing is at least in part in crisis because the government has
    largely been selling off state houses instead of building more . . .
    so much for stopping asset sales . . .).

    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government
    assistance
    What talk was that? cite
    Venom from the standard doesn't count.


    - ask ourself why is a bank "too large to fail" while those
    in poverty are too small to save?

    National appear to be at the stage where they know they will not be in
    power for much longer, and are taking what they can while they can -
    the arrogance of the third term . . .
    Replaced with what.
    A labour party that has a leader appointed by the unions who gets around 9% in the polls on a good day.
    A coalition of 3 parties that hate each other .
    A 3 headed old dog.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to JohnO on Saturday, February 27, 2016 15:08:59
    On 2/27/2016 2:56 PM, JohnO wrote:
    On Saturday, 27 February 2016 11:10:18 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>
    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . .
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing
    out, Allistar - those funds come largely from taxpayers; the effect of
    the waste is that we use funds for little benefit, at a time when we
    are already rapidly increasing debt, which itself requires tax revenue
    for interest, and will future taxation to repay the capital.

    The "white elephants" also point out the hypocrisy of the government
    that demonises individual beneficiaries while doling out corporate
    welfare, that lies about selling state assets (you will be aware that
    housing is at least in part in crisis because the government has
    largely been selling off state houses instead of building more . . .
    so much for stopping asset sales . . .).

    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government
    assistance - ask ourself why is a bank "too large to fail" while those
    in poverty are too small to save?

    What talk is this? Voices inside your tiny little head? Otherwise cite them.

    This is what Dickbot does:" posts "it seems...", "there has been talk..."
    etc. It's just bullshit he's made up. A recidivist liar with an uncontrollable obsession with Key and National.


    National appear to be at the stage where they know they will not be in
    power for much longer,

    Right. That's because they're polling the same or better than they have for
    the last 12 years?

    Does anyone, anywhere believe your transparent bullshit, Dickbot?

    Well he does because he has to
    anything approaching reality is another 3 years in the wilds for him and
    his buddies

    and are taking what they can while they can -
    the arrogance of the third term . . .

    They probably are arrogant. Hard not to be when they are so, so far ahead of
    their opposition.

    They wouldn't have to be arrogant.
    Its only liebor and the greens assisted by the peters party and they are reminded of their low showing every time theres a party vote in the House

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Friday, February 26, 2016 17:56:29
    On Saturday, 27 February 2016 11:10:18 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing
    out, Allistar - those funds come largely from taxpayers; the effect of
    the waste is that we use funds for little benefit, at a time when we
    are already rapidly increasing debt, which itself requires tax revenue
    for interest, and will future taxation to repay the capital.

    The "white elephants" also point out the hypocrisy of the government
    that demonises individual beneficiaries while doling out corporate
    welfare, that lies about selling state assets (you will be aware that
    housing is at least in part in crisis because the government has
    largely been selling off state houses instead of building more . . .
    so much for stopping asset sales . . .).

    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government
    assistance - ask ourself why is a bank "too large to fail" while those
    in poverty are too small to save?

    What talk is this? Voices inside your tiny little head? Otherwise cite them.

    This is what Dickbot does:" posts "it seems...", "there has been talk..." etc. It's just bullshit he's made up. A recidivist liar with an uncontrollable obsession with Key and National.


    National appear to be at the stage where they know they will not be in
    power for much longer,

    Right. That's because they're polling the same or better than they have for the
    last 12 years?

    Does anyone, anywhere believe your transparent bullshit, Dickbot?

    and are taking what they can while they can -
    the arrogance of the third term . . .

    They probably are arrogant. Hard not to be when they are so, so far ahead of their opposition.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, February 27, 2016 15:35:11
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:44:47 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:10:08 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>
    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing
    out, Allistar
    Allistar didn't post I did. (Think before you rant off)

    My apologies to Allistar.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Monday, February 29, 2016 13:02:58
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:msi1db9hs9h4rvcees91o2jajfjc7s0f8r@4ax.com...
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing
    out, Allistar - those funds come largely from taxpayers; the effect of
    the waste is that we use funds for little benefit, at a time when we
    are already rapidly increasing debt, which itself requires tax revenue
    for interest, and will future taxation to repay the capital.


    Yet you're happy with PM's misapproriating (I'm being nice here) PM funds
    and The Party changing the law and backdating it. Along with Labour paying close to $1 billion for a clapped out train set that will require taxpayer funds forever more? Rich your hypocrisy and blindness to Labour failings are legend and not helped by such stupid comments.

    The "white elephants" also point out the hypocrisy of the government
    that demonises individual beneficiaries while doling out corporate
    welfare, that lies about selling state assets (you will be aware that
    housing is at least in part in crisis because the government has
    largely been selling off state houses instead of building more . . .
    so much for stopping asset sales . . .).


    Those 'demonised' beneficiaries were in most cases rorting the system like
    dies in the wool Labour supporters Rich.

    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government
    assistance - ask ourself why is a bank "too large to fail" while those
    in poverty are too small to save?


    Probably because if a bank fails New Zealand as a whole suffers unlike those
    in 'poverty' seem to be a fiction of the loopy left.

    National appear to be at the stage where they know they will not be in
    power for much longer, and are taking what they can while they can -
    the arrogance of the third term . . .


    Rich you need to get help. God knows how far further over the edge a
    National win in 2017 will push you.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Monday, February 29, 2016 13:04:55
    "JohnO" <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote in message news:84a30e5d-3f94-4c5d-9a4f-a75381926648@googlegroups.com...
    On Saturday, 27 February 2016 11:10:18 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . .
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing
    out, Allistar - those funds come largely from taxpayers; the effect of
    the waste is that we use funds for little benefit, at a time when we
    are already rapidly increasing debt, which itself requires tax revenue
    for interest, and will future taxation to repay the capital.

    The "white elephants" also point out the hypocrisy of the government
    that demonises individual beneficiaries while doling out corporate
    welfare, that lies about selling state assets (you will be aware that
    housing is at least in part in crisis because the government has
    largely been selling off state houses instead of building more . . .
    so much for stopping asset sales . . .).

    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government
    assistance - ask ourself why is a bank "too large to fail" while those
    in poverty are too small to save?

    What talk is this? Voices inside your tiny little head? Otherwise cite
    them.

    This is what Dickbot does:" posts "it seems...", "there has been talk..." etc. It's just bullshit he's made up. A recidivist liar with an uncontrollable obsession with Key and National.


    National appear to be at the stage where they know they will not be in
    power for much longer,

    Right. That's because they're polling the same or better than they have
    for the last 12 years?

    Does anyone, anywhere believe your transparent bullshit, Dickbot?

    and are taking what they can while they can -
    the arrogance of the third term . . .

    They probably are arrogant. Hard not to be when they are so, so far ahead
    of their opposition.

    He's in Hans Christian Rich mode JohnO. That's the trouble with multiple personality disorder: Sometimes it's hard to figure which personality you're
    in touch with.

    Pooh

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  • From BR@3:770/3 to All on Monday, February 29, 2016 17:16:39
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:10:08 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds

    So you would strongly disagree with Cullen's buyback of the trainset
    then?

    There are many more examples of government waste during Labour's time
    in government, but they to numerous to list here.

    Bill.

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to Liberty on Monday, February 29, 2016 18:27:39
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:44:47 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:10:08 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>
    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing
    out, Allistar
    Allistar didn't post I did. (Think before you rant off)


    You claim you adhore waste. And you a labour party apologist !!
    So what Government departments will the axe ?





    - those funds come largely from taxpayers; the effect of
    the waste is that we use funds for little benefit, at a time when we
    are already rapidly increasing debt, which itself requires tax revenue
    for interest, and will future taxation to repay the capital.

    The "white elephants" also point out the hypocrisy of the government
    that demonises individual beneficiaries while doling out corporate
    welfare, that lies about selling state assets

    What happen to the 300,000 little pinkos who supported the coalition of losers. Silly save or assets campaign.

    Only 30,000 signed up to save a beach. I suspect very few of the 30,000 would be part of the 300,000
    as they were spending their own money.






    (you will be aware that
    housing is at least in part in crisis because the government has
    largely been selling off state houses instead of building more . . .
    so much for stopping asset sales . . .).

    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government >>assistance
    What talk was that? cite

    Still waiting for a cite Rich.









    Venom from the standard doesn't count.


    - ask ourself why is a bank "too large to fail" while those
    in poverty are too small to save?

    National appear to be at the stage where they know they will not be in >>power for much longer, and are taking what they can while they can -
    the arrogance of the third term . . .
    Replaced with what.
    A labour party that has a leader appointed by the unions who gets around 9% in the polls on a good day.
    A coalition of 3 parties that hate each other .
    A 3 headed old dog.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to Liberty on Sunday, February 28, 2016 23:58:58
    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:44:47 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:10:08 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>>>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing
    out, Allistar
    Allistar didn't post I did. (Think before you rant off)


    You claim you adhore waste. And you a labour party apologist !!
    So what Government departments will the axe ?





    - those funds come largely from taxpayers; the effect of
    the waste is that we use funds for little benefit, at a time when we
    are already rapidly increasing debt, which itself requires tax revenue >>>for interest, and will future taxation to repay the capital.

    The "white elephants" also point out the hypocrisy of the government
    that demonises individual beneficiaries while doling out corporate >>>welfare, that lies about selling state assets

    What happen to the 300,000 little pinkos who supported the coalition of >>losers. Silly save or assets campaign.

    Only 30,000 signed up to save a beach. I suspect very few of the 30,000 >>would be part of the 300,000
    as they were spending their own money.






    (you will be aware that
    housing is at least in part in crisis because the government has
    largely been selling off state houses instead of building more . . .
    so much for stopping asset sales . . .).

    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government >>>assistance
    What talk was that? cite

    Still waiting for a cite Rich.
    What a delightully naive person you are Liberty! Pigs will fly when the cite arrives.









    Venom from the standard doesn't count.


    - ask ourself why is a bank "too large to fail" while those
    in poverty are too small to save?

    National appear to be at the stage where they know they will not be in >>>power for much longer, and are taking what they can while they can -
    the arrogance of the third term . . .
    Replaced with what.
    A labour party that has a leader appointed by the unions who gets around 9% >>in the polls on a good day.
    A coalition of 3 parties that hate each other .
    A 3 headed old dog.

    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Monday, February 29, 2016 21:14:01
    On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 18:27:39 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:44:47 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:10:08 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>
    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>>>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing
    out, Allistar
    Allistar didn't post I did. (Think before you rant off)


    You claim you adhore waste. And you a labour party apologist !!
    So what Government departments will the axe ?





    - those funds come largely from taxpayers; the effect of
    the waste is that we use funds for little benefit, at a time when we
    are already rapidly increasing debt, which itself requires tax revenue >>>for interest, and will future taxation to repay the capital.

    The "white elephants" also point out the hypocrisy of the government
    that demonises individual beneficiaries while doling out corporate >>>welfare, that lies about selling state assets

    What happen to the 300,000 little pinkos who supported the coalition of losers. Silly save or assets campaign.

    Only 30,000 signed up to save a beach. I suspect very few of the 30,000 would be part of the 300,000
    as they were spending their own money.






    (you will be aware that
    housing is at least in part in crisis because the government has
    largely been selling off state houses instead of building more . . .
    so much for stopping asset sales . . .).

    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government >>>assistance
    What talk was that? cite

    Still waiting for a cite Rich.

    It was on radio; Bill English was being asked about the problems for
    banks due to the expected number of dairy farmers getting into
    financial difficulties, combined with the potential problems of
    unaffordability of housing leading to a higer proportion of loans
    getting into arrears as unemployment was projected to rise, plus
    higher debt from firms like Fonterra making refinancing of debt
    through foreign investors potentially difficult as the world economy
    mooves towards recession - leading to the possibility of the banks
    needing similar assistance as was provided in 2009. From memory
    English indicated that he didn't think the banks would need
    assistance, but the topic did come up. It would most likely have been
    on National Radio, but I cannot remember what day it was on so do not
    have a cite.

    The principle is however valid - we have a reserve bank systemm
    designed to give support to banks in times of need, but in the early
    years of government Bill English did a lot of travelling to shore up
    banks which would otherwise have had problems rolling over investments
    - in effect the government undertook borrowing which was nlent to the
    banks to tide them over. The major banks were considered then, by both
    Labout and National, as being "too big to fail" - why are some people
    then "too small to save"?









    Venom from the standard doesn't count.


    - ask ourself why is a bank "too large to fail" while those
    in poverty are too small to save?

    National appear to be at the stage where they know they will not be in >>>power for much longer, and are taking what they can while they can -
    the arrogance of the third term . . .
    Replaced with what.
    A labour party that has a leader appointed by the unions who gets around 9%
    in the polls on a good day.
    A coalition of 3 parties that hate each other .
    A 3 headed old dog.

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:07:00
    On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 21:14:01 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:



    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government >>>>assistance
    What talk was that? cite

    Still waiting for a cite Rich.

    It was on radio; Bill English was being asked about the problems for
    banks due to the expected number of dairy farmers getting into
    financial difficulties, combined with the potential problems of >unaffordability of housing leading to a higer proportion of loans
    getting into arrears as unemployment was projected to rise, plus
    higher debt from firms like Fonterra making refinancing of debt
    through foreign investors potentially difficult as the world economy
    mooves towards recession - leading to the possibility of the banks
    needing similar assistance as was provided in 2009. From memory
    English indicated that he didn't think the banks would need
    assistance, but the topic did come up. It would most likely have been
    on National Radio, but I cannot remember what day it was on so do not
    have a cite.

    You can't remember a date. Yet you can remember all the details
    How convenient.
    More likely you have twisted some informative comment by
    Bill English into your own deluded dogma.








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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:21:20
    On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 23:58:58 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:

    Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:44:47 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:10:08 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>>>>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing >>>>out, Allistar
    Allistar didn't post I did. (Think before you rant off)


    You claim you adhore waste. And you a labour party apologist !!
    So what Government departments will the axe ?





    - those funds come largely from taxpayers; the effect of
    the waste is that we use funds for little benefit, at a time when we >>>>are already rapidly increasing debt, which itself requires tax revenue >>>>for interest, and will future taxation to repay the capital.

    The "white elephants" also point out the hypocrisy of the government >>>>that demonises individual beneficiaries while doling out corporate >>>>welfare, that lies about selling state assets

    What happen to the 300,000 little pinkos who supported the coalition of >>>losers. Silly save or assets campaign.

    Only 30,000 signed up to save a beach. I suspect very few of the 30,000 >>>would be part of the 300,000
    as they were spending their own money.






    (you will be aware that
    housing is at least in part in crisis because the government has >>>>largely been selling off state houses instead of building more . . . >>>>so much for stopping asset sales . . .).

    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government >>>>assistance
    What talk was that? cite

    Still waiting for a cite Rich.
    What a delightully naive person you are Liberty! Pigs will fly when the cite >arrives.

    I don't think there is much chance of seeing flying pigs.
    Rich has a history of getting all hysterical over cries of the day.
    Never backs them up with facts.
    There is a underlying theme to most of Richs rants
    It is John Key fault.
    It is National fault.
    The sun shines out of Labour.
    Little is our is our saviour.










    Venom from the standard doesn't count.


    - ask ourself why is a bank "too large to fail" while those
    in poverty are too small to save?

    National appear to be at the stage where they know they will not be in >>>>power for much longer, and are taking what they can while they can - >>>>the arrogance of the third term . . .
    Replaced with what.
    A labour party that has a leader appointed by the unions who gets around 9% >>>in the polls on a good day.
    A coalition of 3 parties that hate each other .
    A 3 headed old dog.

    Tony

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, March 01, 2016 12:30:29
    On 29/02/2016 5:16 p.m., BR wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:10:08 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>
    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . .
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds

    So you would strongly disagree with Cullen's buyback of the trainset
    then?


    No he wouldn't. Too thick.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to buggeroff@spammer.com on Friday, March 04, 2016 10:35:02
    "BR" <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote in message news:och7db9a1qpfc3p8fq9q8gdpsmdq167vs5@4ax.com...
    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:10:08 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds

    So you would strongly disagree with Cullen's buyback of the trainset
    then?

    There are many more examples of government waste during Labour's time
    in government, but they to numerous to list here.

    Bill.

    Nah. Rich claimed it was a National asset. Meaning of course it'd cost
    National $billion to keep it going.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, March 04, 2016 10:33:35
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:suu7db9h66h30a4h7qc30o6925kan338d1@4ax.com...
    On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 18:27:39 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 14:44:47 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 11:10:08 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Feb 2016 09:49:57 +1300, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 26 Feb 2016 14:31:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:

    They had nearly died out, but with a concerted effort . . . >>>>>>https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CcEzTrFUYAADZtf.jpg

    Your point is?
    I abhore the waste of government funds - as you are fond of pointing >>>>out, Allistar
    Allistar didn't post I did. (Think before you rant off)


    You claim you adhore waste. And you a labour party apologist !!
    So what Government departments will the axe ?





    - those funds come largely from taxpayers; the effect of
    the waste is that we use funds for little benefit, at a time when we >>>>are already rapidly increasing debt, which itself requires tax revenue >>>>for interest, and will future taxation to repay the capital.

    The "white elephants" also point out the hypocrisy of the government >>>>that demonises individual beneficiaries while doling out corporate >>>>welfare, that lies about selling state assets

    What happen to the 300,000 little pinkos who supported the coalition of >>>losers. Silly save or assets campaign.

    Only 30,000 signed up to save a beach. I suspect very few of the 30,000 >>>would be part of the 300,000
    as they were spending their own money.






    (you will be aware that
    housing is at least in part in crisis because the government has >>>>largely been selling off state houses instead of building more . . . >>>>so much for stopping asset sales . . .).

    Recently there has been talk of banks possibly needing government >>>>assistance
    What talk was that? cite

    Still waiting for a cite Rich.

    It was on radio; Bill English was being asked about the problems for
    banks due to the expected number of dairy farmers getting into
    financial difficulties, combined with the potential problems of unaffordability of housing leading to a higer proportion of loans
    getting into arrears as unemployment was projected to rise, plus
    higher debt from firms like Fonterra making refinancing of debt
    through foreign investors potentially difficult as the world economy
    mooves towards recession - leading to the possibility of the banks
    needing similar assistance as was provided in 2009. From memory
    English indicated that he didn't think the banks would need
    assistance, but the topic did come up. It would most likely have been
    on National Radio, but I cannot remember what day it was on so do not
    have a cite.

    The principle is however valid - we have a reserve bank systemm
    designed to give support to banks in times of need, but in the early
    years of government Bill English did a lot of travelling to shore up
    banks which would otherwise have had problems rolling over investments
    - in effect the government undertook borrowing which was nlent to the
    banks to tide them over. The major banks were considered then, by both
    Labout and National, as being "too big to fail" - why are some people
    then "too small to save"?



    Labout! Now that's a freudian slip if I've ever seen one. Rich must be
    opening his eyes as at long last :)

    As to the rest of Hans Christian Rich's tale. Pfft!

    Pooh







    Venom from the standard doesn't count.


    - ask ourself why is a bank "too large to fail" while those
    in poverty are too small to save?

    National appear to be at the stage where they know they will not be in >>>>power for much longer, and are taking what they can while they can - >>>>the arrogance of the third term . . .
    Replaced with what.
    A labour party that has a leader appointed by the unions who gets around >>>9% in the polls on a good day.
    A coalition of 3 parties that hate each other .
    A 3 headed old dog.


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