• Time to clean up our water

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, August 17, 2017 09:16:30
    Sad that again our current government just doesn't get it - and they
    and their supporters are being dishonest:.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11904600

    Watching the bellyaching about Labour's water policy, you could almost
    be forgiven for believing that the sky's about to fall. One thing's
    for sure, the bellyachers' free water ride may be over.

    The politics of water is complex but far from impossible to achieve,
    and the spanner throwing from the competing interests is fierce. Every
    trick in the book is on display because the Government and Federated
    Farmers et al know that the average punter's eyes glaze over when
    detailed discussion about water occurs.

    One just had to watch Steven Joyce and Michelle Boag on Q+A over the
    weekend, to see how nervous they are. It's finally dawning on them how important the issue of degraded waterways is to voters, and how the
    tolerance tipping point has been reached.

    The talking points from National's stalwarts are predictable but
    hysterical. Cabbages will be $18! There'll be a $75 water charge on
    your next bottle of wine! Dairy farmers will go broke! Labour hasn't
    done its homework! Devious and disgusting!

    It's also why they use the "tax" word for what is a "royalty" - which
    is designed to ensure that polluters will contribute towards paying
    for their own pollution. Finally.

    There's also been much flailing and wailing around what price Labour
    will set. Let's just say that the mathematics employed by some needs a
    bit of after-school help from a tutor. It's more wilful confusion than
    mental slowness. I think.

    But, trust me. Labour's water policy is not as difficult to understand
    as you might think. Stay with me.

    The policy shows a royalty on bottled water based on a per-litre rate,
    and also a royalty on irrigation water for every 1000 litres, or cubic
    metre, used. The money raised will be used to clean up the waterways.

    Jacinda Ardern has said that should her party be in a position to form
    a Government after the election, she would meet with all affected
    sectors to set fair and proportionate rates.

    Both Labour finance spokesman Grant Robertson and water spokesman
    David Parker say that the likely rate for irrigators will be between 1
    or 2 cents per 1000 litres.

    By any honest calculation - not the stuff being pulled out of the
    rural sector's proverbial - this is about as far from onerous as it
    gets.

    A couple of cents per 1000 litres will not bankrupt farmers or
    growers, and the toy-throwing is only serving to convince the public
    that the cleaning up of our waterways is more important than ever.
    Going over the top is a pitiful political strategy.

    A couple of cents per 1000 litres is not going to bankrupt farmers or
    growers.
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    I listen to each and every argument from the industry and, because
    I've been writing about water issues for years, I sit back and wait
    patiently for their predictable lines. They never disappoint.

    "New Zealand farmers feed the world." No, they don't. They sell bulk
    milk powder to the (mostly) lactose-intolerant Chinese. Further, they
    need to get used to the future of synthetic milk and plant-based meat.

    That's the future, and it's coming. Ready or not.

    "We'll go broke." No, you won't. And if you do, you weren't
    sustainable anyway. You took on too much debt, and/or you're doing
    something very wrong.

    "We are the backbone of the country." Tourism is the backbone now, so
    best adjust to the fact the two are incompatible. Clean, green, pure
    New Zealand? Pull the other one.

    "We've spent a billion dollars in environmental initiatives." Prove
    it. I've asked for a breakdown many times and I've yet to see this
    random figure ever quantified. Still waiting.

    "Urban waterways are more polluted than rural." Yes, they are polluted
    but, considering urban waterways make up less than 1 per cent of all
    waterways, it's an oft repeated bit of essentially fake news. Stop
    insulting our intelligence.

    "We're already paying for water." All the money goes to irrigation
    companies. None of the money you pay is for the actual water.

    Most New Zealanders have cottoned on to the fact that irrigation is
    about enabling the further intensification of cows and, with it, the intensification of their pollution. It's somewhat ironic then that
    National's $100m Freshwater Fund recently announced its highest payout
    will be made to - wait for it - an irrigation project.

    I must quote economist Peter Fraser here. "The Government has just
    given $7m of taxpayers' money, earmarked for cleaning up waterways, to
    the Waimea irrigation scheme that supplies water at 60 cents per cubic
    metre, which is over four times the national average price for
    irrigated water, meaning no agricultural use bar hydroponic marijuana
    can afford to buy it."

    You'd have to be high to think that a 1 to 2 cent royalty is the end
    of farming as we know it. Either that, or you simply don't care about
    the future of our waterways. Which is it?

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, August 17, 2017 22:24:23
    On 17/08/2017 9:16 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    Sad that again our current government just doesn't get it - and they
    and their supporters are being dishonest:.
    <waffle snipped>

    So why didn't the last Labour government address this issue instead of
    wasting taxpayer funds on support the breeders projects and clapped out
    train sets the taxpayers will be still paying for next century at least?!

    Pooh

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