• Re: Nat-spin being found out.

    From Pooh@3:770/3 to Tony on Wednesday, August 09, 2017 22:51:36
    On 8/08/2017 8:44 a.m., Tony wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 17:02:59 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 22:15:43 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    When it gets to the stage that the news media no longer trust the >>>>>> government; or when government spin gets too outrageous (often through >>>>>> changing definitions that leave whole group so f people out of
    "problem" statistics, it gets investigated - just think about how
    hospital waiting lists were initially reduced - by stopping counting >>>>>> people who could not get tests or treatment as being on a waiting
    list!:
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/election/2017/08/unemployment-bad-news-nz-it-s-much-worse-than-you-think.html

    The moral indignation of the right has been boosted by other Nat-spin >>>>>> on another issue recently, but again the furore did have the benefit >>>>>> of causing some to look a little deeper than the current government >>>>>> would like:
    http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-greed-vs-need

    We need a government that addresses need, not greed!

    and finally someting to think about:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuNPiC-w2Uc
    Once more a Labour devotee fails to understand the imperatives.
    You continue to berate the government but are preciously short of what a >>>>> Labour
    government would actually do - Rich you have always been so, and it is the
    downfall of the Labour party this past 8 or more years.
    Fortunately for Labour the new leader actually does understand that, having
    done more for policy in a week that previous leaders did in years. Too >>>>> little
    too late maybe but she shows signs of understanding politics infinitely >>>>> better
    than you do. I am beginning to see a possible future for Labour in time but
    the
    damage done by the negativity of labour and their supporters will not be >>>>> easily
    fixed.
    The only effective way to oppose is to say what you would do instead of >>>>> merely
    saying what the incumbent should not do - no policies is bad politics. >>>>> Tony
    Having policies is what Labour does - see
    http://www.labour.org.nz/announced_policies
    with more being announced today re transport in Auckland.
    Having policies and making sure they are advised to the public and are
    understood is a different matter.
    Labour have not since Helen Clark resigned made their policies clear to the >>> country, preferring to fire as many leaders as possible as fast as possible
    -
    it must be a record.

    Contrast that with policies ofrom National if you can.

    The following articles may also interest you - it seems Phil Twyford
    did better with transport construction people than Steven Joyce:
    https://thespinoff.co.nz/auckland/05-08-2017/five-signs-the-tide-is-turning-on-housing-and-transport/

    and frustration with National's inability to listen to any transport
    solutions other than another marginal road come through here:
    https://thespinoff.co.nz/auckland/05-08-2017/why-wont-national-fund-the-most-obvious-transport-project-for-auckland/
    with Labour announcing light rail to the airport as a policy today.

    Labour have promised to increase funding to health - contrast that to
    this:
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/336499/southern-dhb-in-a-slow-motion-train-crash
    where Colman insists that sacking the Board has worked because the
    deficit has been halved!

    For most of the policies already announced by Labour there are no
    National party equivalent policies . .
    Feel free to live with your delusions, you have made it a lifetime habit so >>> far.

    Tony
    Another fact-free post from the rising troll . . .

    Think of Kiwibuild - well known, well thought through - all National
    can think of doing is further subsidising developers who have sat on
    land . . .
    You are very fond of calling people trolls when all they are doing is disagreeing with you. A bullying tactic reminiscent of Trump!
    Tony


    and Helen Clark ;)

    Pooh

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