On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 15:30:26 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netan
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 01:37:39 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:08:52 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>> dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 18:51:26 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>>> dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 16:59:02 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>>>>> dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 23:43:55 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 08:09:25 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 8/4/2017 7:48 PM, JohnO wrote:You may be right, geroge - two levels of treeatment can indeed be
The David Garrett case makes an interesting comparison. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it's ok when a brown female lefty does it.John Banks got booted because of fake news and lies from the dot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> con
and
wife.
The thing that she (and her 'mates') don't realise is that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> general
public is a mass that doesn't like the two levels of justice that
the
left depend upon.
This will become evident when the ballot boxes open. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Such blinkered arrogance from you Tony - representing the worst of<snipped, off topic and deliberately diverting the discussion - as usual> >>>>><deleted nonsense that is entirely off topic.>I am not talking about them you dolt, I am talking about one of the >>>>>>>> co-leadersI have no idea whether that fatuous accusation is correct or not! >>>>>>>>>> irrelevant off topic shit deleted.issue.Infantile nonsense.
Look for example at this article:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/helensville/news/article.cfm?l_id=400&objectid=10008084
Three years of being registered to vote using an address that the >>>>>>>>>>>>> voter had never lived at!
That's more recent than the Metiria Turei case, and quite possible
for
a longer period - and by a person who was at the time a Member of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Parliament!
But the worst aspect if this is that it was condoned by many of the
very people that supported him then and are government MPs now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Perhaps they should clean up their own before attacking others for
lesser offences.
Regardless of what others have done (they need to be held to account)
she
has
admitted to illegal activity. End of story. She should have resigned!
Tony
So you think Bill English and John Key need to be held to account for
electoral fraud
Tony
So when you said "Regardless of what others have done (they need to be
held to account) she has admitted to illegal activity.", you didn't >>>>>>>>> really mean that others should be held to account. Both Key and >>>>>>>>> English admitted to being registered to vote at an address that they >>>>>>>>> were not living at - and in Key's case he never lived there later >>>>>>>>> either. Do you now think they do not need to be held to account? >>>>>>>> Read this with care -
of the Greens.
The two you mention did not commit benefit fraud - she did! Not even >>>>>>>> close
to
a
similar situation!
I can recommend a remedial English teacher for you.
Tony
This thread is about the Green co-leader. She stole from you and I and you
are
trying to defend her. Shame on you, She should have resigned.
That is all this thread is about you pitiable man.
<snipped, off topic and deliberately diverting the discussion - as usual> >>>> https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95542553/two-green-mps-threaten-to-quit-over-metiria-turei
<snipped, off topic and deliberately diverting the discussion - as usual> >>>Read and weep - two honest people show you up for what you really are, a >>>> lying
fraud!
Debate is healthy, you do not debate, you simply lie!
She should have resigned. Period!
Tony
Tony
National Party authoritariansm, lack of empathy, inability to accept different points of view, deliberate deception and unwillingness to
listen. Time both you and National went . . .
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 01:37:39 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:They are entitled to their opinion - they seem to have missed the
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:08:52 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot nethttps://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95542553/two-green-mps-threaten-to-quit-over-metiria-turei
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 18:51:26 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>> dot nz> wrote:<deleted nonsense that is entirely off topic.>
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 16:59:02 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>>> dot nz> wrote:Read this with care -
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 23:43:55 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>>>>> dot nz> wrote:I have no idea whether that fatuous accusation is correct or not! >>>>>>>> irrelevant off topic shit deleted.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 08:09:25 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:Infantile nonsense.
On 8/4/2017 7:48 PM, JohnO wrote:
The David Garrett case makes an interesting comparison. >>>>>>>>>>>>> But it's ok when a brown female lefty does it.John Banks got booted because of fake news and lies from the dot con
and
wife.
The thing that she (and her 'mates') don't realise is that the >>>>>>>>>>>> general
public is a mass that doesn't like the two levels of justice that the
left depend upon.
This will become evident when the ballot boxes open.
You may be right, geroge - two levels of treeatment can indeed be an
issue.
Look for example at this article:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/helensville/news/article.cfm?l_id=400&objectid=10008084
Three years of being registered to vote using an address that the >>>>>>>>>>> voter had never lived at!
That's more recent than the Metiria Turei case, and quite possible for
a longer period - and by a person who was at the time a Member of >>>>>>>>>>> Parliament!
But the worst aspect if this is that it was condoned by many of the >>>>>>>>>>> very people that supported him then and are government MPs now. >>>>>>>>>>>
Perhaps they should clean up their own before attacking others for >>>>>>>>>>> lesser offences.
Regardless of what others have done (they need to be held to account)
she
has
admitted to illegal activity. End of story. She should have resigned!
Tony
So you think Bill English and John Key need to be held to account for >>>>>>>>> electoral fraud
Tony
So when you said "Regardless of what others have done (they need to be >>>>>>> held to account) she has admitted to illegal activity.", you didn't >>>>>>> really mean that others should be held to account. Both Key and
English admitted to being registered to vote at an address that they >>>>>>> were not living at - and in Key's case he never lived there later >>>>>>> either. Do you now think they do not need to be held to account?
I am not talking about them you dolt, I am talking about one of the >>>>>> co-leaders
of the Greens.
The two you mention did not commit benefit fraud - she did! Not even close
to
a
similar situation!
I can recommend a remedial English teacher for you.
Tony
This thread is about the Green co-leader. She stole from you and I and you >>>> are
trying to defend her. Shame on you, She should have resigned.
That is all this thread is about you pitiable man.
Tony
O course - material that shows you up needs to be deleted - nhext you
will be claiming you are doing it because you are on dial-up!
Of course it is not - you raised the issue of others being held to
account. Since Bill English did the same, you cannot abide your own
words being taken seriously - so how should he be held to account -
the same way as the Green Co-Leader? If not, why not, Tony?
Read and weep - two honest people show you up for what you really are, a lying
fraud!
reality that no-one condones lying to the government; except perhaps
when it is National Ministers (specifically John Key and Bill English
with electoral fraud and Bill English with claiming a benefit he was
not entitled to).
Being honest about a past wrong is somthing beyond the understanding
of the far-right and the smug nat-supporters lacking any empathy for
the faults of government systems.
Not everyone sees things the same way of course. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11899875
Debate is healthy, you do not debate, you simply lie!
She should have resigned. Period!
Tony
On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 09:12:31 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:mild-mannered Tony.
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 15:30:26 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Such blinkered arrogance from you Tony - representing the worst of
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 01:37:39 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net<snipped, off topic and deliberately diverting the discussion - as usual> >>>>>>
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:08:52 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>> dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 18:51:26 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>>>> dot nz> wrote:<deleted nonsense that is entirely off topic.>
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 16:59:02 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netI am not talking about them you dolt, I am talking about one of the >>>>>>>>> co-leaders
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 23:43:55 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netI have no idea whether that fatuous accusation is correct or not! >>>>>>>>>>> irrelevant off topic shit deleted.
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 08:09:25 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:Infantile nonsense.
On 8/4/2017 7:48 PM, JohnO wrote:You may be right, geroge - two levels of treeatment can indeed be an
The David Garrett case makes an interesting comparison. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it's ok when a brown female lefty does it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John Banks got booted because of fake news and lies from the dot
con
and
wife.
The thing that she (and her 'mates') don't realise is that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> general
public is a mass that doesn't like the two levels of justice that
the
left depend upon.
This will become evident when the ballot boxes open. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
issue.
Look for example at this article:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/helensville/news/article.cfm?l_id=400&objectid=10008084
Three years of being registered to vote using an address that the
voter had never lived at!
That's more recent than the Metiria Turei case, and quite possible
for
a longer period - and by a person who was at the time a Member of
Parliament!
But the worst aspect if this is that it was condoned by many of the
very people that supported him then and are government MPs now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Perhaps they should clean up their own before attacking others for
lesser offences.
Regardless of what others have done (they need to be held to account)
she
has
admitted to illegal activity. End of story. She should have resigned!
Tony
So you think Bill English and John Key need to be held to account for
electoral fraud
Tony
So when you said "Regardless of what others have done (they need to be
held to account) she has admitted to illegal activity.", you didn't >>>>>>>>>> really mean that others should be held to account. Both Key and >>>>>>>>>> English admitted to being registered to vote at an address that they >>>>>>>>>> were not living at - and in Key's case he never lived there later >>>>>>>>>> either. Do you now think they do not need to be held to account? >>>>>>>>> Read this with care -
of the Greens.
The two you mention did not commit benefit fraud - she did! Not even >>>>>>>>> close
to
a
similar situation!
I can recommend a remedial English teacher for you.
Tony
This thread is about the Green co-leader. She stole from you and I and you
are
trying to defend her. Shame on you, She should have resigned.
That is all this thread is about you pitiable man.
<snipped, off topic and deliberately diverting the discussion - as usual> >>>>> https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95542553/two-green-mps-threaten-to-quit-over-metiria-turei
<snipped, off topic and deliberately diverting the discussion - as usual> >>>>Read and weep - two honest people show you up for what you really are, a >>>>> lying
fraud!
Debate is healthy, you do not debate, you simply lie!
She should have resigned. Period!
Tony
Tony
National Party authoritariansm, lack of empathy, inability to accept
different points of view, deliberate deception and unwillingness to
listen. Time both you and National went . . .
Spooky, you'd swear Dickbot was talking about himself rather than
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 15:46:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netan
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 01:37:39 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:08:52 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>> dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 18:51:26 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>>> dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 16:59:02 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>>>>> dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 23:43:55 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 08:09:25 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 8/4/2017 7:48 PM, JohnO wrote:You may be right, geroge - two levels of treeatment can indeed be
The David Garrett case makes an interesting comparison. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it's ok when a brown female lefty does it.John Banks got booted because of fake news and lies from the dot >>>>>>>>>>>>>> con
and
wife.
The thing that she (and her 'mates') don't realise is that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> general
public is a mass that doesn't like the two levels of justice that
the
left depend upon.
This will become evident when the ballot boxes open. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
What defence of theft? I am asking you how you think Bill EnglishYou defend theft then? There can only be one reason for that!<deleted nonsense that is entirely off topic.>I am not talking about them you dolt, I am talking about one of the >>>>>>>> co-leadersI have no idea whether that fatuous accusation is correct or not! >>>>>>>>>> irrelevant off topic shit deleted.issue.Infantile nonsense.
Look for example at this article:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/helensville/news/article.cfm?l_id=400&objectid=10008084
Three years of being registered to vote using an address that the >>>>>>>>>>>>> voter had never lived at!
That's more recent than the Metiria Turei case, and quite possible
for
a longer period - and by a person who was at the time a Member of >>>>>>>>>>>>> Parliament!
But the worst aspect if this is that it was condoned by many of the
very people that supported him then and are government MPs now. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
Perhaps they should clean up their own before attacking others for
lesser offences.
Regardless of what others have done (they need to be held to account)
she
has
admitted to illegal activity. End of story. She should have resigned!
Tony
So you think Bill English and John Key need to be held to account for
electoral fraud
Tony
So when you said "Regardless of what others have done (they need to be
held to account) she has admitted to illegal activity.", you didn't >>>>>>>>> really mean that others should be held to account. Both Key and >>>>>>>>> English admitted to being registered to vote at an address that they >>>>>>>>> were not living at - and in Key's case he never lived there later >>>>>>>>> either. Do you now think they do not need to be held to account? >>>>>>>> Read this with care -
of the Greens.
The two you mention did not commit benefit fraud - she did! Not even >>>>>>>> close
to
a
similar situation!
I can recommend a remedial English teacher for you.
Tony
This thread is about the Green co-leader. She stole from you and I and you
are
trying to defend her. Shame on you, She should have resigned.
That is all this thread is about you pitiable man.
Tony
O course - material that shows you up needs to be deleted - nhext you >>>>> will be claiming you are doing it because you are on dial-up!
Of course it is not - you raised the issue of others being held to
account. Since Bill English did the same, you cannot abide your own
words being taken seriously - so how should he be held to account -
the same way as the Green Co-Leader? If not, why not, Tony?
should be held to account? His rongly claimed befit gave far more than Turei's, and was much more recent - and while he wwas an MP. Did you
mean your statement that others should be held to account, or are you
now saying that there is one rule for National MPs and another for
everyone else?
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/95542553/two-green-mps-threaten-to-quit-over-metiria-turei
Read and weep - two honest people show you up for what you really are, a >>>> lying
fraud!
Debate is healthy, you do not debate, you simply lie!
She should have resigned. Period!
Tony
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 19:49:38 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>net
wrote:
On Tuesday, 8 August 2017 14:40:18 UTC+12, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 1:59:50 PM UTC+12, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, August 8, 2017 at 10:58:50 AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 15:46:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>> dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 01:37:39 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>>> dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 22:08:52 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>>>>> dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 18:51:26 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 06 Aug 2017 16:59:02 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot
dotdot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 05 Aug 2017 23:43:55 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 5 Aug 2017 08:09:25 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 8/4/2017 7:48 PM, JohnO wrote:
The David Garrett case makes an interesting comparison. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But it's ok when a brown female lefty does it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>John Banks got booted because of fake news and lies from the
thatcon
and
wife.
The thing that she (and her 'mates') don't realise is that the
general
public is a mass that doesn't like the two levels of justice
thetheYou may be right, geroge - two levels of treeatment can indeed be an
left depend upon.
This will become evident when the ballot boxes open. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
issue.
Look for example at this article:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/helensville/news/article.cfm?l_id=400&objectid=10008084
Three years of being registered to vote using an address that
for a moment, in terms of principles and ethics (your in-common drivers), the difference between Turei and English is that the one was a case of a need-driven defrauding by aWhat defence of theft? I am asking you how you think Bill EnglishYou defend theft then? There can only be one reason for that!<deleted nonsense that is entirely off topic.>I am not talking about them you dolt, I am talking about one of theI have no idea whether that fatuous accusation is correct or not!voter had never lived at!Infantile nonsense.
That's more recent than the Metiria Turei case, and quite possible
for
a longer period - and by a person who was at the time a Member of
Parliament!
But the worst aspect if this is that it was condoned by many of the
very people that supported him then and are government MPs now.
Perhaps they should clean up their own before attacking others for
lesser offences.
Regardless of what others have done (they need to be held to account)
she
has
admitted to illegal activity. End of story. She should have resigned!
Tony
So you think Bill English and John Key need to be held to account for
electoral fraud
irrelevant off topic shit deleted.
Tony
So when you said "Regardless of what others have done (they need to be
held to account) she has admitted to illegal activity.", you didn't
really mean that others should be held to account. Both Key and >>>>>>>>>>>>> English admitted to being registered to vote at an address that they
were not living at - and in Key's case he never lived there later >>>>>>>>>>>>> either. Do you now think they do not need to be held to account? >>>>>>>>>>>> Read this with care -
co-leaders
of the Greens.
The two you mention did not commit benefit fraud - she did! Not even
close
to
a
similar situation!
I can recommend a remedial English teacher for you.
Tony
This thread is about the Green co-leader. She stole from you and I and you
are
trying to defend her. Shame on you, She should have resigned. >>>>>>>>>> That is all this thread is about you pitiable man.
Tony
O course - material that shows you up needs to be deleted - nhext you >>>>>>>>> will be claiming you are doing it because you are on dial-up! >>>>>>>>>
Of course it is not - you raised the issue of others being held to >>>>>>>>> account. Since Bill English did the same, you cannot abide your own >>>>>>>>> words being taken seriously - so how should he be held to account - >>>>>>>>> the same way as the Green Co-Leader? If not, why not, Tony?
should be held to account? His rongly claimed befit gave far more than >>>>> Turei's, and was much more recent - and while he wwas an MP.
Perhaps you and Tony might consider that, setting aside the dry legalities
entrusted with the stewardship of the nation's finances - even worse, his grasping and cynically organised greed occurring at precisely the time he was urging all New Zealanders to tighten their belts.
...the other was nothing but unbridled greed on the part of an avaricious high-ranking charlatan. This rank piece of work was at the time not only living infinitely higher off his own state-funded hog than Turei, but was, of all people, also
- now our prime minster - has contributed to and, yes, enhanced New Zealand's reputation as the world's least, or near-least, corrupt nation?
Just a parting thought: since our world rankings in any old parameter you care to name seem to matter so inordinately to some, in the case of English, perhaps someone out there would now kindly show how the behaviour of this ineffably shameless spiv
simply hasn't the qualities that effective, credible political representation demands.)
(If it's of any small comfort to you both, know that come September I shall be voting for neither of these parasites; the one simply because the decadence he espouses and represents disgusts me, the other because, although she's fessed up, she
And now, as if right on cue, this:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11900113
<The guy completely and utterly misses the point.
It's not about what she did decades ago. It's about her perception of it *now*.
She says that it is wrong but that the system should not make it such
a difficult decision for so many people - do you disagree with that?
On the other hand, there is no such "compensating" rationale for the
greed related incident referred to by jmsc - but "privilege" is
supposed to deliver advantages - "right", JohnO?
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