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  • Re: Police doing their job

    From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, July 07, 2017 18:14:25
    On 7/8/2017 4:35 PM, Sam wrote:
    Yes that is right. Our cops are terrific, of course there are some bad
    ones but they don't last.

    Nope.
    Once they're promoted to the top job the next step is retirement..
    The police are like any-one else, goo
  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, July 08, 2017 10:41:15
    On 7/8/2017 4:35 PM, Sam wrote:
    Yes that is right. Our cops are terrific, of course there are some bad
    on
  • From Sam@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, July 08, 2017 16:35:12
    On 7/8/2017 4:35 PM, Sam wrote:
    Yes that is right. Our cops are terrific, of course there are so
  • From george152@3:770/3 to Sam on Sunday, July 09, 2017 08:43:23
    On 7/8/2017 4:35 PM, Sam wrote:
    Yes that is right. Our cops are terrific, of course there are some bad
    ones but they don't last.

    Nope.
    Once they're promoted to the top job the next step is retirement..
    The police are like any-one else, good and bad..
    Its just they know where the bodies are

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Sunday, July 09, 2017 11:08:02
    The NZ economy is generating 11,410 jobs a month (h/t Farrar).

    http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/income-and-work/employment_and_unemployment/LabourMarketStatistics_HOTPMar17qtr.aspx

    And it's not just immigration either. Working age population growth +2.6%, employment more than double at +5.7%.
  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Saturday, July 08, 2017 17:59:31
    The NZ economy is generating 11,410 jobs a month (h/t Farrar).

    http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/income-and-work/employment_and_unemployment/LabourMarketStatistics_HOTPMar17qtr.aspx

    And it's not just immigration either. Working age population growth +2.6%, employment more than double at +5.7%.
  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Sunday, July 09, 2017 10:36:17
    The NZ economy is generating 11,410 jobs a month (h/t Farrar).

    http://www.stats.govt.nz/browse_for_stats/income-and-work/employment_and_unemployment/LabourMarketStatistics_HOTPMar17qtr.aspx

    And it's not just immigration either. Working age population growth +2.6%, employment more than double at +5.7%.
  • From Tony @3:770/3 to Crash on Sunday, July 09, 2017 23:18:09
    Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
    On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 01:31:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:47:42 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 17:59:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 07 Jul 2017 18:14:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>>>dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/police-to-investigate-board-member-over-todd-barclay-saga.html
    Wow, who would have thought?
    One of the best police forces on the planet doing their job! >>>>>>>>Tony
    Perhaps they could also investigate to see if there ae any charges >>>>>>>that should be laid in relation to some of the incidents of those in >>>>>>>charge not doing their duty: >>>>>>>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11887477
    Maybe you should contact the authorities and see what they say! >>>>>>They won't be reading what you pontificate about in this or any other >>>>>>newsgroup.
    Tony
    You may be missing the point, Tony. We regard the USA as having >>>>>somewhat arbitrary or at least inconsistent laws and law enforcement, >>>>>but the comparison with Flint, Michigan is telling - there people who >>>>>should have prevented some of the problems have been charged - here >>>>>the person in charge of a disaster through incompetence is "rewarded" >>>>>by selection by a major political party as a candidate for election!

    Mike Williams is spot on about "Toxic" Yule, but not quite right about >>>>>the Tukituki - under the HB Regional Council it has been toxic for >>>>>years; the dam would just have made that permanent.
    No I miss nothing of value.
    You are suggesting that the police should be looking to see if charges >>>>should
    be laid.
    You may be right, but since we are unaware of any such investigation maybe >>>>you
    should call the police and see whether they are aware of a potential crime! >>>>Your other point (as a result of changing the subject with your last post) >>>>is
    really quite silly.
    Relating to other jurisdictions is pointless because our laws are very >>>>different and the police can only operate under law, if you want them to >>>>operate otherwise then get the law changed - talk to your MP\!
    Bleating about it here is a waste of time.
    Tony

    Thank you for your concern that the police may not be aware of
    potential criminal actions, but I suspect that the article in a daily >>>newspaper is just as likely to reflect opinions held - either
    prevopus to reading the article or now that they have read it - by a >>>large number of others, including some closer to the police than I am.

    If you actually cared you would follow up. I know that I always follow up on >>things that I believe are important. So my advice is "put up or shut up"

    Tony you are being a bit direct with Rich here - but with Rich's
    posting history this is understandable.
    Crash, I have been uncharacteristically hard on Rich on occasion for a long time.
    There have been times when I regret that but mostly I believe he brings it on himself.
    I prefer intelligent, honest debate but that is not his style.
    The only bleating I see on nz.general is from those trying to shut
    down conversation - I expect there to be more such sentiments as the >>>election draws nearer. Truth is of course always worth discussing, and >>>while intelligent people like yourself continue to clearly value such >>>discussion of course it is worth posting.
    That is non-sequitur and mildy amusing. If someone is trying to shut down >>conversation they would not be indulging in it. N'est ce pas?
    The election has little to do with conversation, but a lot to do with >>rhetoric!

    I would be a bit more direct - Rich's posting motivation has little to
    do with general interest and everything to do with anti-National
    rhetoric. His byline is 'this government has to go'. Unfortunately
    he ignores the issue of a credible alternative.
    I sincerely wish we had a strong and principled opposition - I don't see it anywhere just now, but the posturing is interesting if not edifying.


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    Tony

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, July 13, 2017 09:30:18
    On 9/07/2017 10:36 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 07 Jul 2017 18:14:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/police-to-investigate-board-member-over-todd-barclay-saga.html
    Wow, who would have thought?
    One of the best police forces on the planet doing their job!
    Tony
    Perhaps they could also investigate to see if there ae any charges
    that should be laid in relation to some of the incidents of those in
    charge not doing their duty: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11887477

    Or investigate Labours breach of electoral, immigration and employment
    law :)

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, July 13, 2017 09:34:26
    On 9/07/2017 4:34 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 22:47:42 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 08 Jul 2017 17:59:31 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Fri, 07 Jul 2017 18:14:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>> dot nz> wrote:

    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/07/police-to-investigate-board-member-over-todd-barclay-saga.html
    Wow, who would have thought?
    One of the best police forces on the planet doing their job!
    Tony
    Perhaps they could also investigate to see if there ae any charges
    that should be laid in relation to some of the incidents of those in >>>>> charge not doing their duty:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11887477
    Maybe you should contact the authorities and see what they say!
    They won't be reading what you pontificate about in this or any other
    newsgroup.
    Tony
    You may be missing the point, Tony. We regard the USA as having
    somewhat arbitrary or at least inconsistent laws and law enforcement,
    but the comparison with Flint, Michigan is telling - there people who
    should have prevented some of the problems have been charged - here
    the person in charge of a disaster through incompetence is "rewarded"
    by selection by a major political party as a candidate for election!

    Mike Williams is spot on about "Toxic" Yule, but not quite right about
    the Tukituki - under the HB Regional Council it has been toxic for
    years; the dam would just have made that permanent.
    No I miss nothing of value.
    You are suggesting that the police should be looking to see if charges should
    be laid.
    You may be right, but since we are unaware of any such investigation maybe you
    should call the police and see whether they are aware of a potential crime! >> Your other point (as a result of changing the subject with your last post) is
    really quite silly.
    Relating to other jurisdictions is pointless because our laws are very
    different and the police can only operate under law, if you want them to
    operate otherwise then get the law changed - talk to your MP\!
    Bleating about it here is a waste of time.
    Tony

    <another Rich drug induced delussion snipped>

    The only bleating I see on nz.general is from those trying to shut
    down conversation - I expect there to be more such sentiments as the
    election draws nearer. Truth is of course always worth discussing, and
    while intelligent people like yourself continue to clearly value such discussion of course it is worth posting.

    No Rich. The only bleating and killing of threads are yours. Truth is
    something your incapable of comprehending or having an intelligent
    discussion about.

    Pooh

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