• Plastic Bags

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 29, 2017 19:49:40
    There is a growing initiative in Wellington to encourage people to use
    other than the plastic supermarket bags - "Boomerang Bags"- they had a
    launch today at Zealandia.

    Apparently the issue of plastic bags was raised at a National Party
    Conference, and one Scott Simpson (yeah I've never heard of him
    either) was actually booed from the floor when he said that they
    weren't able to introduce charging for bags from supermarkets, so we
    can probably expect some initiative - fractionally different from
    proposals put forward by the Greens and Labour for forms sake).

    I doubt that the supermarkets will mind - they may even have the
    incentive to move to strong plastic bags as has happened overseas -
    one of the supermarkets in England or Wales was offering "lifetime"
    bags - bring back one that had broken and they would replace it.
    Effectively they sold them at just above cost and they became
    advertising for the chain - a bit like bags from Harrods etc.

    As ever, National needs to be dragged kicking and screaming to do
    anything to clean up the environment even when it wil actually cost
    them nothing!

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 29, 2017 13:09:01
    On Thursday, 29 June 2017 19:49:47 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    There is a growing initiative in Wellington to encourage people to use
    other than the plastic supermarket bags - "Boomerang Bags"- they had a
    launch today at Zealandia.

    Apparently the issue of plastic bags was raised at a National Party Conference, and one Scott Simpson (yeah I've never heard of him
    either)

    An admission that you are ignorant.

    was actually booed from the floor when he said that they
    weren't able to introduce charging for bags from supermarkets, so we
    can probably expect some initiative - fractionally different from
    proposals put forward by the Greens and Labour for forms sake).

    People don't need nanny state charging them another tax, this time on plastic bags. Tax tax tax. It's all you lefties can come up with to resolve any problem.


    I doubt that the supermarkets will mind - they may even have the
    incentive to move to strong plastic bags as has happened overseas -
    one of the supermarkets in England or Wales was offering "lifetime"
    bags - bring back one that had broken and they would replace it.
    Effectively they sold them at just above cost and they became
    advertising for the chain - a bit like bags from Harrods etc.

    So why don't they do it themselves then?


    As ever, National needs to be dragged kicking and screaming to do
    anything to clean up the environment even when it wil actually cost
    them nothing!

    What did Labour and the Greens do about plastic bags in their 3 terms? Nothing.

    'Strong' bags won't last long though - the handles still break from carrying heavy milk bottles etc in them. Also, these bags will get dirty and need to be kept clean enough for carrying food. People have got better things to do than cleaning supermarket
    bags for reuse. But when the 'strong' bags end up in landfills or the sea they will take even longer to break down than the current bags.

    The best answer would be for some bright spark to come up with a decent, economical biodegradable bag. Much better than just bleating 'tax' at anything you don't like.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to JohnO on Friday, June 30, 2017 08:43:53
    On 6/30/2017 8:09 AM, JohnO wrote:

    What did Labour and the Greens do about plastic bags in their 3 terms?
    Nothing.

    'Strong' bags won't last long though - the handles still break from carrying
    heavy milk bottles etc in them. Also, these bags will get dirty and need to be kept clean enough for carrying food. People have got better things to do than cleaning
    supermarket bags for reuse. But when the 'strong' bags end up in landfills or the sea they will take even longer to break down than the current bags.

    The best answer would be for some bright spark to come up with a decent,
    economical biodegradable bag. Much better than just bleating 'tax' at anything you don't like.


    Note the desperation and the odd choices of subjects liebor adherents
    are coming up with this close to the election.
    And their pet media is desperate to get the audiences attention away
    from the slave labourers.
    As for groceries go to PaknSave, take the trundler of groceries to your
    car and unload into the box/es in your boot.
    No plastic bags needed

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to george on Thursday, June 29, 2017 15:12:24
    On Friday, 30 June 2017 08:43:48 UTC+12, george wrote:
    On 6/30/2017 8:09 AM, JohnO wrote:

    What did Labour and the Greens do about plastic bags in their 3 terms?
    Nothing.

    'Strong' bags won't last long though - the handles still break from
    carrying heavy milk bottles etc in them. Also, these bags will get dirty and need to be kept clean enough for carrying food. People have got better things to do than cleaning
    supermarket bags for reuse. But when the 'strong' bags end up in landfills or the sea they will take even longer to break down than the current bags.

    The best answer would be for some bright spark to come up with a decent,
    economical biodegradable bag. Much better than just bleating 'tax' at anything you don't like.


    Note the desperation and the odd choices of subjects liebor adherents
    are coming up with this close to the election.
    And their pet media is desperate to get the audiences attention away
    from the slave labourers.
    As for groceries go to PaknSave, take the trundler of groceries to your
    car and unload into the box/es in your boot.
    No plastic bags needed

    That's what we do. There's always some plastic bags for veges etc. They get reused as bin liners.

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