• Re: Trump - changing what conservatives think

    From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Tuesday, June 27, 2017 22:52:53
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    The Opinion Pages | OP-ED COLUMNIST

    The G.O.P. Rejects Conservatism

    David Brooks

    JUNE 27, 2017


    ASPEN, COLO. ‹ There is a structural flaw in modern capitalism.
    Tremendous
    income gains are going to those in the top 20 percent, but prospects
    are
    diminishing for those in the middle and working classes. This gigantic
    trend
    widens inequality, exacerbates social segmentation, fuels distrust and
    led
    to Donald Trump.

    Conservative intellectuals were slow to understanding the seriousness
    of
    this structural problem, but over the past few years they have begun
    to
    grapple with the consequences. Basically, many conservative
    intellectuals
    have come to terms with income redistribution.

    Conservative income redistribution doesnıt look like liberal
    redistribution.
    Conservatives tend to like their redistribution done at the local
    level, and
    they like to use market-friendly mechanisms, like child tax credits,
    mobility vouchers and wage subsidies. But the intent is the same: to
    give
    those who are struggling more security and opportunity.

    Conservative redistribution extends to health care. Over the past
    several
    years many plans have emerged from the various right-leaning thinking
    tanks
    that imagine consumer-driven health care that also has universal or
    near
    universal coverage.

    These plans, from places like the American Enterprise Institute, use
    tax
    credits or pre-funded health savings accounts or some other method to
    give
    middle- and working-class people coverage, while reducing regulations
    and
    improving incentives throughout the system.

    Republican politicians could have picked up one of these plans when
    they set
    out to repeal Obamacare. They could have created a better system that
    did
    not punish the poor. But there are two crucial differences between the >conservative policy johnnies and Republican politicians.


    First, conservative policy intellectuals tend to have accepted the
    fact that
    American society is coming apart and that measures need to be taken to
    assist the working class. Republican politicians show no awareness of
    this
    fact. Second, conservative writers and intellectuals have a vision for
    how
    they want American society to be in the 21st century. Republican
    politicians
    have a vision of how they want American government to be in the 21st
    century.

    Republican politicians believe that government should tax people less.
    The
    Senate bill would eliminate the 3.8 percent tax on investment income
    for
    those making over $250,000. Republican politicians believe that
    open-ended
    entitlements should be cut. The Senate health care plan would throw 15 >million people off Medicaid, according to the Congressional Budget
    Office.
    (This is the program that covers nearly 40 percent of Americaıs
    children.)

    Is there a vision of society underlying those choices? Not really.
    Most
    political parties define their vision of the role of government around
    their
    vision of the sort of country they would like to create. The current >Republican Party has iron, dogmatic rules about the role of
    government, but
    no vision about America.

    Because Republicans have no governing vision, they canıt really
    replace the
    Obama vision with some alternative. They just accept the basic
    structure of
    Obamacare and cut it back some.

    Because Republicans have no governing vision, they canıt argue for
    their
    plans. Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price came to the Aspen
    Ideas
    Festival to make the case for the G.O.P. approach. Itıs not that he
    had bad
    arguments; he had no arguments, no vision for the sort of health care
    system
    these bills would usher in. He filled his time by rising to a level of
    vapid
    generality that was utterly detached from the choices in the actual >legislation.

    Because Republicans have no national vision, they seem largely
    uninterested
    in the actual effects their legislation would have on the country at
    large.
    This Senate bill would be completely unworkable because anybody with
    half a
    brain would get insurance only when they got sick.


    Worse, this bill takes all of the devastating trends afflicting the
    middle
    and working classes ‹ all the instability, all the struggle and pain ‹
    and
    it makes them worse. As the C.B.O. indicated, the Senate plan would
    throw 22
    million people off the insurance roles. It would send them to private >insurance plans that they could not afford to buy. Under the Senate
    bill,
    deductibles for poor families would be more than half of their annual
    income. The plans are so incompetently and cruelly designed that as
    the
    C.B.O. put it, ³few low-income people would purchase any plan.²


    This is not a conservative vision of American society. Itıs a vision
    rendered cruel by its obliviousness. I have been trying to think about
    the
    underlying mentality that now governs the Republican political class.
    The
    best I can do is the atomistic mentality described by Alexis de
    Tocqueville
    long ago:

    ³They owe nothing to any man, they expect nothing from any man; they
    acquire
    the habit of always considering themselves as standing alone, and they
    are
    apt to imagine that their whole destiny is in their own hands. Thus
    not only
    does democracy make every man forget his ancestors, but it hides his >descendants and separates his contemporaries from him; it throws him
    back
    forever upon himself alone and threatens in the end to confine him
    entirely
    within the solitude of his own heart.²


    A version of this op-ed appears in print on June 27, 2017, on Page A23
    of
    the New York edition with the headline: The G.O.P. Rejects
    Conservatism.


    İ The New York Times Company 2017
    A fascinating opinion based on lots of wishful thinking. It mentions some regrettable Republican views and extrapolates them to a mad extent that simply does not exist.
    And you spout it as if it matters, I don't imagine you could be honest enough to mention that the Republican party is way to the right of any party in the country, even ACT. Thought not!
    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, June 28, 2017 15:27:30
    The Opinion Pages | OP-ED COLUMNIST

    The G.O.P. Rejects Conservatism

    David Brooks

    JUNE 27, 2017


    ASPEN, COLO. ‹ There is a structural flaw in modern capitalism.
    Tremendous
    income gains are going to those in the top 20 percent, but prospects
    are
    diminishing for those in the middle and working classes. This gigantic
    trend
    widens inequality, exacerbates social segmentation, fuels distrust and
    led
    to Donald Trump.

    Conservative intellectuals were slow to understanding the seriousness
    of
    this structural problem, but over the past few years they have begun
    to
    grapple with the consequences. Basically, many conservative
    intellectuals
    have come to terms with income redistribution.

    Conservative income redistribution doesnıt look like liberal
    redistribution.
    Conservatives tend to like their redistribution done at the local
    level, and
    they like to use market-friendly mechanisms, like child tax credits,
    mobility vouchers and wage subsidies. But the intent is the same: to
    give
    those who are struggling more security and opportunity.

    Conservative redistribution extends to health care. Over the past
    several
    years many plans have emerged from the various right-leaning thinking
    tanks
    that imagine consumer-driven health care that also has universal or
    near
    universal coverage.

    These plans, from places like the American Enterprise Institute, use
    tax
    credits or pre-funded health savings accounts or some other method to
    give
    middle- and working-class people coverage, while reducing regulations
    and
    improving incentives throughout the system.

    Republican politicians could have picked up one of these plans when
    they set
    out to repeal Obamacare. They could have created a better system that
    did
    not punish the poor. But there are two crucial differences between the conservative policy johnnies and Republican politicians.


    First, conservative policy intellectuals tend to have accepted the
    fact that
    American society is coming apart and that measures need to be taken to
    assist the working class. Republican politicians show no awareness of
    this
    fact. Second, conservative writers and intellectuals have a vision for
    how
    they want American society to be in the 21st century. Republican
    politicians
    have a vision of how they want American government to be in the 21st
    century.

    Republican politicians believe that government should tax people less.
    The
    Senate bill would eliminate the 3.8 percent tax on investment income
    for
    those making over $250,000. Republican politicians believe that
    open-ended
    entitlements should be cut. The Senate health care plan would throw 15
    million people off Medicaid, according to the Congressional Budget
    Office.
    (This is the program that covers nearly 40 percent of Americaıs
    children.)

    Is there a vision of society underlying those choices? Not really.
    Most
    political parties define their vision of the role of government around
    their
    vision of the sort of country they would like to create. The current
    Republican Party has iron, dogmatic rules about the role of
    government, but
    no vision about America.

    Because Republicans have no governing vision, they canıt really
    replace the
    Obama vision with some alternative. They just accept the basic
    structure of
    Obamacare and cut it back some.

    Because Republicans have no governing vision, they canıt argue for
    their
    plans. Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price came to the Aspen
    Ideas
    Festival to make the case for the G.O.P. approach. Itıs not that he
    had bad
    arguments; he had no arguments, no vision for the sort of health care
    system
    these bills would usher in. He filled his time by rising to a level of
    vapid
    generality that was utterly detached from the choices in the actual legislation.

    Because Republicans have no national vision, they seem largely
    uninterested
    in the actual effects their legislation would have on the country at
    large.
    This Senate bill would be completely unworkable because anybody with
    half a
    brain would get insurance only when they got sick.


    Worse, this bill takes all of the devastating trends afflicting the
    middle
    and working classes ‹ all the instability, all the struggle and pain ‹
    and
    it makes them worse. As the C.B.O. indicated, the Senate plan would
    throw 22
    million people off the insurance roles. It would send them to private
    insurance plans that they could not afford to buy. Under the Senate
    bill,
    deductibles for poor families would be more than half of their annual
    income. The plans are so incompetently and cruelly designed that as
    the
    C.B.O. put it, ³few low-income people would purchase any plan.²


    This is not a conservative vision of American society. Itıs a vision
    rendered cruel by its obliviousness. I have been trying to think about
    the
    underlying mentality that now governs the Republican political class.
    The
    best I can do is the atomistic mentality described by Alexis de
    Tocqueville
    long ago:

    ³They owe nothing to any man, they expect nothing from any man; they
    acquire
    the habit of always considering themselves as standing alone, and they
    are
    apt to imagine that their whole destiny is in their own hands. Thus
    not only
    does democracy make every man forget his ancestors, but it hides his descendants and separates his contemporaries from him; it throws him
    back
    forever upon himself alone and threatens in the end to confine him
    entirely
    within the solitude of his own heart.²


    A version of this op-ed appears in print on June 27, 2017, on Page A23
    of
    the New York edition with the headline: The G.O.P. Rejects
    Conservatism.


    İ The New York Times Company 2017

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