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  • Back to important issues - English gets something right!

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, June 23, 2017 08:39:40
    On Morning report this morning, I was peased to hear that Bill English
    wants to get to the real issues at the National Party Conference of
    jobs and salaries. Lets not quibble about whether salaries includes
    wages - this is a major turnaround for the National government who
    have previously denied any problem - after all if housing isn't a
    crisis then there are no crises in New Zealand ever!

    The new focus is of course welcome, but it was disappointing to then
    hear that there are no announcements expected at the conference -
    perhaps Bill has just identified the problem and needs to start
    listening to Labour and the GReens for a few ideas . . .

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 22, 2017 13:45:52
    On Friday, 23 June 2017 08:39:38 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Morning report this morning, I was peased to hear that Bill English
    wants to get to the real issues at the National Party Conference of
    jobs and salaries. Lets not quibble about whether salaries includes
    wages - this is a major turnaround for the National government who
    have previously denied any problem - after all if housing isn't a
    crisis then there are no crises in New Zealand ever!

    The new focus is of course welcome, but it was disappointing to then
    hear that there are no announcements expected at the conference -
    perhaps Bill has just identified the problem and needs to start
    listening to Labour and the GReens for a few ideas . . .

    Those poor foreign students Labour shoved into sweatshop hovels can only dream about wages and proper housing, Dickbot.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, June 23, 2017 09:03:27
    On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:45:52 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 23 June 2017 08:39:38 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Morning report this morning, I was peased to hear that Bill English
    wants to get to the real issues at the National Party Conference of
    jobs and salaries. Lets not quibble about whether salaries includes
    wages - this is a major turnaround for the National government who
    have previously denied any problem - after all if housing isn't a
    crisis then there are no crises in New Zealand ever!

    The new focus is of course welcome, but it was disappointing to then
    hear that there are no announcements expected at the conference -
    perhaps Bill has just identified the problem and needs to start
    listening to Labour and the GReens for a few ideas . . .

    Those poor foreign students Labour shoved into sweatshop hovels can only dream
    about wages and proper housing, Dickbot.

    So do you think National should not have allowd them in on working
    holiday visas, JohnO?

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 22, 2017 14:23:49
    On Friday, 23 June 2017 09:03:23 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:45:52 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 23 June 2017 08:39:38 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Morning report this morning, I was peased to hear that Bill English
    wants to get to the real issues at the National Party Conference of
    jobs and salaries. Lets not quibble about whether salaries includes
    wages - this is a major turnaround for the National government who
    have previously denied any problem - after all if housing isn't a
    crisis then there are no crises in New Zealand ever!

    The new focus is of course welcome, but it was disappointing to then
    hear that there are no announcements expected at the conference -
    perhaps Bill has just identified the problem and needs to start
    listening to Labour and the GReens for a few ideas . . .

    Those poor foreign students Labour shoved into sweatshop hovels can only
    dream about wages and proper housing, Dickbot.

    So do you think National should not have allowd them in on working
    holiday visas, JohnO?

    What the fuck are you dribbling about? "National" has nothing to do with it. They are a political party. It Immigration New Zealand that grants working visas, under government policy (not changed by the current governing party either).

    We still don't know if they are on working holiday visas, Dickbot. That's just a story you're shopping but even Andrew Kirton didn't know as of last night. Somehow you know better than Kirton, eh Dickbot? That or you are making it up. Which is it?

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Friday, June 23, 2017 23:49:54
    On 23/06/2017 8:39 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Morning report this morning, I was peased to hear that Bill English
    wants to get to the real issues at the National Party Conference of
    jobs and salaries. Lets not quibble about whether salaries includes
    wages - this is a major turnaround for the National government who
    have previously denied any problem - after all if housing isn't a
    crisis then there are no crises in New Zealand ever!

    The new focus is of course welcome, but it was disappointing to then
    hear that there are no announcements expected at the conference -
    perhaps Bill has just identified the problem and needs to start
    listening to Labour and the GReens for a few ideas . . .


    I'd be peased to see you debating in an intelligent manner Rich. But
    guess like your spelling and comprehension skills that'd be an
    impossibility:)

    Pooh

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  • From peterwn@3:770/3 to JohnO on Saturday, June 24, 2017 03:37:04
    On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 9:23:50 AM UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Friday, 23 June 2017 09:03:23 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 13:45:52 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, 23 June 2017 08:39:38 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Morning report this morning, I was peased to hear that Bill English >> wants to get to the real issues at the National Party Conference of
    jobs and salaries. Lets not quibble about whether salaries includes
    wages - this is a major turnaround for the National government who
    have previously denied any problem - after all if housing isn't a
    crisis then there are no crises in New Zealand ever!

    The new focus is of course welcome, but it was disappointing to then
    hear that there are no announcements expected at the conference -
    perhaps Bill has just identified the problem and needs to start
    listening to Labour and the GReens for a few ideas . . .

    Those poor foreign students Labour shoved into sweatshop hovels can only
    dream about wages and proper housing, Dickbot.

    So do you think National should not have allowd them in on working
    holiday visas, JohnO?

    What the fuck are you dribbling about? "National" has nothing to do with it.
    They are a political party. It Immigration New Zealand that grants working visas, under government policy (not changed by the current governing party either).

    We still don't know if they are on working holiday visas, Dickbot. That's
    just a story you're shopping but even Andrew Kirton didn't know as of last night. Somehow you know better than Kirton, eh Dickbot? That or you are making it up. Which is it?

    It is a fair bet they are on three month visitors permits. American students with return tickets visiting NZ during USA summer break would usually go through NZ Immigration like a dose of salts. A bulk application of 12 month work visas (they are not
    issued for three months) would have attracted attention.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to peterwn on Sunday, June 25, 2017 08:08:16
    On 6/24/2017 10:37 PM, peterwn wrote:

    It is a fair bet they are on three month visitors permits. American students
    with return tickets visiting NZ during USA summer break would usually go through NZ Immigration like a dose of salts. A bulk application of 12 month work visas (they are not
    issued for three months) would have attracted attention.


    I believe we can take it as read that liebor were doing this on the
    cheap hoping that they wouldn't attract attention.
    For the liebor leaders to say they know little or nothing of this is
    refuted by the published materials the US students responded to...
    A pity that our printed media has not responded to this as fulsomely as
    they did the 'bugging' of an office

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