• Re: Flat broke Labour shipping in overseas students to work as slave la

    From Mutlley@3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:03:53
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy like the left.

    I just hear in the news just now that Angry little Andrew won't front
    to the media and discuss it.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to JohnO on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 15:38:11
    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver workers'
    conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy like the left.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Mutlley on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 16:49:37
    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 11:03:54 UTC+12, Mutlley wrote:
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver
    workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy
    like the left.

    I just hear in the news just now that Angry little Andrew won't front
    to the media and discuss it.

    Angry Andy says it is "embarrassing" and "wrong"

    It's worse than that, Andy.

    Labour has exploited these foreign students, plain and simple, and it's nuclear
    grade hypocrisy to boot.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11880417

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:35:04
    On 6/22/2017 10:38 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver
    workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy
    like the left.


    And not a whisper of this scandal on the TV1 midday news.
    And they try to claim that they're not our own fake news...
    Busted

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  • From Mutlley@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:57:10
    george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 6/22/2017 10:38 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy like the left.


    And not a whisper of this scandal on the TV1 midday news.
    And they try to claim that they're not our own fake news...
    Busted

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    It's easy to see an election is coming with both TV news networks
    starting their usual Labor good, Nation bad news ..

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to george on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 17:51:44
    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 12:34:57 UTC+12, george wrote:
    On 6/22/2017 10:38 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver
    workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy
    like the left.


    And not a whisper of this scandal on the TV1 midday news.
    And they try to claim that they're not our own fake news...
    Busted

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    Harman (Realpolitik) broke it. NZHerald APN then picked it up, and eventually Stuff (Fairfax), Newshub and RNZ picked it up. One News still ignoring it and obsessing with the Barclay story.

    Nice bit of barefaced dishonesty by McCarten and Labour to claim that McCarten's campaign is politically independent of Labour. Who would believe a word these lying lefty shits say?

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Mutlley on Wednesday, June 21, 2017 20:42:00
    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 12:57:11 UTC+12, Mutlley wrote:
    george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 6/22/2017 10:38 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver
    workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does
    hypocrisy like the left.


    And not a whisper of this scandal on the TV1 midday news.
    And they try to claim that they're not our own fake news...
    Busted

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    It's easy to see an election is coming with both TV news networks
    starting their usual Labor good, Nation bad news ..

    I wonder if Dickbot is busy guarding the slaves?

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Mutlley on Thursday, June 22, 2017 17:04:48
    On 6/22/2017 12:57 PM, Mutlley wrote:


    It's easy to see an election is coming with both TV news networks
    starting their usual Labor good, Nation bad news ..

    Which is why they are becoming redundant.
    A slow and grinding death as blogs and other Internet sources prove more
    honest as to their biases.
    And the dead tree media fades into the history books

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  • From BR@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 22, 2017 17:37:38
    On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 20:42:00 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    I wonder if Dickbot is busy guarding the slaves?

    His superiors have imposed a cone of silence on him

    Bill.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, June 22, 2017 23:27:38
    On 22/06/2017 10:32 a.m., JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm

    Utterly scandalous. They are doing exactly what they campaign against:
    importing students, not paying them, and keeping them in substandard accommodation.

    "A Labour Party scheme to recruit 85 overseas students to campaign for the
    party during this year’s election has hit trouble.

    The students rebelled over their accommodation and their disappointment with
    what was supposed to be a high powered learning programme but which appears to be not much more than political campaign drudge work.

    Now party heavyweights have had to step in to rescue the programme and deal
    with the complaints from the students.

    The scheme, which required the students to work for free, was to involve
    lectures from Labour party heavyweights such as Helen Clark and Andrew Little.

    It is part of Matt McCarten’s “Campaign for Change” which he describes
    as a non-partisan campaign to get people engaged and involved.

    But how non-partisan is debatable.

    McCarten is Andrew Little’s former Chief of Staff and resigned two weeks
    ago from running Labour’s campaign office in Auckland.

    POLITIK has seen emails which show that the students have now held two
    meetings with party officials to complain about their accommodation on an Auckland marae and the work they were being asked to do.

    Last night Labour’s General Secretary Andrew Kirton confirmed that there
    had been issues with the scheme which had arisen over the past week.

    He said the scheme had been originated by Andrew Little’s former Chief of
    Staff, Matt McCarten, who now runs Labour’s campaign office in Auckland.

    “There were some issues with capacity, “he said.

    “He couldn’t really supervise them on a daily basis.”

    A dormitory at the marae

    A dormitory at the marae
    The heart of the row appears to be the living conditions under which the
    interns have been accommodated at Awataha Marae in Northcote.

    POLITIK has been sent photographs showing:

    Cramped dormitory alcoves
    A broken and unusable shower
    Bathroom cupboard doors hanging off their hinges
    Unfinished construction work with material piled beside mattresses
    The students met Labour party officials on Saturday to protest about their
    accommodation and were asked to sign non-disclosure agreements.

    The email received by POLITIK said: “Most were shocked at where they have
    been living and what they have been doing, but are afraid to make too big a fuss in case it is cancelled, and they get stuck in NZ for weeks until their return flights.

    Some students left after one day; others are resigned to see it through (they
    have no other option- can't afford another ticket to go back).”

    The interns were invited by Labour to help with its campaign.

    The emails continued: “They were told that they are broken down into teams-
    they will be either phone soliciting ( they've bought 30-ish Alcatel phones, and they sit in a room and call, from this marae, very disorganised, many of these people have
    been called already ) , door knocking in regions in Auckland, or approaching universities and "unions" to recruit votes ad more volunteers. They have one day of 'training' tomorrow. There is nothing else planned for these guys as far
    as I am aware.”

    Kirton says that Labour’s head office had been notified of these problems
    and had now stepped in.

    The interns would leave Auckland and be distributed across the country. They
    would be billeted with Labour supporters.

    “I’ve met with a lot of these volunteers, they are great young guys,”
    said Kirton.

    “So we are going to make sure that we get out and about a bit more and
    sort it out.”

    The website attracting the interns said the fellowship was modelled on
    similar programmes run by the Democratic Party in the USA and the British Labour Party.

    "Fellows will be instructed in the fundamentals of a successful campaign -
    from knocking on doors to recruiting volunteers to use the party's campaign software - but will progress quickly and ultimately may build and train their own teams and lead
    campaign activity across Auckland.

    The campaign Fellows serve an important leadership role and will report
    directly to the field organisers.

    “They will be tasked primarily with projects surrounding the recruitment
    and retention of volunteers and direct voter contact activity. “

    The programme is billed as an education opportunity for the interns which
    will give “the fellows a glance into what a career in politics would be like,
    as well as offering the fellows special access to senior MPs and important decision makers in the
    party.”

    Short lectures are promised from some top Labour Party names:

    Andrew Little
    Jacinda Ardern
    Helen Clark
    “Current ambassadors to NZ."
    “Senior party stakeholders and staff, including the President and Chief of
    Staff “
    Teleconferences with senior staff from US Democratic Party and UK Labour
    Party
    However, Kirton said there were now problems organising these talks because
    the volunteers were no longer in one place.

    The party might use webinars for the talks, he said.

    And the website explains that “although we are unable to compensate our
    fellows financially, the campaign fellowship will stand out on your CV and both
    organisers are happy to serve as a reference upon successful completion of the fellowship.”"


    Not surprised that Rich is avoiding this thread. Though it may be he's
    just being reprogrammed to see this as typical National spin.

    However surely even Rich can't see that this can be construed as Labour deliberately abusing Asians, students and the immigration laws. Not
    something that the rest of us find surprising. With the current calls
    from Labour that the National leader resign maybe Angry Andy should
    demonstrate how it's done. Though I guess he'll be much like Rich and
    bitch about his own faults that he sees in so many others.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Mutlley on Thursday, June 22, 2017 23:29:35
    On 22/06/2017 11:03 a.m., Mutlley wrote:
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy like the left.

    I just hear in the news just now that Angry little Andrew won't front
    to the media and discuss it.


    Funny how the left avoid discussing their own faults especially when
    they've been accusing others of them :)

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, June 22, 2017 23:34:11
    On 22/06/2017 12:51 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 12:34:57 UTC+12, george wrote:
    On 6/22/2017 10:38 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy
    like the left.


    And not a whisper of this scandal on the TV1 midday news.
    And they try to claim that they're not our own fake news...
    Busted

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    Harman (Realpolitik) broke it. NZHerald APN then picked it up, and eventually
    Stuff (Fairfax), Newshub and RNZ picked it up. One News still ignoring it and obsessing with the Barclay story.

    Nice bit of barefaced dishonesty by McCarten and Labour to claim that
    McCarten's campaign is politically independent of Labour. Who would believe a word these lying lefty shits say?

    Rich does. But then that'll be a side effect of his lack of comprehension.

    Pooh

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to All on Friday, June 23, 2017 08:17:26
    On 6/22/2017 5:37 PM, BR wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 20:42:00 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:


    I wonder if Dickbot is busy guarding the slaves?

    His superiors have imposed a cone of silence on him

    Bill.

    However last night I watched the different TV news outlets and am quite astonished to report that they (all three) -actually- mentioned the
    liebor slave market and as to who was involved and even the angry little
    man was able to procrastinate without let or hindrance.
    rich is going to have one of those days


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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, June 23, 2017 08:33:47
    On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy like the left.

    Student immigration? These are working holiday visas - issued by the National-led government!

    Are you saying that the immigration department got it wrong?

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 22, 2017 13:56:51
    On Friday, 23 June 2017 08:33:45 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver
    workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy
    like the left.

    Student immigration? These are working holiday visas - issued by the

    Cite. Go on, cite. As of yesterday Kirton was "still getting to the bottom" of the visa category. Do you know better or are you making shit up? Cite!

    National-led government!

    Are you saying that the immigration department got it wrong?

    Labour campaigning on reducing foreign students, while shipping in foreign students.

    Labour campaigning on improving housing standards while putting foreign students into hovels.

    Labour campaigning on increasing wages while exploiting foreign students by paying then *nothing*.

    Labour made promises to these students - access to and lectures by everyone from St Helen Clark on down. Labour lied to them.

    Labour are desperately trying to blame all this on McCarten and cry that it's nothing to do with them. But make no mistake - this is Labour's baby and no amount of bullshitting is convincing anyone otherwise.

    It goes on and on. Labour have shown themselves to be lying, exploiting hypocrites.

    Again.

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  • From HitAnyKey@3:770/3 to All on Friday, June 23, 2017 00:33:53
    On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 08:33:47 +1200, Rich80105 wrote:

    On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer- workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew- Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm? c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver >>workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to
    do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does
    hypocrisy like the left.

    Student immigration? These are working holiday visas - issued by the National-led government!

    Are you saying that the immigration department got it wrong?

    Of your many feeble-minded attempts in these columns to argue that black
    is white or vice versa, this one has to be the weakest.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to HitAnyKey on Friday, June 23, 2017 23:31:17
    On 23/06/2017 12:33 p.m., HitAnyKey wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 08:33:47 +1200, Rich80105 wrote:

    On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-
    workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew- Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?
    c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver
    workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to
    do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does
    hypocrisy like the left.

    Student immigration? These are working holiday visas - issued by the
    National-led government!

    Are you saying that the immigration department got it wrong?

    Of your many feeble-minded attempts in these columns to argue that black
    is white or vice versa, this one has to be the weakest.

    But that's Rich in his usual full troll persona. Try dumb distractions
    in the off chance we'll all laugh so much we'll forget he blindly
    supports Labour and has his usual lack of comprehension on just how far
    in the shit Labour are sinking themselves :)

    Pooh

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  • From BR@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, June 24, 2017 06:23:39
    On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 08:33:47 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: >>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy like the left.

    Student immigration? These are working holiday visas - issued by the >National-led government!

    Are you saying........

    Here's a saying:

    It is better to be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all
    doubt.


    Bill.

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  • From Crash@3:770/3 to buggeroff@spammer.com on Sunday, June 25, 2017 20:06:47
    On Sat, 24 Jun 2017 06:23:39 +1200, BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 08:33:47 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: >>>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy like the left.

    Student immigration? These are working holiday visas - issued by the >>National-led government!

    Are you saying........

    Here's a saying:

    It is better to be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all
    doubt.

    No disrespect intended BR but I believe the saying is:

    "It is better to remain silent and be thought to be a fool, than to
    open your mouth and remove all doubt."


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  • From peterwn@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, June 25, 2017 02:23:27
    On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 8:33:45 AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver
    workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does hypocrisy
    like the left.

    Student immigration? These are working holiday visas - issued by the National-led government!

    Are you saying that the immigration department got it wrong?

    AFAIK these students are on 3 month visitors permits - issued at the border for
    USA citizens generally without question. If they applied for 12 month (minimum period) work visas at about the same time, Immigration would have smelled a rat.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to peterwn on Sunday, June 25, 2017 13:15:24
    On Sunday, 25 June 2017 21:23:29 UTC+12, peterwn wrote:
    On Friday, June 23, 2017 at 8:33:45 AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 15:38:11 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, 22 June 2017 10:32:44 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    http://politik.co.nz/en/content/politics/1124/Labour-Party-volunteer-workers-rebel-over-living-conditions-Labour-party-Matt-McCarten-Andrew-Kirton.htm


    <snip>

    Also here: >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=11880417

    Yep - Labour promise to crack down on student immigration and improver
    workers' conditions, but here they are, shipping in foreign interns to do unpaid campaign work and putting them up in sweatshop conditions.

    You couldn't make this shit up. Nobody, and I mean *nobody*, does
    hypocrisy like the left.

    Student immigration? These are working holiday visas - issued by the National-led government!

    Are you saying that the immigration department got it wrong?

    AFAIK these students are on 3 month visitors permits - issued at the border
    for USA citizens generally without question. If they applied for 12 month (minimum period) work visas at about the same time, Immigration would have smelled a rat.

    Not only that, the work visas take a bit of time. When were the students first recruited?

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to peterwn on Monday, June 26, 2017 08:10:44
    On 6/25/2017 9:23 PM, peterwn wrote:


    AFAIK these students are on 3 month visitors permits - issued at the border
    for USA citizens generally without question. If they applied for 12 month (minimum period) work visas at about the same time, Immigration would have smelled a rat.


    The best bit is how our fake news is concentrating on attempts to score
    points for Liebor against National.
    And, I might add, failing dismally as the constant reference to slavery throughout blogs has not let up.
    A pity that the Speaker does not allow the Government to question the Opposition or cast aspersions upon their shoddy work

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