Oh dear - another cover-up! http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:And another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in tears because of heartless ghouls.
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die
needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into >the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties are >only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall).
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that >another 1% goes to the Nats.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:And another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in tears >because of heartless ghouls.
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die
needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into >>the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall).
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that >>another 1% goes to the Nats.
Tony
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 20:57:09 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>the dead miners' corpses.
wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die
needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into
I wasn't aware that Labour had even commented on this - do you have a
url?
are only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall).That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties
The point is it contradicts the reports the families were given back
in 2010.
Further news - the families are taking a court case.
Do you think the families have no right to know what really happened?
Do you support the cover-up?
another 1% goes to the Nats.I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die
needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties areonly talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall).
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that another 1% goes to the Nats.
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNo facts, just you and your horribly uncaring cronies who do not care how much you hurt the families of the families victims in the pursuit of your trivial political objectives!
dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:And another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in tears >>because of heartless ghouls.
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess >>>> the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might >>>> have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die >>>> needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something >>>> they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into >>>the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties >>>are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall).
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that >>>another 1% goes to the Nats.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct
information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO
has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
On Monday, 19 June 2017 17:00:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:the dead miners' corpses.
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 20:57:09 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die
needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into
I wasn't aware that Labour had even commented on this - do you have a
url?
For once in your life Dickbot, why not try google. Even you can use it if you try really hard.
The point is it contradicts the reports the families were given back
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties are only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall).
in 2010.
No it does not, no matter how much you want it to.
Further news - the families are taking a court case.
Do you think the families have no right to know what really happened?
Do you support the cover-up?
There is no cover up. Unless you believe in conspiracy theories.
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that another 1% goes to the Nats.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNo facts, just you and your horribly uncaring cronies who do not care how much >you hurt the families of the families victims in the pursuit of your trivial >political objectives!
dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:And another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in tears >>>because of heartless ghouls.
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess >>>>> the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might >>>>> have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never >>>>> came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die >>>>> needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to >>>>> die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all >>>>> up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something >>>>> they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance >>>>> is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which >>>>> isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into >>>>the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties >>>>are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall). >>>>
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that >>>>another 1% goes to the Nats.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct
information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO
has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
Disgusting!
Tony
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 02:00:11 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNo facts, just you and your horribly uncaring cronies who do not care how much
dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:And another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in tears >>>> because of heartless ghouls.
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess >>>>>> the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might >>>>>> have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never >>>>>> came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die >>>>>> needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to >>>>>> die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all >>>>>> up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something >>>>>> they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance >>>>>> is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which >>>>>> isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into
the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties
are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall). >>>>>
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that
another 1% goes to the Nats.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct
information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO
has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
you hurt the families of the families victims in the pursuit of your trivial >> political objectives!
Disgusting!
Tony
It wasn't Labour or the Greens that the Pike River families were upset
about when they took this case - which is now going to the Supreme
Court . . .
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/324677/court-of-appeal-dismisses-pike-families'-legal-bid
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:And another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in tears >> because of heartless ghouls.
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess >>>> the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might >>>> have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die >>>> needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something >>>> they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into >>> the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall). >>>
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that >>> another 1% goes to the Nats.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct
information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO
has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 20:57:09 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die
needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into the dead miners' corpses.
I wasn't aware that Labour had even commented on this - do you have a
url?
The point is it contradicts the reports the families were given back
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties are only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall).
in 2010.
Further news - the families are taking a court case.
Do you think the families have no right to know what really happened?
Do you support the cover-up?
Yet your glorious misleader little Andy has claimed he'd go up the drift
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that another 1% goes to the Nats.
On Monday, 19 June 2017 17:00:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:the dead miners' corpses.
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 20:57:09 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess >>>> the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might >>>> have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die >>>> needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something >>>> they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks into
try really hard.
I wasn't aware that Labour had even commented on this - do you have a
url?
For once in your life Dickbot, why not try google. Even you can use it if you
The point is it contradicts the reports the families were given back
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties are only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall).
in 2010.
No it does not, no matter how much you want it to.
Further news - the families are taking a court case.
Do you think the families have no right to know what really happened?
Do you support the cover-up?
There is no cover up. Unless you believe in conspiracy theories.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:lefties
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 02:00:11 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks >>>>>into
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess >>>>>> the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might >>>>>> have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never >>>>>> came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die >>>>>> needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to >>>>>> die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all >>>>>> up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something >>>>>> they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance >>>>>> is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want >>>>>> different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which >>>>>> isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. " >>>>>
the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot
thatare
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall). >>>>>
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy
tearsanother 1% goes to the Nats.And another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in
trivialNo facts, just you and your horribly uncaring cronies who do not care how >>muchbecause of heartless ghouls.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct >>>information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO >>>has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
you hurt the families of the families victims in the pursuit of your
justpolitical objectives!
Disgusting!
Tony
It wasn't Labour or the Greens that the Pike River families were upset >about when they took this case - which is now going to the Supreme
Court . . .
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/324677/court-of-appeal-dismisses-pike-families'-legal-bidDo you deliberately pretend to misunderstand what people write or are you
dumb?really
I didn't say it was Labour or the Greens, I was referring to you!
And the court case has nothing at all to do with entering the mine - you
are a dissembler
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 02:00:11 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netDo you deliberately pretend to misunderstand what people write or are you just dumb?
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNo facts, just you and your horribly uncaring cronies who do not care how >>much
dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:And another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in tears >>>>because of heartless ghouls.
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess >>>>>> the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might >>>>>> have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never >>>>>> came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die >>>>>> needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to >>>>>> die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all >>>>>> up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something >>>>>> they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance >>>>>> is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which >>>>>> isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks >>>>>into
the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot lefties >>>>>are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock fall). >>>>>
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy that >>>>>another 1% goes to the Nats.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct
information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO
has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
you hurt the families of the families victims in the pursuit of your trivial >>political objectives!
Disgusting!
Tony
It wasn't Labour or the Greens that the Pike River families were upset
about when they took this case - which is now going to the Supreme
Court . . .
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/324677/court-of-appeal-dismisses-pike-families'-legal-bid
On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 8:29:52 AM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.comwrote:
guessRich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 02:00:11 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to >>>>>> families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I
mightthe last thing the government would want is evidence that people
neverhave survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which
diecame. Then they might go from a government which merely let people
somethingneedlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to >>>>>> die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all >>>>>> up and forget about it - because actually looking might find
whichthey desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance >>>>>> is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust >>>>>> anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want >>>>>> different decisions to be made, we need a different government,
leftiesisn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. " >>>>>"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks >>>>>into
the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot
fall).are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock
that
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy
tearsanother 1% goes to the Nats.And another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in
trivialNo facts, just you and your horribly uncaring cronies who do not care how >>muchbecause of heartless ghouls.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct >>>information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO >>>has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
you hurt the families of the families victims in the pursuit of your
justpolitical objectives!
Disgusting!
Tony
It wasn't Labour or the Greens that the Pike River families were upset >about when they took this case - which is now going to the Supreme
Court . . .
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/324677/court-of-appeal-dismisses-pike-families'-legal-bidDo you deliberately pretend to misunderstand what people write or are you
reallydumb?
I didn't say it was Labour or the Greens, I was referring to you!
And the court case has nothing at all to do with entering the mine - you
moral rectitude in the "Rich" arena is, and always will be, a lost cause.are a dissembler
He's also incorrigible, which effectively means your evangelical crusade for
On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 8:29:52 AM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote: >> Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:And you totally miss the point. I don't actually care whether becomes a National supporter or takes up Jusaism. I will continue to call him out for his lies even if only 3 people read it. I remind you once more of the truism often attributed to Edmond Burke.
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 02:00:11 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netDo you deliberately pretend to misunderstand what people write or are you >>just
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!
No facts, just you and your horribly uncaring cronies who do not care how >> >>muchAnd another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night inhttp://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never >> >>>>>> came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people die
needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to >> >>>>>> die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all >> >>>>>> up and forget about it - because actually looking might find something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance >> >>>>>> is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which >> >>>>>> isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. "
"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks >> >>>>>into
the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot
lefties
are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock
fall).
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy >> >>>>>that
another 1% goes to the Nats.
tears
because of heartless ghouls.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct
information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO
has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
you hurt the families of the families victims in the pursuit of your
trivial
political objectives!
Disgusting!
Tony
It wasn't Labour or the Greens that the Pike River families were upset
about when they took this case - which is now going to the Supreme
Court . . .
http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/324677/court-of-appeal-dismisses-pike-families'-legal-bid
dumb?
I didn't say it was Labour or the Greens, I was referring to you!
And the court case has nothing at all to do with entering the mine - you >>really
are a dissembler
He's also incorrigible, which effectively means your evangelical crusade for >moral rectitude in the "Rich" arena is, and always will be, a lost cause.
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:My apology for a couple of typos- the message however remains!
On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 8:29:52 AM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:Tony
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 02:00:11 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>> >>>dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!
No facts, just you and your horribly uncaring cronies who do not care how >>> >>muchAnd another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in >>> >>>>tears"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke sticks >>> >>>>>intohttp://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to
families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I
guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people
might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people >>> >>>>>>die
needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to >>> >>>>>> die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all >>> >>>>>> up and forget about it - because actually looking might find
something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance >>> >>>>>> is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust
anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want
different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. " >>> >>>>>
the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot
lefties
are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock
fall).
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy >>> >>>>>that
another 1% goes to the Nats.
because of heartless ghouls.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct
information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO >>> >>>has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
you hurt the families of the families victims in the pursuit of your
trivial
political objectives!
Disgusting!
Tony
It wasn't Labour or the Greens that the Pike River families were upset
about when they took this case - which is now going to the Supreme
Court . . .
Do you deliberately pretend to misunderstand what people write or are you >>>justhttp://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/324677/court-of-appeal-dismisses-pike-families'-legal-bid
dumb?
I didn't say it was Labour or the Greens, I was referring to you!
And the court case has nothing at all to do with entering the mine - you >>>really
are a dissembler
He's also incorrigible, which effectively means your evangelical crusade for >>moral rectitude in the "Rich" arena is, and always will be, a lost cause. >And you totally miss the point. I don't actually care whether becomes a >National supporter or takes up Jusaism. I will continue to call him out for >his lies even if only 3 people read it. I remind you once more of the truism >often attributed to Edmond Burke.
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:My apology for a couple of typos- the message however remains!
On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 8:29:52 AM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:Tony
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 02:00:11 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>> >dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>> >>>dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!
No facts, just you and your horribly uncaring cronies who do not care howAnd another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in >>>> >>>>tears"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke stickshttp://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to >>>> >>>>>> families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I >>>> >>>>>>guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people >>>> >>>>>>might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people >>>> >>>>>>die
needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find
something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust >>>> >>>>>> anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want >>>> >>>>>> different decisions to be made, we need a different government, which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. " >>>> >>>>>
into
the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot >>>> >>>>>lefties
are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock >>>> >>>>>fall).
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this tragedy >>>> >>>>>that
another 1% goes to the Nats.
because of heartless ghouls.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct
information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO >>>> >>>has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
much
you hurt the families of the families victims in the pursuit of your >>>> >>trivial
political objectives!
Disgusting!
Tony
It wasn't Labour or the Greens that the Pike River families were upset >>>> >about when they took this case - which is now going to the Supreme
Court . . .
Do you deliberately pretend to misunderstand what people write or are you >>>>justhttp://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/324677/court-of-appeal-dismisses-pike-families'-legal-bid
dumb?
I didn't say it was Labour or the Greens, I was referring to you!
And the court case has nothing at all to do with entering the mine - you >>>>really
are a dissembler
He's also incorrigible, which effectively means your evangelical crusade for >>>moral rectitude in the "Rich" arena is, and always will be, a lost cause. >>And you totally miss the point. I don't actually care whether becomes a >>National supporter or takes up Jusaism. I will continue to call him out for >>his lies even if only 3 people read it. I remind you once more of the truism >>often attributed to Edmond Burke.
Tony
On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 01:50:29 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netWhat abuse?
dot nz> wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:My apology for a couple of typos- the message however remains!
On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 at 8:29:52 AM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com >>>>wrote:Tony
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 02:00:11 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>> >dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 23:07:25 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>> >>>dot nz> wrote:
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, 19 June 2017 15:39:30 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
Oh dear - another cover-up!
No facts, just you and your horribly uncaring cronies who do not care >>>>> >>howAnd another bereaved family member spends another sleepless night in >>>>> >>>>tears"Callous" is the way Labour and the idiot left continue to poke >>>>> >>>>>stickshttp://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/06/new-pike-footage-shows-no-sign-of-inferno.html
The blogger NRT says:
"They've had this footage since 2011. They've never shown it to >>>>> >>>>>> families, and they have effectively covered it up. As for why, I >>>>> >>>>>>guess
the last thing the government would want is evidence that people >>>>> >>>>>>might
have survived the initial explosion and waited for rescue which >>>>> >>>>>>never
came. Then they might go from a government which merely let people >>>>> >>>>>>die
needlessly due to deregulation to one which callously left people >>>>> >>>>>>to
die. For the politicians, the safest course is simply to seal it >>>>> >>>>>>all
up and forget about it - because actually looking might find
something
they desperately, desperately don't want to. For them, our
ignorance
is their bliss.
National has lied so often on this that we simply can not trust >>>>> >>>>>> anything they say on the issue. And pretty obviously, if we want >>>>> >>>>>> different decisions to be made, we need a different government, >>>>> >>>>>>which
isn't primarily invested in covering its own arse on the issue. " >>>>> >>>>>
into
the dead miners' corpses.
That bore is at the very, very far end of the mine. Even the idiot >>>>> >>>>>lefties
are
only talking about entering the drift (which is blocked by a rock >>>>> >>>>>fall).
I reckon every time some idiot lefty tries to politicise this
tragedy
that
another 1% goes to the Nats.
because of heartless ghouls.
Tony
Of course Newshub are ghouls - it sells!
But the fact remains that the families were not given correct
information - if you prefer, they were lied to. Nothjing you or JohnO >>>>> >>>has said makes up for that honesty deficit.
much
you hurt the families of the families victims in the pursuit of your >>>>> >>trivial
political objectives!
Disgusting!
Tony
It wasn't Labour or the Greens that the Pike River families were upset >>>>> >about when they took this case - which is now going to the Supreme
Court . . .
Do you deliberately pretend to misunderstand what people write or are you >>>>>justhttp://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/324677/court-of-appeal-dismisses-pike-families'-legal-bid
dumb?
I didn't say it was Labour or the Greens, I was referring to you!
And the court case has nothing at all to do with entering the mine - you >>>>>really
are a dissembler
He's also incorrigible, which effectively means your evangelical crusade >>>>for
moral rectitude in the "Rich" arena is, and always will be, a lost cause. >>>And you totally miss the point. I don't actually care whether becomes a >>>National supporter or takes up Jusaism. I will continue to call him out for >>>his lies even if only 3 people read it. I remind you once more of the truism >>>often attributed to Edmond Burke.
Tony
Your message slithered out through the drain long ago Tony - trolls
use abuse of other participants in a thread as a tactic to avoid a
reality they would rather run from than face.
To get back to the PikeNonsense and once more you are happy to lift the hope of the families for political gain knowing full well that nobody is going all the way into the mine where the men died.
River issue, I find it amusing that all those unthinking blind
supporters of the lies peddled by our current government firmly
believed that it was not possible to have another look at any part of
the mine - and suddenly some long held information was released
through the OIA, and facts were discovered that had previouly been
hidden - an Lo! the so-called expert opinions and scientific barriers
to entry suddenly disappeared! - although of course they will try to
only show what they want us to see even now. A callous government
meets a caring and persistent community who just want to know what
happened - and are finding that the cover-up is cold comfort. Using
insurance money to both pay some compensation to families and get out
of having to hold anyone to account was another callous scheme by the >government - that may well fall over in the court.
Moral rectitude? National don't understand the term.Irrelevant, unless you accept that both major parties and some minor parties share the same level of morality! But you will never do truth will you?
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