It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in calling a snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at least.
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete independance from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient opportunity. At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in calling a >> snap election.Some would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? ref. >And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at least. >>
On 6/9/2017 5:39 PM, Gordon wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in calling a >>> snap election.Some would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? ref. >> And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at least.
So much for how she was 'Maggy Thatcherish'...
There are times I wish all my relies and friends in Britain got out of there
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:a
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in calling
least.snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at
opportunity.I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete independance from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transientSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? ref. >And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in calling a >> snap election.Some would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? ref. And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at least. >>
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete independance >from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient opportunity.
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in calling a >>> snap election.Some would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? ref. >>And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at least.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:a
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in calling
least.snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at
opportunity.I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete independanceSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? ref. >>And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an
angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a
Marist and terrorist loving PM..
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete independance
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in calling aSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? ref. >> >>And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at least.
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence
referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the
interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an
angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the
conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a
Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a "zero-cred" opponent but also, perhaps worst ofall, has no engagement skills because, like far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over the water whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her bent double over every barrelthey can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government that's not only onthe back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of confusion is now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and her incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon themselves.their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be eating
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:of all, has no engagement skills because, like far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional intelligence.
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete independance
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in calling aSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? ref.
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at least.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence
referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the
interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an
angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the
conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a
Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a "zero-cred" opponent but also, perhaps worst
they can contrive.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over the water whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her bent double over every barrel
the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged Remainer-by-conviction. >>
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government that's not only on
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of confusion is now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and her incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon themselves.
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free
stuff just like Labor NZ is promising..
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:calling a
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in
least.snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at
ref.Some would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes?
independanceAnd see it is back, or at least has not gone away.I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete
opportunity.from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence
referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the
interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an
angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the
conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a
Marist and terrorist loving PM..
an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a "zero-cred" opponent but also, perhaps worstLike it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who prefer
to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over the water whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her bent double over every barrelMay is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by kneeling
it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government that's not only onAs for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now knows
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and her incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon themselves.Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of confusion is
eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free
stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
The Guardian gets very close to the truth.jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error inSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? >> >> >>ref.
calling a
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at >> >> >>>least.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
independance
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient
opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence
referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the
interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an
angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the
conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a
Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who
prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic
rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a "zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills because, like
far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by
kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over the water
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her bent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now
knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government that's not
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged
Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of confusion is >> >now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and her
incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon themselves. >> >
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be
eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free
stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails it:
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out of the >proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit system >that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she >claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for what >she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders to the >biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few in my >lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May & Co >are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al.
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:like
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:56:49 PM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in >>> >> >>>calling aSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? >>> >> >>ref.
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while at
least.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
independance
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient
opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence >>> >> referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the >>> >> interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an
angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the
conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a
Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who
prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic
rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a "zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills because,
The Guardian gets very close to the truth.far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by
kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over the water
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her bent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now
knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government that's not
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged
Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of confusion is
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and her >>> >incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon themselves. >>> >
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be >>> >eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free
stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails it: >>
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out of the
proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit system
that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she >>claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for what >>she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders to the
biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few in my >>lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May & Co >>are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al.
THank goodness we don't have a government like that here!
Tony
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:49:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netWhat absolute nonsense, Brexit is a result of complacent voting.
dot nz> wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:56:49 PM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
The Guardian gets very close to the truth.jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in >>>>> >> >>>calling aSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes?
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while >>>>> >> >>>at
least.
ref.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
independance
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient >>>>> >> >opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence >>>>> >> referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the >>>>> >> interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an >>>>> >> angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the >>>>> >> conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a >>>>> >> Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who >>>>> >prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic >>>>> >rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a >>>>> >"zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills
because, like
far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional
intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by >>>>> >kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over the
water
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her >>>>> >bent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now >>>>> >knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government that's
not
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged
Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of confusion >>>>> >is
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and her >>>>> >incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon themselves.
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be >>>>> >eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free
stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails it: >>>>
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out of >>>>the
proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit >>>>system
that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she >>>>claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for >>>>what
she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders to >>>>the
biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few in >>>>my
lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May & >>>>Co
are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al.
THank goodness we don't have a government like that here!
Tony
Brexit is certainly a hurdle that thankfully we do not face - in many >>respects that debacle is an earlier bungle by the Conservatives, with
many of hte claims by the Tories before the vote now being seen as
typical Tory lies. Other than that, the comparison of governments is >>remarkably close - what other differences do you see, Tony?
There are no typical Tory lies, there are however typical politician's lies. >There is also no comparison, the Tory government is far more right wing than >ours and our government just gave almost everybody tax cuts. Of course, they >can afford to because of strong and wise stewardship over the past 6 or more >years.
Tony
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:49:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netWhat absolute nonsense, Brexit is a result of complacent voting.
dot nz> wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:56:49 PM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
The Guardian gets very close to the truth.jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in >>>> >> >>>calling aSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes? >>>> >> >>ref.
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while >>>> >> >>>at
least.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
independance
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient >>>> >> >opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence >>>> >> referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the >>>> >> interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an
angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the
conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a
Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who >>>> >prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic
rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a
"zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills
because, like
far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional
intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by
kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over the >>>> >water
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her >>>> >bent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now >>>> >knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government that's >>>> >not
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged
Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of confusion >>>> >is
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and her >>>> >incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon themselves.
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be >>>> >eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free
stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails it: >>>
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out of >>>the
proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit >>>system
that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she >>>claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for >>>what
she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders to >>>the
biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few in >>>my
lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May & >>>Co
are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al.
THank goodness we don't have a government like that here!
Tony
Brexit is certainly a hurdle that thankfully we do not face - in many >respects that debacle is an earlier bungle by the Conservatives, with
many of hte claims by the Tories before the vote now being seen as
typical Tory lies. Other than that, the comparison of governments is >remarkably close - what other differences do you see, Tony?
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 20:08:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netin
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:49:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:56:49 PM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error
whilecalling a
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a
Yes?atSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country
least.
independenceref.I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete >>>>> >> >independance
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient >>>>> >> >opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an
thereferendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing
theinterview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an >>>>> >> angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the >>>>> >> conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a >>>>> >> Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who >>>>> >prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic >>>>> >rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a >>>>> >"zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills >>>>> >because, like
far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional >>>>> >intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by >>>>> >kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over
herwater
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep
that'sbent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now >>>>> >knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government
confusionnot
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged
Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of
heris
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and
themselves.incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon
be
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now
it:eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free
stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails
of
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out
tothe
proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit >>>>system
that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she >>>>claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for >>>>what
she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders
inthe
biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few
&my
lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May
Lie.What absolute nonsense, Brexit is a result of complacent voting.CoThe Guardian gets very close to the truth.
are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al.
THank goodness we don't have a government like that here!
Tony
Brexit is certainly a hurdle that thankfully we do not face - in many >>respects that debacle is an earlier bungle by the Conservatives, with >>many of hte claims by the Tories before the vote now being seen as >>typical Tory lies. Other than that, the comparison of governments is >>remarkably close - what other differences do you see, Tony?
There are no typical Tory lies, there are however typical politician's lies. >There is also no comparison, the Tory government is far more right wing than >ours and our government just gave almost everybody tax cuts. Of course, they >can afford to because of strong and wise stewardship over the past 6 or more >years.
Tony
Running down health services
and public education,Lie.
high immigration toLie.
avoid decent support for job training,
increasing unemployment,Lie.
increasing debtLie.
- just like the Tories . . .
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 20:08:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNo not at all.
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:49:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netWhat absolute nonsense, Brexit is a result of complacent voting.
dot nz> wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:56:49 PM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
The Guardian gets very close to the truth.jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete >>>>>> >> >independance
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in >>>>>> >> >>>calling aSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country >>>>>> >> >>Yes?
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a >>>>>> >> >>>while
at
least.
ref.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient >>>>>> >> >opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence >>>>>> >> referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the >>>>>> >> interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an >>>>>> >> angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the >>>>>> >> conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a >>>>>> >> Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who >>>>>> >prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic >>>>>> >rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a >>>>>> >"zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills >>>>>> >because, like
far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional >>>>>> >intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by >>>>>> >kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over >>>>>> >the
water
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her >>>>>> >bent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now >>>>>> >knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government >>>>>> >that's
not
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged
Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of
confusion
is
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and >>>>>> >her
incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon
themselves.
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be >>>>>> >eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free
stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails it:
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out of >>>>>the
proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit >>>>>system
that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she >>>>>claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for >>>>>what
she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders to >>>>>the
biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few in >>>>>my
lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May & >>>>>Co
are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al.
THank goodness we don't have a government like that here!
Tony
Brexit is certainly a hurdle that thankfully we do not face - in many >>>respects that debacle is an earlier bungle by the Conservatives, with >>>many of hte claims by the Tories before the vote now being seen as >>>typical Tory lies. Other than that, the comparison of governments is >>>remarkably close - what other differences do you see, Tony?
There are no typical Tory lies, there are however typical politician's lies. >>There is also no comparison, the Tory government is far more right wing than >>ours and our government just gave almost everybody tax cuts. Of course, they >>can afford to because of strong and wise stewardship over the past 6 or more >>years.
Tony
Running down health services and public education, high immigration to
avoid decent support for job training, increasing unemployment,
increasing debt - just like the Tories . . .
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 20:08:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNo not at all.
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:49:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>dot nz> wrote:What absolute nonsense, Brexit is a result of complacent voting.
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:56:49 PM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
The Guardian gets very close to the truth.jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete >>>>>>> >> >independance
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error inSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country >>>>>>> >> >>Yes?
calling a
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a >>>>>>> >> >>>while
at
least.
ref.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient >>>>>>> >> >opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence
referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the
interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an >>>>>>> >> angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the >>>>>>> >> conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a >>>>>>> >> Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who >>>>>>> >prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic >>>>>>> >rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a >>>>>>> >"zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills >>>>>>> >because, like
far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional >>>>>>> >intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by >>>>>>> >kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over >>>>>>> >the
water
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her
bent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now >>>>>>> >knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government >>>>>>> >that's
not
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged
Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of
confusion
is
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and >>>>>>> >her
incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon
themselves.
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be
eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free >>>>>>> stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails it:
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out of
the
proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit >>>>>>system
that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she >>>>>>claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for >>>>>>what
she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders to
the
biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few in
my
lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May &
Co
are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al.
THank goodness we don't have a government like that here!
Tony
Brexit is certainly a hurdle that thankfully we do not face - in many >>>>respects that debacle is an earlier bungle by the Conservatives, with >>>>many of hte claims by the Tories before the vote now being seen as >>>>typical Tory lies. Other than that, the comparison of governments is >>>>remarkably close - what other differences do you see, Tony?
There are no typical Tory lies, there are however typical politician's lies. >>>There is also no comparison, the Tory government is far more right wing than >>>ours and our government just gave almost everybody tax cuts. Of course, they >>>can afford to because of strong and wise stewardship over the past 6 or more >>>years.
Tony
Running down health services and public education, high immigration to >>avoid decent support for job training, increasing unemployment,
increasing debt - just like the Tories . . .
The health service is not being run down, it is better funded than ever even >allowing for inflation, there are more police and it goes on.
Tony
On Monday, 12 June 2017 13:15:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:the
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 20:08:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:49:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:56:49 PM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error inSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes?
calling a
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while
at
least.
ref.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
independance
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient >> >>>>> >> >opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence
referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the
interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an >> >>>>> >> angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the >> >>>>> >> conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a >> >>>>> >> Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who >> >>>>> >prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic >> >>>>> >rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a >> >>>>> >"zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills
because, like
far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional
intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by >> >>>>> >kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over
&water
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her
bent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now
knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government that's
not
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged
Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of confusion
is
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and her
incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon themselves.
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be
eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free
stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails it:
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out of
the
proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit >> >>>>system
that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she >> >>>>claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for >> >>>>what
she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders to
the
biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few in
my
lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May
$1.7 billion below parity - now claimed to be $2.3 billion . . .Lie.What absolute nonsense, Brexit is a result of complacent voting.CoThe Guardian gets very close to the truth.
are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al.
THank goodness we don't have a government like that here!
Tony
Brexit is certainly a hurdle that thankfully we do not face - in many
respects that debacle is an earlier bungle by the Conservatives, with
many of hte claims by the Tories before the vote now being seen as
typical Tory lies. Other than that, the comparison of governments is
remarkably close - what other differences do you see, Tony?
There are no typical Tory lies, there are however typical politician's lies.
There is also no comparison, the Tory government is far more right wing than
ours and our government just gave almost everybody tax cuts. Of course, they
can afford to because of strong and wise stewardship over the past 6 or more
years.
Tony
Running down health services
Operating grants frozen $ per student steadily decreasing - althoughand public education,Lie.
Apprenticeship schemes cut - innigrants come already trained andhigh immigration toLie.
avoid decent support for job training,
40,000 more than when National were elected in 2008 - and that afterincreasing unemployment,Lie.
Even you cannot believe your claim there!increasing debtLie.
Are you trying to challenge the Pooh-Troll?- just like the Tories . . .
Not doing very well are you, Dickbot?
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 20:25:57 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netWhat are you smoking? It must be full of sarcasm!
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 20:08:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNo not at all.
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:49:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>>dot nz> wrote:What absolute nonsense, Brexit is a result of complacent voting.
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:56:49 PM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
THank goodness we don't have a government like that here!jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote: >>>>>>>> >> Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete >>>>>>>> >> >independance
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error >>>>>>>> >> >>>inSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country >>>>>>>> >> >>Yes?
calling a
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a >>>>>>>> >> >>>while
at
least.
ref.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient >>>>>>>> >> >opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an
independence
referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing >>>>>>>> >>the
interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an >>>>>>>> >> angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the >>>>>>>> >> conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a >>>>>>>> >> Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who >>>>>>>> >prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic >>>>>>>> >rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a >>>>>>>> >"zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills >>>>>>>> >because, like
far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional >>>>>>>> >intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by >>>>>>>> >kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over >>>>>>>> >the
water
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep >>>>>>>> >her
bent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels >>>>>>>> >now
knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government >>>>>>>> >that's
not
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged >>>>>>>> >Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of >>>>>>>> >confusion
is
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and >>>>>>>> >her
incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon >>>>>>>> >themselves.
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now >>>>>>>> >be
eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free >>>>>>>> stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails >>>>>>>it:
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out >>>>>>>of
the
proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit >>>>>>>system
that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she >>>>>>>claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for >>>>>>>what
she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders >>>>>>>to
the
biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few >>>>>>>in
my
lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May >>>>>>>&
Co
are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al. >>>>>>The Guardian gets very close to the truth.
Tony
Brexit is certainly a hurdle that thankfully we do not face - in many >>>>>respects that debacle is an earlier bungle by the Conservatives, with >>>>>many of hte claims by the Tories before the vote now being seen as >>>>>typical Tory lies. Other than that, the comparison of governments is >>>>>remarkably close - what other differences do you see, Tony?
There are no typical Tory lies, there are however typical politician's lies.
There is also no comparison, the Tory government is far more right wing >>>>than
ours and our government just gave almost everybody tax cuts. Of course, >>>>they
can afford to because of strong and wise stewardship over the past 6 or >>>>more
years.
Tony
Running down health services and public education, high immigration to >>>avoid decent support for job training, increasing unemployment, >>>increasing debt - just like the Tories . . .
The health service is not being run down, it is better funded than ever even >>allowing for inflation, there are more police and it goes on.
Tony
I haven't seen you use the 'lalaland' attempt at rebuttal before, Tony
- the UK results must have rattled you
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 18:30:46 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>the
wrote:
On Monday, 12 June 2017 13:15:19 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 20:08:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:49:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>>> dot nz> wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:56:49 PM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete >>>>>>>>>>> independance
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in >>>>>>>>>>>>> calling aSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes?
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while
at
least.
ref.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient >>>>>>>>>>> opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence
referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the
interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an >>>>>>>>>> angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the >>>>>>>>>> conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a >>>>>>>>>> Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who >>>>>>>>> prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic >>>>>>>>> rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a >>>>>>>>> "zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills >>>>>>>>> because, like
far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional >>>>>>>>> intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by >>>>>>>>> kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over
it:water
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her
bent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now
knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government that's
not
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged >>>>>>>>> Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of confusion
is
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and her
incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon themselves.
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be
eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free >>>>>>>> stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails
of
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out
tothe
proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit >>>>>>> system
that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she
claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for
what
she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders
inthe
biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few
$1.7 billion below parity - now claimed to be $2.3 billion . . .Lie.What absolute nonsense, Brexit is a result of complacent voting.myThe Guardian gets very close to the truth.
lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May &
Co
are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al.
THank goodness we don't have a government like that here!
Tony
Brexit is certainly a hurdle that thankfully we do not face - in many >>>>> respects that debacle is an earlier bungle by the Conservatives, with >>>>> many of hte claims by the Tories before the vote now being seen as
typical Tory lies. Other than that, the comparison of governments is >>>>> remarkably close - what other differences do you see, Tony?
There are no typical Tory lies, there are however typical politician's lies.
There is also no comparison, the Tory government is far more right wing than
ours and our government just gave almost everybody tax cuts. Of course, they
can afford to because of strong and wise stewardship over the past 6 or more
years.
Tony
Running down health services
Operating grants frozen $ per student steadily decreasing - althoughand public education,Lie.
Charter schools are costing a lot more (that farm the promoters
retained alone would have been very useful for state schools)
Apprenticeship schemes cut - innigrants come already trained andhigh immigration toLie.
avoid decent support for job training,
willing to take lower pay . . .
40,000 more than when National were elected in 2008 - and that afterincreasing unemployment,Lie.
National got the number reduced by changing the definition
Even you cannot believe your claim there!increasing debtLie.
Are you trying to challenge the Pooh-Troll?- just like the Tories . . .
Not doing very well are you, Dickbot?
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 20:08:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 21:49:40 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netWhat absolute nonsense, Brexit is a result of complacent voting.
dot nz> wrote:
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 2:56:49 PM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
The Guardian gets very close to the truth.jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 9:34:28 AM UTC+12, Mutley wrote:
Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net dot nz> wrote:
Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I have struggled to understand why Scotland would want complete >>>>>>>>> independance
It looks like the British Prime Minister made a tactical error in >>>>>>>>>>> calling aSome would say that happened at the Make Scotland a free Country Yes?
snap election.
At least the silliness in Scotland may come to a halt, for a while >>>>>>>>>>> at
least.
ref.
And see it is back, or at least has not gone away.
from the rest of the UK. Yes they have oil but that is a transient >>>>>>>>> opportunity.
At least the debate has so far been peaceful.
Tony
Looks like the SNP made one too many suggestions for an independence >>>>>>>> referendum.
Glad to see that the Greens over there only got one seat. Seeing the >>>>>>>> interview with her she makes Sarah Huckabee Sanders look like an >>>>>>>> angel with the venom she was spewing out of her mouth against the >>>>>>>> conservatives.
Glad Labor did not get in or the UK would have been screwed with a >>>>>>>> Marist and terrorist loving PM..
Like it or not, he garners the approval of the younger generation who >>>>>>> prefer an articulate mild-mannered geography teacher over a robotic >>>>>>> rote-chanting waxwork who not only cuts and runs from debate with a >>>>>>> "zero-cred"
opponent but also, perhaps worst of all, has no engagement skills >>>>>>> because, like
far too many Tories, she possesses not one scintilla of emotional >>>>>>> intelligence.
May is totally humiliated. She now holds the keys to No 10 only by >>>>>>> kneeling to a handful of stolid fundamentalist Paisley-ites from over the
water
whose glory moment has unexpectedly come upon them, and who'll keep her >>>>>>> bent
double over every barrel they can contrive.
As for her Brexit negotiations beginning in 10 days time, Brussels now >>>>>>> knows it'll be dealing with a weak and compromised Tory government that's
not
only on the back foot but is also headed by a severely damaged
Remainer-by-conviction.
Still holed up in No 10, this walking, slogan-talking chaos of confusion
is
now forced to embark on a long day's journey into night that she and her
incompetent handlers, Lynton Crosby and all, have brought upon themselves.
The fool's-gold Brexiteers, along with Tory Central Office, will now be >>>>>>> eating their own livers and good luck to them, I say.
Because luck is all they can hope to count on.
The young people only voted labor because they were promised free
stuff just like Labor NZ is promising.
They simply saw May for what she was, and still is. The Guardian nails it:
"....the plight of a younger generation (who see themselves) locked out of
the
proceeds of prosperity. Despite enacting changes to the tax and benefit >>>>> system
that leave low-income families thousands of pounds a year worse off, she >>>>> claimed to be fighting their corner....There were enough who saw her for >>>>> what
she is: disingenuous, dogmatic, unstrategic."
Meanwhile, Labour can enjoy the questionable luxury of being bystanders to
the
biggest Tory fuckup I've ever witnessed - and I've seen more than a few in
my
lifetime, including yet another Tory debacle: Suez.
Naked and empty handed, disempowered by their own rank incompetence, May &
Co
are now forced to play directly into the hands of Merkel et al.
THank goodness we don't have a government like that here!
Tony
Brexit is certainly a hurdle that thankfully we do not face - in many
respects that debacle is an earlier bungle by the Conservatives, with
many of hte claims by the Tories before the vote now being seen as
typical Tory lies. Other than that, the comparison of governments is
remarkably close - what other differences do you see, Tony?
There are no typical Tory lies, there are however typical politician's lies. >> There is also no comparison, the Tory government is far more right wing than >> ours and our government just gave almost everybody tax cuts. Of course, they >> can afford to because of strong and wise stewardship over the past 6 or more >> years.
Tony
Running down health services and public education, high immigration to
avoid decent support for job training, increasing unemployment,
increasing debt - just like the Tories . . .
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