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    From Tony @3:770/3 to All on Thursday, June 08, 2017 20:06:07
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/93481260/mine-staff-safety-threatened-after-protesters-padlock-gate-at-mt-karangahake-gold-mine
    Presumably they had the opportunity to have their say before the decision to grant permission to mine gold was made.
    If so, they are low life and deserve to be trespassed.
    Putting other people's lives at risk and preventing other people from going about their lawful business is not acceptable.
    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to dot nz on Friday, June 09, 2017 14:38:32
    On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 20:06:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/93481260/mine-staff-safety-threatened-after-protesters-padlock-gate-at-mt-karangahake-gold-mine
    Presumably they had the opportunity to have their say before the decision to >grant permission to mine gold was made.
    If so, they are low life and deserve to be trespassed.
    Putting other people's lives at risk and preventing other people from going >about their lawful business is not acceptable.
    Tony

    Anti-democracy? Really? Next you will be calling it Terrorism!

    Did you read the article? It says quite clearly that there was strong opposition from the Karangahake community:

    The decision to allow the mine to start has nothing to with democracy
    - there is no threat to our government's ability to use Conservation
    land to enrich another private company, and no threat to our ability
    to vote accordingly at the next election.

    Protesting a decision that they did not agree with is not per se
    illegal, and there is no indication that they were treapassing.

    Putting others lives at risk is however not acceptable, and the action
    by an unknown person may well have been illegal. I hope it is
    investigated and if approriate that a charge is laid.

    As for freedom, yes it does appear that freedom to enjoy part of oour Conservation estate has been restricted - but not by the protestors.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Thursday, June 08, 2017 22:37:14
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 20:06:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/93481260/mine-staff-safety-threatened-after-protesters-padlock-gate-at-mt-karangahake-gold-mine
    Presumably they had the opportunity to have their say before the decision to >>grant permission to mine gold was made.
    If so, they are low life and deserve to be trespassed.
    Putting other people's lives at risk and preventing other people from going >>about their lawful business is not acceptable.
    Tony

    Anti-democracy? Really? Next you will be calling it Terrorism!
    No I wouldn't but you would, after all you lie all the time, even more than Trump!

    Did you read the article? It says quite clearly that there was strong >opposition from the Karangahake community:
    Why do you deliberately miss simple concepts? The point is that permission to mine was given and therefore previous opposition to the approval is now moot, can you follow that?

    The decision to allow the mine to start has nothing to with democracy
    It was given after due democratic process (you know, powers given to departments and councils by duly elected governments, can you follow that?)
    - there is no threat to our government's ability to use Conservation
    land to enrich another private company, and no threat to our ability
    to vote accordingly at the next election.
    Your mindless obsession with imaginary activities is once again noted.

    Protesting a decision that they did not agree with is not per se
    illegal
    I didn't say it is illegal, do you think it is - if not why do you say such silly things?
    , and there is no indication that they were treapassing.
    It is extremely likely that they were, they closed (ppresumably) and locked (as reported) a gate on the access access way.

    Putting others lives at risk is however not acceptable, and the action
    by an unknown person may well have been illegal. I hope it is
    investigated and if approriate that a charge is laid.
    You finally got something right, well done, it was of course inevitable (enough monkeys playing with typewriters will eventually write something that remotely resembles an English word)!

    As for freedom, yes it does appear that freedom to enjoy part of oour >Conservation estate has been restricted - but not by the protestors.
    Your sarcsam lets you down once more.
    The freedom to conduct ones business is what I referred to but you of course don't believe in that.
    The protesters put lives at risk and they obstructed the rights of other people to conduct their lawful business. If you disagree with any of that please say so with evidence, otherwise stop trying to be smart - that takes more than the limited brain cells that you still have.

    Tony

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to All on Friday, June 09, 2017 05:41:52
    On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/93481260/mine-staff-safety-threatened-after-protesters-padlock-gate-at-mt-karangahake-gold-mine
    Presumably they had the opportunity to have their say before the decision to grant permission to mine gold was made.
    If so, they are low life and deserve to be trespassed.
    Putting other people's lives at risk and preventing other people from going about their lawful business is not acceptable.

    Blessed is the radical, for without him there would be no progress.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to Gordon on Friday, June 09, 2017 01:54:52
    Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/93481260/mine-staff-safety-threatened-after-protesters-padlock-gate-at-mt-karangahake-gold-mine
    Presumably they had the opportunity to have their say before the decision to >> grant permission to mine gold was made.
    If so, they are low life and deserve to be trespassed.
    Putting other people's lives at risk and preventing other people from going >> about their lawful business is not acceptable.

    Blessed is the radical, for without him there would be no progress.
    But not at the cost of innocent lives, or at least not in current times!
    Tony

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Saturday, June 10, 2017 08:36:26
    On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 08:30:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 6/9/2017 5:41 PM, Gordon wrote:
    On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/93481260/mine-staff-safety-threatened-after-protesters-padlock-gate-at-mt-karangahake-gold-mine
    Presumably they had the opportunity to have their say before the decision to
    grant permission to mine gold was made.
    If so, they are low life and deserve to be trespassed.
    Putting other people's lives at risk and preventing other people from going >>> about their lawful business is not acceptable.

    Blessed is the radical, for without him there would be no progress.

    Unable to work at your job because of some layabouts 'rights' doesn't
    strike me as any sort of progress

    Destruction and pollution of Conservation land is not popular - given
    the amount of it that has happened against the will of locals, are you surprised that there is some mild opposition?

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, June 09, 2017 16:00:23
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 08:30:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 6/9/2017 5:41 PM, Gordon wrote:
    On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/93481260/mine-staff-safety-threatened-after-protesters-padlock-gate-at-mt-karangahake-gold-mine
    Presumably they had the opportunity to have their say before the decision >>>>to
    grant permission to mine gold was made.
    If so, they are low life and deserve to be trespassed.
    Putting other people's lives at risk and preventing other people from going
    about their lawful business is not acceptable.

    Blessed is the radical, for without him there would be no progress.

    Unable to work at your job because of some layabouts 'rights' doesn't >>strike me as any sort of progress

    Destruction and pollution of Conservation land is not popular - given
    the amount of it that has happened against the will of locals, are you >surprised that there is some mild opposition?
    Once more you condone one person removing the rights of another despite the latter being lawfully entitled.

    Tony

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Gordon on Saturday, June 10, 2017 08:30:17
    On 6/9/2017 5:41 PM, Gordon wrote:
    On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/93481260/mine-staff-safety-threatened-after-protesters-padlock-gate-at-mt-karangahake-gold-mine
    Presumably they had the opportunity to have their say before the decision to >> grant permission to mine gold was made.
    If so, they are low life and deserve to be trespassed.
    Putting other people's lives at risk and preventing other people from going >> about their lawful business is not acceptable.

    Blessed is the radical, for without him there would be no progress.

    Unable to work at your job because of some layabouts 'rights' doesn't
    strike me as any sort of progress

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, June 10, 2017 13:11:04
    On 10/06/2017 8:36 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 08:30:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 6/9/2017 5:41 PM, Gordon wrote:
    On 2017-06-09, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/93481260/mine-staff-safety-threatened-after-protesters-padlock-gate-at-mt-karangahake-gold-mine
    Presumably they had the opportunity to have their say before the decision to
    grant permission to mine gold was made.
    If so, they are low life and deserve to be trespassed.
    Putting other people's lives at risk and preventing other people from going
    about their lawful business is not acceptable.

    Blessed is the radical, for without him there would be no progress.

    Unable to work at your job because of some layabouts 'rights' doesn't
    strike me as any sort of progress

    Destruction and pollution of Conservation land is not popular - given
    the amount of it that has happened against the will of locals, are you surprised that there is some mild opposition?

    What destruction. What pollution? The mine is on the site of old mine
    workers and the mine tailings are transported elsewhere for processing.
    Not against the will of all locals Rich. If you'd read the article and comprehended what you'd read you'd understand the protest group is made
    up from people who live in the Coromandel and as far away as Auckland.
    Hardly local. But you keep up the fake news disemination Rich. It's all
    we expect from you.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, June 10, 2017 13:04:52
    On 9/06/2017 2:38 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Thu, 08 Jun 2017 20:06:07 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/93481260/mine-staff-safety-threatened-after-protesters-padlock-gate-at-mt-karangahake-gold-mine
    Presumably they had the opportunity to have their say before the decision to >> grant permission to mine gold was made.
    If so, they are low life and deserve to be trespassed.
    Putting other people's lives at risk and preventing other people from going >> about their lawful business is not acceptable.
    Tony

    Anti-democracy? Really? Next you will be calling it Terrorism!


    Rich you and people like these don't understand the meaning of democracy.

    Did you read the article? It says quite clearly that there was strong opposition from the Karangahake community:


    So what. The right to mine was granted fairly and democratically. This
    bunch seem to be of the ilk who march with commercial y produced
    placards claiming 'not my President' and the latest from socialist
    (marxist) workers in the UK. i.e. Like you and the union stooge lot
    believe you have the only rights that need to be followed.

    The decision to allow the mine to start has nothing to with democracy
    - there is no threat to our government's ability to use Conservation
    land to enrich another private company, and no threat to our ability
    to vote accordingly at the next election.

    not conservation land Rich. It's an old mine sight. But don't let
    inconvenient facts get in the way of a good grizzle. You haven't ever
    since you crawled into this ng.

    Protesting a decision that they did not agree with is not per se
    illegal, and there is no indication that they were treapassing.


    Blocking roads and padlocking gates and blocking access for police and emergency vehicles is. Funny how when idiots like you do this sort of
    stunt it's fine. If it was a protest against Labour you'd be singing a
    much different song.

    Putting others lives at risk is however not acceptable, and the action
    by an unknown person may well have been illegal. I hope it is
    investigated and if approriate that a charge is laid.


    Weasel words. much like those from the leader of this protest group.

    As for freedom, yes it does appear that freedom to enjoy part of oour Conservation estate has been restricted - but not by the protestors.

    Nobody's enjoyment of the walkways and cycle trails have been restricted
    Rich. But you keep making shit up it's always good for a laugh:)

    Pooh

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