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  • And the gaucherie continues

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Monday, June 05, 2017 11:03:25
    Bronagh Key is of course Bronagh, Lady Key - but it seems John Key no
    longer has the close advisers and his true "Trump-lite" nature and
    arrogance is coming through again.

    Fortunately the list does contain many worthy New Zealanders - for
    example George Salmond, who as Director-General of Health performed
    very well; a true gentleman who spoke out for the best interests of
    the Health of New Zealanders - he was perhaps fortunate to serve
    during a time when free and frank advice was welcomed; New Zealand
    benefitted from his skills and wide knowledge.

    Peter Jack was another who served others in quite a different way -
    through many years of assisting in training and management in
    Athletics.

    Both these recipients of wards put others before themselves, and
    deserve the honour

    That John Key was on the list is an indictment on the judgement of
    those who made the recommendation to the Queen - they as much as John
    Key demonstrate that they do not understand the difference between
    service to the State and service to the narrow interests of a
    political party and its friends.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Sunday, June 04, 2017 18:19:16
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Bronagh Key is of course Bronagh, Lady Key - but it seems John Key no
    longer has the close advisers and his true "Trump-lite" nature and
    arrogance is coming through again.

    Fortunately the list does contain many worthy New Zealanders - for
    example George Salmond, who as Director-General of Health performed
    very well; a true gentleman who spoke out for the best interests of
    the Health of New Zealanders - he was perhaps fortunate to serve
    during a time when free and frank advice was welcomed; New Zealand
    benefitted from his skills and wide knowledge.

    Peter Jack was another who served others in quite a different way -
    through many years of assisting in training and management in
    Athletics.

    Both these recipients of wards put others before themselves, and
    deserve the honour

    That John Key was on the list is an indictment on the judgement of
    those who made the recommendation to the Queen - they as much as John
    Key demonstrate that they do not understand the difference between
    service to the State and service to the narrow interests of a
    political party and its friends.
    My word you really are bitter and single mindedly one-eyed.
    Every Prime Minister is offered an honour after their time in the post, even Helen Clark accepted the ONZ. A small number have turned it down but otherwise it happens.
    It is not and never has been anything to do with service to people, it is just one of those things. Anyway he was as good a Prime Minister as most in the past 50 years and better than many.
    Tony

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  • From jmschristophers@gmail.com@3:770/3 to nor...@googlegroups.com on Sunday, June 04, 2017 18:29:12
    On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 11:19:22 AM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Bronagh Key is of course Bronagh, Lady Key - but it seems John Key no >longer has the close advisers and his true "Trump-lite" nature and >arrogance is coming through again.

    Fortunately the list does contain many worthy New Zealanders - for
    example George Salmond, who as Director-General of Health performed
    very well; a true gentleman who spoke out for the best interests of
    the Health of New Zealanders - he was perhaps fortunate to serve
    during a time when free and frank advice was welcomed; New Zealand >benefitted from his skills and wide knowledge.

    Peter Jack was another who served others in quite a different way -
    through many years of assisting in training and management in
    Athletics.

    Both these recipients of wards put others before themselves, and
    deserve the honour

    That John Key was on the list is an indictment on the judgement of
    those who made the recommendation to the Queen - they as much as John
    Key demonstrate that they do not understand the difference between
    service to the State and service to the narrow interests of a
    political party and its friends.
    My word you really are bitter and single mindedly one-eyed.
    Every Prime Minister is offered an honour after their time in the post, even Helen Clark accepted the ONZ. A small number have turned it down but
    otherwise
    it happens.
    It is not and never has been anything to do with service to people, it is
    just
    one of those things. Anyway he was as good a Prime Minister as most in the
    past
    50 years and better than many.
    Tony

    The award is also a great class leveller.

    After all, when Trash-TV queen and darling of her doting audience of slackjawed
    slumpguts, Julie Christie, is simultaneously elevated to the same rank as a bird-of-passage international politician, you know that it can never be more than rote symbolism -
    fully confirmed when the crassest of humblebrag is all John Key can deliver in acknowledgement.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Monday, June 05, 2017 07:52:44
    On 2017-06-04, Rich80105 <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Bronagh Key is of course Bronagh, Lady Key - but it seems John Key no
    longer has the close advisers and his true "Trump-lite" nature and
    arrogance is coming through again.

    Fortunately the list does contain many worthy New Zealanders - for
    example George Salmond, who as Director-General of Health performed
    very well; a true gentleman who spoke out for the best interests of
    the Health of New Zealanders - he was perhaps fortunate to serve
    during a time when free and frank advice was welcomed; New Zealand
    benefitted from his skills and wide knowledge.

    Peter Jack was another who served others in quite a different way -
    through many years of assisting in training and management in
    Athletics.

    Both these recipients of wards put others before themselves, and
    deserve the honour

    That John Key was on the list is an indictment on the judgement of
    those who made the recommendation to the Queen - they as much as John
    Key demonstrate that they do not understand the difference between
    service to the State and service to the narrow interests of a
    political party and its friends.

    Well, let us remember that Sir Robert Muldoon got a knighthood while he was still PM.

    These awards are really a waste of time, money. What good they I am darned
    if I know. Just a tradition which some feel the need is needed.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to All on Monday, June 05, 2017 07:56:40
    On 2017-06-04, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:

    It is not and never has been anything to do with service to people, it is
    just
    one of those things.

    As my Father often commented. It goes with the job. Which really devalues
    any worth it had in the first place if all PMs get it.


    Anyway he was as good a Prime Minister as most in the past
    50 years and better than many.

    We better define good eh?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Tony on Wednesday, June 07, 2017 00:40:18
    On 5/06/2017 11:19 a.m., Tony wrote:
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    Bronagh Key is of course Bronagh, Lady Key - but it seems John Key no
    longer has the close advisers and his true "Trump-lite" nature and
    arrogance is coming through again.

    Fortunately the list does contain many worthy New Zealanders - for
    example George Salmond, who as Director-General of Health performed
    very well; a true gentleman who spoke out for the best interests of
    the Health of New Zealanders - he was perhaps fortunate to serve
    during a time when free and frank advice was welcomed; New Zealand
    benefitted from his skills and wide knowledge.

    Peter Jack was another who served others in quite a different way -
    through many years of assisting in training and management in
    Athletics.

    Both these recipients of wards put others before themselves, and
    deserve the honour

    That John Key was on the list is an indictment on the judgement of
    those who made the recommendation to the Queen - they as much as John
    Key demonstrate that they do not understand the difference between
    service to the State and service to the narrow interests of a
    political party and its friends.
    My word you really are bitter and single mindedly one-eyed.
    Every Prime Minister is offered an honour after their time in the post, even Helen Clark accepted the ONZ. A small number have turned it down but
    otherwise
    it happens.
    It is not and never has been anything to do with service to people, it is
    just
    one of those things. Anyway he was as good a Prime Minister as most in the
    past
    50 years and better than many.
    Tony


    Considering Rich glorifies Labour who achieved little else than
    increasing government debt because of ill conceived legislation and the purchase of a clapped out train set that's cost us $5billion+ to date.
    All this during boom times. Whereas Key has returned New Zealand to a
    slightly better position after 9 years of disasters he probably is more deserving of his award the Helen.

    Pooh

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