On Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netMy sincere apology, it was unintentional
dot nz> wrote:
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Please keep the political sewer out of nz.comp and nz.tech.
Crosspost trimmed.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-againa
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly full of
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world leaders out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the helm of
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage?
Tony
On Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
[snipped]
Please keep the political sewer out of nz.comp.
Followup to nz.general
On Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
[snipped]
Please keep the political sewer out of nz.tech.
Followup to nz.general
On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 10:24:11 AM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote: >> http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-againdriven by his delusional beliefs.
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly full of
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world leaders >> out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the helm of a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage?
Tony
Those inhabitants of the establishment - i.e. "the swamp" - who've taken Trump's shilling and are now serving in the White House, know they're dealing with a presidential psychotic, this characterised by his grandiosity and paranoia, both of which are
IOW, Trump is the classic sociopath, detached from all reality, and incompetent in all formal and personal relationships other than with his wife and daughter who, perhaps not surprisingly, increasingly resemble warmed up exhibits from Madame Toussaud's.
On Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
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Please keep the political sewer out of nz.comp and nz.tech.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly full of >hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world leaders >out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the helm of a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage?
Tony
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hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other than inept.
dot nz> wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly full of >>hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world leaders >>out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the helm of >>a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage?
Tony
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You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National
Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate fraud.
Bill.
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other than inept.
dot nz> wrote:
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly full ofhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world leaders >>>out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the helm of
a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage?
Tony
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You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National
Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate fraud.
Bill.
Tony
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netof
dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly full
ofhate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world leaders
out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the helm
Nonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other than inept. >>a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage?
Tony
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You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National
Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate fraud.
Bill.
Tony
Your attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again, Tony.
It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot
and an idiot.
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USA
pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to
the "claimate fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence of
climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as inept
and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be used
to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where you
disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>dot nz> wrote:Nonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other than inept.
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly full >>>>ofhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world >>>>leaders
out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the helm >>>>of
a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage? >>>>Tony
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You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National >>>Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate fraud.
Bill.
Tony
Your attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again, Tony.There is no logic to that failed attempt to have a go at me, something you have tried many times and always with the same degree of abject failure.
It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost >certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot
and an idiot.
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USAYou really are a patronising clod; just like Trump you have no ethics and stuff all intellect.
pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to
the "claimate (sic) fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence of >climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as inept
and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be used
to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where you
disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:full
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>dot nz> wrote:
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearlyhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
helmof
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world >>>>leaders
out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the
Nonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other than inept. >>of
a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage? >>>>Tony
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You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National >>>Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate fraud.
Bill.
Tony
haveYour attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again, Tony.There is no logic to that failed attempt to have a go at me, something you
It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost >certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot
and an idiot.
tried many times and always with the same degree of abject failure.stuff
The difference between yourself and me is profound; I have ethics but I doubt
that you can even spell the word let alone practice it. Your record in this newsgroup, and almost certainly everywhere else, is indefensible.
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USA
pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to
the "claimate (sic) fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence of >climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as inept
and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be used
to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where youYou really are a patronising clod; just like Trump you have no ethics and
disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.
all intellect.with
Oh please do not tell me that I am resorting to abuse; you are by a country mile the most abusive poster to this group - you are a past master at lies, sarcasm, innuendo and other primary school tactics. I am merely responding to
your abusiveness.
I feel genuinely sorry for all of the people you have deliberately and maliciously hurt here and elsewhere, and no doubt for your entire worthless life. Your empathy for real people trying to do good is non-existent. You clearly, and without doubt, incorrectly believe that anybody who disagrees
you deserves contempt and yet you complain that other people have a go at you-
why would that surprise you, after all you nearly always display yourself asa
dreadful example of a human being.
Don't you dare judge me, that would require you to have integrity which is patently not the case. What a sad person you are!
On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 12:21:48 PM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.comwrote:
fullRich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>>dot nz> wrote:
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearlyhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
helmof
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world >>>>leaders
out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the
inept.Nonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other thanof
a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage? >>>>Tony
---
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You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National >>>Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate fraud. >>>
Bill.
Tony
haveYour attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again, Tony.There is no logic to that failed attempt to have a go at me, something you
It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost >certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot
and an idiot.
doubttried many times and always with the same degree of abject failure.
The difference between yourself and me is profound; I have ethics but I
stuffthat you can even spell the word let alone practice it. Your record in this
newsgroup, and almost certainly everywhere else, is indefensible.
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USA >pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to
the "claimate (sic) fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence of >climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as inept
and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be used
to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where you >disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.You really are a patronising clod; just like Trump you have no ethics and
toall intellect.
Oh please do not tell me that I am resorting to abuse; you are by a country
mile the most abusive poster to this group - you are a past master at lies,
sarcasm, innuendo and other primary school tactics. I am merely responding
withyour abusiveness.
I feel genuinely sorry for all of the people you have deliberately and maliciously hurt here and elsewhere, and no doubt for your entire worthless
life. Your empathy for real people trying to do good is non-existent. You clearly, and without doubt, incorrectly believe that anybody who disagrees
you -you deserves contempt and yet you complain that other people have a go at
as awhy would that surprise you, after all you nearly always display yourself
dreadful example of a human being.
Don't you dare judge me, that would require you to have integrity which is patently not the case. What a sad person you are!
All of which may well have some merit.worse, supplies this group with more topics - worthy or otherwise - than any other poster; but also that you allow yourself to keep company with others caught in the "Rich"
But you too easily forget that, not only is it "Rich" who, for better or for
In fact, your own reflex invective towards him only gives him furtheropportunities to goad. He baits, you bite. Every time.
So ask yourself: who's really pulling who's chain, eh? And how do you feelabout that?
What you might also consider is this: why indulge him when your overwroughtefforts amount to little more than self-flagellation?
More than year ago I told you that your efforts in the "Rich" arena mightwell be worthy, but, ultimately, futile.
So, as you read this, how much less futile do your efforts feel now thanhitherto?
On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 12:21:48 PM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:a
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netThere is no logic to that failed attempt to have a go at me, something you have
dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netNonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other than inept. >> >>
dot nz> wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly full
of
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world
leaders
out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the helm
of
a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage?
Tony
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com
You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National
Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate fraud.
Bill.
Tony
Your attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again, Tony.
It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost
certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot
and an idiot.
tried many times and always with the same degree of abject failure.
The difference between yourself and me is profound; I have ethics but I doubt
that you can even spell the word let alone practice it. Your record in this >> newsgroup, and almost certainly everywhere else, is indefensible.
You really are a patronising clod; just like Trump you have no ethics and stuff
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USA
pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to
the "claimate (sic) fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence of
climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as inept
and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be used
to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where you
disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.
all intellect.
Oh please do not tell me that I am resorting to abuse; you are by a country >> mile the most abusive poster to this group - you are a past master at lies, >> sarcasm, innuendo and other primary school tactics. I am merely responding to
your abusiveness.
I feel genuinely sorry for all of the people you have deliberately and
maliciously hurt here and elsewhere, and no doubt for your entire worthless >> life. Your empathy for real people trying to do good is non-existent. You
clearly, and without doubt, incorrectly believe that anybody who disagrees with
you deserves contempt and yet you complain that other people have a go at you -
why would that surprise you, after all you nearly always display yourself as
dreadful example of a human being.
Don't you dare judge me, that would require you to have integrity which is >> patently not the case. What a sad person you are!
All of which may well have some merit.honeypot that compels you so fruitlessly to engage with him.
But you too easily forget that, not only is it "Rich" who, for better or for worse, supplies this group with more topics - worthy or otherwise - than any other poster; but also that you allow yourself to keep company with others caught in the "Rich"
In fact, your own reflex invective towards him only gives him further opportunities to goad. He baits, you bite. Every time. So ask yourself: who's really pulling who's chain, eh? And how do you feel about that?be worthy, but, ultimately, futile.
What you might also consider is this: why indulge him when your overwrought efforts amount to little more than self-flagellation?
More than year ago I told you that your efforts in the "Rich" arena might well
So, as you read this, how much less futile do your efforts feel now than hitherto?
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netThere is no logic to that failed attempt to have a go at me, something you >>have
dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Nonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other than inept. >> >>He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearlyhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
full
of
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world
leaders
out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the
helm
of
a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage?
Tony
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com
You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National
Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate fraud.
Bill.
Tony
Your attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again, Tony.
It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost
certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot
and an idiot.
tried many times and always with the same degree of abject failure.
The difference between yourself and me is profound; I have ethics but I >>doubt
that you can even spell the word let alone practice it. Your record in this >> newsgroup, and almost certainly everywhere else, is indefensible.
You really are a patronising clod; just like Trump you have no ethics and >>stuff
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USA
pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to
the "claimate (sic) fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence of
climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as inept
and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be used
to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where you
disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.
all intellect.
Oh please do not tell me that I am resorting to abuse; you are by a country >> mile the most abusive poster to this group - you are a past master at lies, >> sarcasm, innuendo and other primary school tactics. I am merely responding >>to
your abusiveness.
I feel genuinely sorry for all of the people you have deliberately and
maliciously hurt here and elsewhere, and no doubt for your entire worthless >> life. Your empathy for real people trying to do good is non-existent. You
clearly, and without doubt, incorrectly believe that anybody who disagrees >>with
you deserves contempt and yet you complain that other people have a go at >>you -
why would that surprise you, after all you nearly always display yourself as >>a
dreadful example of a human being.
Don't you dare judge me, that would require you to have integrity which is >> patently not the case. What a sad person you are!
All of which may well have some merit.I commend to you what JohnO has written so well, and for emphasis I remind you of the famous line "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing". Some say that this came from Edmund Burke, and others disagree but I don't give a fat rat's bum who wrote it because it is as true an observation as any I have ever read.
But you too easily forget that, not only is it "Rich" who, for better or for >worse, supplies this group with more topics - worthy or otherwise - than any >other poster; but also that you allow yourself to keep company with others >caught in the "Rich" honeypot that compels you so fruitlessly to engage with >him.
In fact, your own reflex invective towards him only gives him further >opportunities to goad. He baits, you bite. Every time. So ask yourself: >who's really pulling who's chain, eh? And how do you feel about that?
What you might also consider is this: why indulge him when your overwrought >efforts amount to little more than self-flagellation?
More than year ago I told you that your efforts in the "Rich" arena might well >be worthy, but, ultimately, futile.
So, as you read this, how much less futile do your efforts feel now than >hitherto?
Interestingly I believe that you and I do not agree on the "global warming" debate. I am prepared to debate it but tend not to because it is moot!On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 12:21:48 PM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com >>wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netThere is no logic to that failed attempt to have a go at me, something you >> >have
dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >> > >>>dot nz> wrote:
Nonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other thanHe is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly >> > >>>>fullhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
of
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world >> > >>>>leaders
out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the >> > >>>>helm
of
a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage? >> > >>>>Tony
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You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National
Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate fraud. >> > >>>
Bill.
inept.
Tony
Your attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again, Tony.
It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost
certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot
and an idiot.
tried many times and always with the same degree of abject failure.
The difference between yourself and me is profound; I have ethics but I
doubt
that you can even spell the word let alone practice it. Your record in
this
newsgroup, and almost certainly everywhere else, is indefensible.
You really are a patronising clod; just like Trump you have no ethics and >> >stuff
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USA
pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to
the "claimate (sic) fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence of
climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as inept
and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be used
to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where you
disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.
all intellect.
Oh please do not tell me that I am resorting to abuse; you are by a
country
mile the most abusive poster to this group - you are a past master at
lies,
sarcasm, innuendo and other primary school tactics. I am merely responding >> >to
your abusiveness.
I feel genuinely sorry for all of the people you have deliberately and
maliciously hurt here and elsewhere, and no doubt for your entire
worthless
life. Your empathy for real people trying to do good is non-existent. You >> > clearly, and without doubt, incorrectly believe that anybody who disagrees >> >with
you deserves contempt and yet you complain that other people have a go at >> >you -
why would that surprise you, after all you nearly always display yourself >> >as a
dreadful example of a human being.
Don't you dare judge me, that would require you to have integrity which is >> > patently not the case. What a sad person you are!
All of which may well have some merit.
But you too easily forget that, not only is it "Rich" who, for better or for >>worse, supplies this group with more topics - worthy or otherwise - than any >>other poster; but also that you allow yourself to keep company with others >>caught in the "Rich" honeypot that compels you so fruitlessly to engage with >>him.
In fact, your own reflex invective towards him only gives him further >>opportunities to goad. He baits, you bite. Every time.
No - you've jumped unthinkingly to that conclusion as it suits your own >perspective.
"Rich" does not engage as that would require carefully reading, thinking and >then writing. "Rich" just pours out by rote - no thought required nor employed.
So ask yourself: who's really pulling who's chain, eh? And how do you feel >>about that?
What you might also consider is this: why indulge him when your overwrought >>efforts amount to little more than self-flagellation?
I'd say it's for the benefit of the wider readership.
More than year ago I told you that your efforts in the "Rich" arena might >>well be worthy, but, ultimately, futile.
So, as you read this, how much less futile do your efforts feel now than >>hitherto?
Tony's doing a good job. The fact that many of your own prejudices align >nicely with "Rich" is getting in your own way. Keith.
All of which may well have some merit.worse, supplies this group with more topics - worthy or otherwise - than any other poster; but also that you allow yourself to keep company with others caught in the "Rich"
But you too easily forget that, not only is it "Rich" who, for better or for
In fact, your own reflex invective towards him only gives him furtheropportunities to goad. He baits, you bite. Every time. So ask yourself: who's really pulling who's chain, eh? And how do you feel about that?
What you might also consider is this: why indulge him when your overwroughtefforts amount to little more than self-flagellation?
More than year ago I told you that your efforts in the "Rich" arena mightwell be worthy, but, ultimately, futile.
So, as you read this, how much less futile do your efforts feel now thanhitherto?
On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 21:21:20 -0700 (PDT), jmschristophers@gmail.comHow silly. Of course I do not believe I have the only legitimate view of anything (at all).
wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 12:21:48 PM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com >>wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netThere is no logic to that failed attempt to have a go at me, something you >>>have
dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >>> >>>dot nz> wrote:
Nonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other than inept.He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and clearly >>> >>>>fullhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
of
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world >>> >>>>leaders
out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at the >>> >>>>helm
of
a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage? >>> >>>>Tony
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You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National
Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate fraud. >>> >>>
Bill.
Tony
Your attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again, Tony.
It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost
certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot
and an idiot.
tried many times and always with the same degree of abject failure.
The difference between yourself and me is profound; I have ethics but I >>>doubt
that you can even spell the word let alone practice it. Your record in this >>> newsgroup, and almost certainly everywhere else, is indefensible.
You really are a patronising clod; just like Trump you have no ethics and >>>stuff
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USA
pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to
the "claimate (sic) fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence of
climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as inept
and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be used
to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where you
disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.
all intellect.
Oh please do not tell me that I am resorting to abuse; you are by a country >>> mile the most abusive poster to this group - you are a past master at lies, >>> sarcasm, innuendo and other primary school tactics. I am merely responding >>>to
your abusiveness.
I feel genuinely sorry for all of the people you have deliberately and
maliciously hurt here and elsewhere, and no doubt for your entire worthless >>> life. Your empathy for real people trying to do good is non-existent. You >>> clearly, and without doubt, incorrectly believe that anybody who disagrees >>>with
you deserves contempt and yet you complain that other people have a go at >>>you -
why would that surprise you, after all you nearly always display yourself >>>as a
dreadful example of a human being.
Don't you dare judge me, that would require you to have integrity which is >>> patently not the case. What a sad person you are!
All of which may well have some merit.
But you too easily forget that, not only is it "Rich" who, for better or for >>worse, supplies this group with more topics - worthy or otherwise - than any >>other poster; but also that you allow yourself to keep company with others >>caught in the "Rich" honeypot that compels you so fruitlessly to engage with >>him.
In fact, your own reflex invective towards him only gives him further >>opportunities to goad. He baits, you bite. Every time. So ask yourself: >>who's really pulling who's chain, eh? And how do you feel about that?
What you might also consider is this: why indulge him when your overwrought >>efforts amount to little more than self-flagellation?
More than year ago I told you that your efforts in the "Rich" arena might >>well be worthy, but, ultimately, futile.
So, as you read this, how much less futile do your efforts feel now than >>hitherto?
Tony believes he has the only legitimate view of Trump - and even when
others share at least part of his biews he cannot help himself by
attacking rather than addressing the issue. In this case, having
started the thread, he has consistently attacked all other postersso
far, using vitriolic language that far exceeeds anyone else in abuse
and disrespect. It appears part of the polarisation of views that has
been encouraged by he right in America - they are now reaping the
rewards with a creature of their own making; Tony wants to do the same
with nz.general.
On Tue, 6 Jun 2017 21:21:20 -0700 (PDT), jmschristophers@gmail.comagain
wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 12:21:48 PM UTC+12,
nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot
net dot nz> wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london- terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-
There is no logic to that failed attempt to have a go at me, somethingNonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other thanHe is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad and
clearly full of hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself,
pushes other world leaders out of the way and fires anybody who
disagrees with him remain at the helm of a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the
courage?
Tony
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You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National
Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate
fraud.
Bill.
inept.
Tony
Your attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again,
Tony.
It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost
certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot
and an idiot.
you have tried many times and always with the same degree of abject
failure.
The difference between yourself and me is profound; I have ethics but
I doubt that you can even spell the word let alone practice it. Your
record in this newsgroup, and almost certainly everywhere else, is
indefensible.
You really are a patronising clod; just like Trump you have no ethics
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USA
pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to
the "claimate (sic) fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence
of climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as
inept and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be
used to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where you
disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.
and stuff all intellect.
Oh please do not tell me that I am resorting to abuse; you are by a
country mile the most abusive poster to this group - you are a past
master at lies, sarcasm, innuendo and other primary school tactics. I
am merely responding to your abusiveness.
I feel genuinely sorry for all of the people you have deliberately and
maliciously hurt here and elsewhere, and no doubt for your entire
worthless life. Your empathy for real people trying to do good is
non-existent. You clearly, and without doubt, incorrectly believe that
anybody who disagrees with you deserves contempt and yet you complain
that other people have a go at you -
why would that surprise you, after all you nearly always display
yourself as a dreadful example of a human being.
Don't you dare judge me, that would require you to have integrity
which is patently not the case. What a sad person you are!
All of which may well have some merit.
But you too easily forget that, not only is it "Rich" who, for better or >>for worse, supplies this group with more topics - worthy or otherwise - >>than any other poster; but also that you allow yourself to keep company >>with others caught in the "Rich" honeypot that compels you so
fruitlessly to engage with him.
In fact, your own reflex invective towards him only gives him further >>opportunities to goad. He baits, you bite. Every time. So ask
yourself: who's really pulling who's chain, eh? And how do you feel
about that?
What you might also consider is this: why indulge him when your
overwrought efforts amount to little more than self-flagellation?
More than year ago I told you that your efforts in the "Rich" arena
might well be worthy, but, ultimately, futile.
So, as you read this, how much less futile do your efforts feel now than >>hitherto?
Tony believes he has the only legitimate view of Trump - and even when
others share at least part of his biews he cannot help himself by
attacking rather than addressing the issue. In this case, having started
the thread, he has consistently attacked all other postersso far, using vitriolic language that far exceeeds anyone else in abuse and
disrespect. It appears part of the polarisation of views that has been encouraged by he right in America - they are now reaping the rewards
with a creature of their own making; Tony wants to do the same with nz.general.
JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:net
On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:21:21 UTC+12, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 12:21:48 PM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com >>wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >> > >dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot
clearlydot nz> wrote:
He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad andhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
thefull
of
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other world
leaders
out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at
fraud.helm
of
a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage? >> > >>>>Tony
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
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You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National
Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate
youThere is no logic to that failed attempt to have a go at me, somethingNonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other than >> > >>inept.
Bill.
Tony
Your attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again, Tony. >> > >It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost
certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot >> > >and an idiot.
andhave
tried many times and always with the same degree of abject failure.
The difference between yourself and me is profound; I have ethics but I >> >doubt
that you can even spell the word let alone practice it. Your record in >> >this
newsgroup, and almost certainly everywhere else, is indefensible.
You really are a patronising clod; just like Trump you have no ethics
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USA
pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to >> > >the "claimate (sic) fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence of >> > >climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as inept >> > >and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be used
to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where you
disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.
respondingstuff
all intellect.
Oh please do not tell me that I am resorting to abuse; you are by a
country
mile the most abusive poster to this group - you are a past master at >> >lies,
sarcasm, innuendo and other primary school tactics. I am merely
Youto
your abusiveness.
I feel genuinely sorry for all of the people you have deliberately and >> > maliciously hurt here and elsewhere, and no doubt for your entire
worthless
life. Your empathy for real people trying to do good is non-existent.
disagreesclearly, and without doubt, incorrectly believe that anybody who
atwith
you deserves contempt and yet you complain that other people have a go
yourselfyou -
why would that surprise you, after all you nearly always display
isas a
dreadful example of a human being.
Don't you dare judge me, that would require you to have integrity which
forpatently not the case. What a sad person you are!
All of which may well have some merit.
But you too easily forget that, not only is it "Rich" who, for better or
anyworse, supplies this group with more topics - worthy or otherwise - than
withother poster; but also that you allow yourself to keep company with others >>caught in the "Rich" honeypot that compels you so fruitlessly to engage
employed.him.
In fact, your own reflex invective towards him only gives him further >>opportunities to goad. He baits, you bite. Every time.
No - you've jumped unthinkingly to that conclusion as it suits your own >perspective.
"Rich" does not engage as that would require carefully reading, thinking and
then writing. "Rich" just pours out by rote - no thought required nor
feelSo ask yourself: who's really pulling who's chain, eh? And how do you
overwroughtabout that?
What you might also consider is this: why indulge him when your
efforts amount to little more than self-flagellation?
I'd say it's for the benefit of the wider readership.
More than year ago I told you that your efforts in the "Rich" arena might >>well be worthy, but, ultimately, futile.
So, as you read this, how much less futile do your efforts feel now than >>hitherto?
Tony's doing a good job. The fact that many of your own prejudices align >nicely with "Rich" is getting in your own way. Keith.Interestingly I believe that you and I do not agree on the "global warming" debate.
I am prepared to debate it but tend not to because it is moot!
Glabal warming is either real or not, but the entrenched views of those that believe in it or do not are such that we simply have to wait and see.
Thanks for your understanding.
Tony
The whole debate sees science being smothered by politics. As I postedelsewhere I think Trump did the right thing by pulling out of the Paris accord.
I have misunderstood your position, I think we agree.JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, 7 June 2017 16:21:21 UTC+12, jmschri...@gmail.com wrote:
Interestingly I believe that you and I do not agree on the "global warming" >> debate.On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 at 12:21:48 PM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com >> >>wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:14:08 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net >> >> > >dot nz> wrote:
BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
hOn Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:24:05 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot >> >> > >>>net
dot nz> wrote:
There is no logic to that failed attempt to have a go at me, something >> >> >youNonsense, only bigots and idiots think Trump is anything other than >> >> > >>inept.He is not just out of control, he is almost certainly mad andhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/93340233/with-his-london-terror-attack-tweets-donald-trump-embarrasses-himself--and-america--once-again
clearly
full
of
hate. How can someone who thinks only of himself, pushes other
world
leaders
out of the way and fires anybody who disagrees with him remain at >> >> > >>>>the
helm
of
a
country that believes it is a democracy (it isn't of course!)?
Time he was impeached but will the "establishment" find the courage?
Tony
---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com
You are as deranged about Trump as Rich80105 is about the National >> >> > >>>Party..
God bless President Trump for pulling the US out of the climate
fraud.
Bill.
Tony
Your attempt at a scathing put-down has got away from you again, Tony. >> >> > >It is of course possible to be inept and still make a correct
political decision but your statement appears to indicate that the
poster who described Trump as "not just out of control, he is almost >> >> > >certainly mad and clearly full of hate." must in your view be a bigot >> >> > >and an idiot.
have
tried many times and always with the same degree of abject failure.
The difference between yourself and me is profound; I have ethics but I >> >> >doubt
that you can even spell the word let alone practice it. Your record in >> >> >this
newsgroup, and almost certainly everywhere else, is indefensible.
You really are a patronising clod; just like Trump you have no ethics >> >> >and
As it happens I disagree with Bill's implicit approval for the USA
pulling out of the Paris agreement (which is not of course related to >> >> > >the "claimate (sic) fraud"of the deniers of the scientific evidence of >> >> > >climate change), and I do agree with your descritions of him as inept >> >> > >and out of control; and thre are many other words that could be used >> >> > >to describe Trump.
Try looking for where you agree with people rather than where you
disagree - you may be surprised how often your views are shared.
stuff
all intellect.
Oh please do not tell me that I am resorting to abuse; you are by a
country
mile the most abusive poster to this group - you are a past master at >> >> >lies,
sarcasm, innuendo and other primary school tactics. I am merely
responding
to
your abusiveness.
I feel genuinely sorry for all of the people you have deliberately and >> >> > maliciously hurt here and elsewhere, and no doubt for your entire
worthless
life. Your empathy for real people trying to do good is non-existent. >> >> >You
clearly, and without doubt, incorrectly believe that anybody who
disagrees
with
you deserves contempt and yet you complain that other people have a go >> >> >at
you -
why would that surprise you, after all you nearly always display
yourself
as a
dreadful example of a human being.
Don't you dare judge me, that would require you to have integrity which >> >> >is
patently not the case. What a sad person you are!
All of which may well have some merit.
But you too easily forget that, not only is it "Rich" who, for better or >> >>for
worse, supplies this group with more topics - worthy or otherwise - than >> >>any
other poster; but also that you allow yourself to keep company with others >> >>caught in the "Rich" honeypot that compels you so fruitlessly to engage
with
him.
In fact, your own reflex invective towards him only gives him further
opportunities to goad. He baits, you bite. Every time.
No - you've jumped unthinkingly to that conclusion as it suits your own
perspective.
"Rich" does not engage as that would require carefully reading, thinking
and
then writing. "Rich" just pours out by rote - no thought required nor
employed.
So ask yourself: who's really pulling who's chain, eh? And how do you >> >>feel
about that?
What you might also consider is this: why indulge him when your
overwrought
efforts amount to little more than self-flagellation?
I'd say it's for the benefit of the wider readership.
More than year ago I told you that your efforts in the "Rich" arena might >> >>well be worthy, but, ultimately, futile.
So, as you read this, how much less futile do your efforts feel now than >> >>hitherto?
Tony's doing a good job. The fact that many of your own prejudices align
nicely with "Rich" is getting in your own way. Keith.
Really? I'm very skeptical of the "science is settled" claim and anyone who >makes it as the science is clearly not settled. I'm automatically skeptical of >any faction that attempts to suppress debate. Both of these attributes are >displayed by some of the AGW groups.
On the subject of man-made contribution to *climate change*, I tend to agree >with the IPCC that man-made pollution does contribute to climate change. >However the question is how much and that is not settled.
The whole debate sees science being smothered by politics. As I posted >elsewhere I think Trump did the right thing by pulling out of the Paris accord.
The USA is probably the only country that is steadily reducing >its emissions, >and China is the world's worst polluter, yet this accord benefits China over >the USA. What a crock.
I am prepared to debate it but tend not to because it is moot!
Glabal warming is either real or not, but the entrenched views of those that >> believe in it or do not are such that we simply have to wait and see.
Thanks for your understanding.
Tony
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