• And two more video stories

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Monday, May 01, 2017 10:23:35
    Open and honest - Naah . . . http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/04/video-inside-the-pike-river-mine-what-police-never-showed-the-families.html

    and on a different topic, more deliberate dishonesty -a worldwide
    deception from the right: https://www.facebook.com/NickHanauer/videos/1120039824735135/
    and confirmation that National Party policy has supported the
    deception: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91990768/the-9th-floor-jenny-shipley-new-zealands-first-woman-prime-minister
    Listen from 7:30 for a horror of the sort of debt that NAtional is now
    wracking up, and then from 8:20 for her policies

    for a blunt assessment read: http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/04/fuck-jenny-shipley.html

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, April 30, 2017 15:40:34
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:23:29 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    Open and honest - Naah . . . http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/04/video-inside-the-pike-river-mine-what-police-never-showed-the-families.html

    and on a different topic, more deliberate dishonesty -a worldwide
    deception from the right: https://www.facebook.com/NickHanauer/videos/1120039824735135/
    and confirmation that National Party policy has supported the
    deception: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91990768/the-9th-floor-jenny-shipley-new-zealands-first-woman-prime-minister
    Listen from 7:30 for a horror of the sort of debt that NAtional is now wracking up, and then from 8:20 for her policies

    for a blunt assessment read: http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/04/fuck-jenny-shipley.html

    This Newshub story would be the most flagrantly dishonest thing I've ever seen from them.

    It shows the robot's progress deep into the drift, then shows engineers working
    on the robot.
    However the view of the engineers is out of chronological sequence. The time stamp clearly shows the engineers were working before any of the progress shown
    up the drift.
    Newshub were trying to infer the engineers were deep into the drift. There is nothing to suggest they weren't at the portal. In fact the structure of the walls suggests that is exactly where they were.
    No surprises that the resident lefty dimbulb lapped it all up.
    The fact that robots were sent up the drift and captured video is old news. As is the fact that the robots all died getting into the drift. Yet the fuckwit lefties want to send humans in there, for the sole purpose of seeing nothing? Idiots.

    And Dickbot, you regularly whinge if someone posts opinion from Kiwiblog. How you can hold a straight face and post norightturn is a mystery. Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to JohnO on Monday, May 01, 2017 11:28:53
    On 5/1/2017 10:40 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:23:29 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    Open and honest - Naah . . .
    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/04/video-inside-the-pike-river-mine-what-police-never-showed-the-families.html

    and on a different topic, more deliberate dishonesty -a worldwide
    deception from the right:
    https://www.facebook.com/NickHanauer/videos/1120039824735135/
    and confirmation that National Party policy has supported the
    deception:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91990768/the-9th-floor-jenny-shipley-new-zealands-first-woman-prime-minister
    Listen from 7:30 for a horror of the sort of debt that NAtional is now
    wracking up, and then from 8:20 for her policies

    for a blunt assessment read:
    http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/04/fuck-jenny-shipley.html

    This Newshub story would be the most flagrantly dishonest thing I've ever
    seen from them.

    It shows the robot's progress deep into the drift, then shows engineers
    working on the robot.
    However the view of the engineers is out of chronological sequence. The time
    stamp clearly shows the engineers were working before any of the progress shown
    up the drift.
    Newshub were trying to infer the engineers were deep into the drift. There is
    nothing to suggest they weren't at the portal. In fact the structure of the walls suggests that is exactly where they were.
    No surprises that the resident lefty dimbulb lapped it all up.
    The fact that robots were sent up the drift and captured video is old news.
    As is the fact that the robots all died getting into the drift. Yet the fuckwit
    lefties want to send humans in there, for the sole purpose of seeing nothing? Idiots.

    And Dickbot, you regularly whinge if someone posts opinion from Kiwiblog. How
    you can hold a straight face and post norightturn is a mystery. Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.

    Whats new. The left lie.
    Not a new thing.
    Why do we call it fake news?
    Well, because it is

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Monday, May 01, 2017 20:01:06
    On 1/05/2017 10:23 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    Open and honest - Naah . . . http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/04/video-inside-the-pike-river-mine-what-police-never-showed-the-families.html

    and on a different topic, more deliberate dishonesty -a worldwide
    deception from the right: https://www.facebook.com/NickHanauer/videos/1120039824735135/
    and confirmation that National Party policy has supported the
    deception: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91990768/the-9th-floor-jenny-shipley-new-zealands-first-woman-prime-minister
    Listen from 7:30 for a horror of the sort of debt that NAtional is now wracking up, and then from 8:20 for her policies

    for a blunt assessment read: http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/04/fuck-jenny-shipley.html


    Problem with that debt Rich is that it's been built on Labours ill
    conceived political bribe WFF.

    As to the rest. Can't you find any reputable sites rather than rely on
    your fellow Labour party political broadcasts?

    Pooh

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to JohnO on Monday, May 01, 2017 15:37:16
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:40:36 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:23:29 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    Open and honest - Naah . . . http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/04/video-inside-the-pike-river-mine-what-police-never-showed-the-families.html

    and on a different topic, more deliberate dishonesty -a worldwide
    deception from the right: https://www.facebook.com/NickHanauer/videos/1120039824735135/
    and confirmation that National Party policy has supported the
    deception: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91990768/the-9th-floor-jenny-shipley-new-zealands-first-woman-prime-minister
    Listen from 7:30 for a horror of the sort of debt that NAtional is now wracking up, and then from 8:20 for her policies

    for a blunt assessment read: http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/04/fuck-jenny-shipley.html

    This Newshub story would be the most flagrantly dishonest thing I've ever
    seen from them.

    It shows the robot's progress deep into the drift, then shows engineers
    working on the robot.
    However the view of the engineers is out of chronological sequence. The time
    stamp clearly shows the engineers were working before any of the progress shown
    up the drift.
    Newshub were trying to infer the engineers were deep into the drift. There is
    nothing to suggest they weren't at the portal. In fact the structure of the walls suggests that is exactly where they were.
    No surprises that the resident lefty dimbulb lapped it all up.
    The fact that robots were sent up the drift and captured video is old news.
    As is the fact that the robots all died getting into the drift. Yet the fuckwit
    lefties want to send humans in there, for the sole purpose of seeing nothing? Idiots.

    And Dickbot, you regularly whinge if someone posts opinion from Kiwiblog. How
    you can hold a straight face and post norightturn is a mystery. Your hypocrisy is breathtaking.

    And the Newshub story, along with the bleating by the useful idiots of the left, is officially busted as a lie.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1705/S00014/pike-river-video-footage.htm

    The sad thing is that the Pike River families are being swept along by this dishonesty.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to JohnO on Monday, May 01, 2017 21:57:06
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:40:36 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:23:29 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    Open and honest - Naah . . .

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/04/video-inside-the-pike-river-mine-what-police-never-showed-the-families.html

    and on a different topic, more deliberate dishonesty -a worldwide
    deception from the right:
    https://www.facebook.com/NickHanauer/videos/1120039824735135/
    and confirmation that National Party policy has supported the
    deception:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91990768/the-9th-floor-jenny-shipley-new-zealands-first-woman-prime-minister
    Listen from 7:30 for a horror of the sort of debt that NAtional is now
    wracking up, and then from 8:20 for her policies

    for a blunt assessment read:
    http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/04/fuck-jenny-shipley.html

    This Newshub story would be the most flagrantly dishonest thing I've ever >>seen from them.

    It shows the robot's progress deep into the drift, then shows engineers >>working on the robot.
    However the view of the engineers is out of chronological sequence. The time >>stamp clearly shows the engineers were working before any of the progress shown
    up the drift.
    Newshub were trying to infer the engineers were deep into the drift. There >>is nothing to suggest they weren't at the portal. In fact the structure of the
    walls suggests that is exactly where they were.
    No surprises that the resident lefty dimbulb lapped it all up.
    The fact that robots were sent up the drift and captured video is old news. >>As is the fact that the robots all died getting into the drift. Yet the fuckwit
    lefties want to send humans in there, for the sole purpose of seeing nothing? >>Idiots.

    And Dickbot, you regularly whinge if someone posts opinion from Kiwiblog. >>How you can hold a straight face and post norightturn is a mystery. Your >>hypocrisy is breathtaking.

    And the Newshub story, along with the bleating by the useful idiots of the >left, is officially busted as a lie.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1705/S00014/pike-river-video-footage.htm

    The sad thing is that the Pike River families are being swept along by this >dishonesty.
    These pricks are a disgrace, they have dragged the poor families into even more despair by falsely raising their hopes. Shame on them all.
    Tony

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to nor...@googlegroups.com on Monday, May 01, 2017 20:27:46
    On Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:57:11 UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:40:36 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:23:29 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    Open and honest - Naah . . .

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/04/video-inside-the-pike-river-mine-what-police-never-showed-the-families.html

    and on a different topic, more deliberate dishonesty -a worldwide
    deception from the right:
    https://www.facebook.com/NickHanauer/videos/1120039824735135/
    and confirmation that National Party policy has supported the
    deception:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91990768/the-9th-floor-jenny-shipley-new-zealands-first-woman-prime-minister
    Listen from 7:30 for a horror of the sort of debt that NAtional is now >> > wracking up, and then from 8:20 for her policies

    for a blunt assessment read:
    http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/04/fuck-jenny-shipley.html

    This Newshub story would be the most flagrantly dishonest thing I've ever >>seen from them.

    It shows the robot's progress deep into the drift, then shows engineers >>working on the robot.
    However the view of the engineers is out of chronological sequence. The
    time
    stamp clearly shows the engineers were working before any of the progress
    shown
    up the drift.
    Newshub were trying to infer the engineers were deep into the drift. There >>is nothing to suggest they weren't at the portal. In fact the structure of
    the
    walls suggests that is exactly where they were.
    No surprises that the resident lefty dimbulb lapped it all up.
    The fact that robots were sent up the drift and captured video is old
    news.
    As is the fact that the robots all died getting into the drift. Yet the
    fuckwit
    lefties want to send humans in there, for the sole purpose of seeing
    nothing?
    Idiots.

    And Dickbot, you regularly whinge if someone posts opinion from Kiwiblog. >>How you can hold a straight face and post norightturn is a mystery. Your >>hypocrisy is breathtaking.

    And the Newshub story, along with the bleating by the useful idiots of the >left, is officially busted as a lie.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1705/S00014/pike-river-video-footage.htm

    The sad thing is that the Pike River families are being swept along by this >dishonesty.
    These pricks are a disgrace, they have dragged the poor families into even
    more
    despair by falsely raising their hopes. Shame on them all.
    Tony

    Yep. Audrey Young gets it, even if it was a couple of days later than my own observations:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11848325

    "The Sunday night airing of footage of a robot in the Piker River Mine drift along with two Mines Rescue personnel was recklessly misleading.

    It has almost certainly led to further distress for Pike River families who may
    have believed something had happened in the drift that had never happened before.

    The sequence of footage and commentary left the clear impression that rescuers had gone deep into the drift safely.

    It showed a robot going 1.57km into the tunnel, passing a couple of obstacles at least 800m in, breaking down and then being fixed by Mines Rescue personnel deep inside the mine until it came upon a loader and could go no further.

    It is possible those running the footage on Newshub didn't know what they were looking at, and either made assumptions or decided to create an impression.

    That worked very well. It left a false impression that Mines Rescue had been far deeper into the mine than anybody had ever known."

    Either Paddy Gower is a dumb shit or he's a lying shit.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to JohnO on Monday, May 01, 2017 23:06:39
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:57:11 UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:40:36 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:23:29 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    Open and honest - Naah . . .


    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/04/video-inside-the-pike-river-mine-what-police-never-showed-the-families.html

    and on a different topic, more deliberate dishonesty -a worldwide
    deception from the right:
    https://www.facebook.com/NickHanauer/videos/1120039824735135/
    and confirmation that National Party policy has supported the
    deception:


    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91990768/the-9th-floor-jenny-shipley-new-zealands-first-woman-prime-minister
    Listen from 7:30 for a horror of the sort of debt that NAtional is now >> >> > wracking up, and then from 8:20 for her policies

    for a blunt assessment read:
    http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/04/fuck-jenny-shipley.html

    This Newshub story would be the most flagrantly dishonest thing I've ever >> >>seen from them.

    It shows the robot's progress deep into the drift, then shows engineers >> >>working on the robot.
    However the view of the engineers is out of chronological sequence. The >> >>time
    stamp clearly shows the engineers were working before any of the progress >> >>shown
    up the drift.
    Newshub were trying to infer the engineers were deep into the drift.
    There
    is nothing to suggest they weren't at the portal. In fact the structure of >> >>the
    walls suggests that is exactly where they were.
    No surprises that the resident lefty dimbulb lapped it all up.
    The fact that robots were sent up the drift and captured video is old
    news.
    As is the fact that the robots all died getting into the drift. Yet the
    fuckwit
    lefties want to send humans in there, for the sole purpose of seeing
    nothing?
    Idiots.

    And Dickbot, you regularly whinge if someone posts opinion from Kiwiblog. >> >>How you can hold a straight face and post norightturn is a mystery. Your >> >>hypocrisy is breathtaking.

    And the Newshub story, along with the bleating by the useful idiots of the >> >left, is officially busted as a lie.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1705/S00014/pike-river-video-footage.htm >> >
    The sad thing is that the Pike River families are being swept along by this >> >dishonesty.
    These pricks are a disgrace, they have dragged the poor families into even >>more
    despair by falsely raising their hopes. Shame on them all.
    Tony

    Yep. Audrey Young gets it, even if it was a couple of days later than my own >observations:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11848325

    "The Sunday night airing of footage of a robot in the Piker River Mine drift >along with two Mines Rescue personnel was recklessly misleading.

    It has almost certainly led to further distress for Pike River families who >may have believed something had happened in the drift that had never happened >before.

    The sequence of footage and commentary left the clear impression that rescuers >had gone deep into the drift safely.

    It showed a robot going 1.57km into the tunnel, passing a couple of obstacles >at least 800m in, breaking down and then being fixed by Mines Rescue personnel >deep inside the mine until it came upon a loader and could go no further.

    It is possible those running the footage on Newshub didn't know what they were >looking at, and either made assumptions or decided to create an impression.

    That worked very well. It left a false impression that Mines Rescue had been >far deeper into the mine than anybody had ever known."

    Either Paddy Gower is a dumb shit or he's a lying shit.
    I don't know which but he is not an investigative journalist's asshole!

    Tony

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to JohnO on Tuesday, May 02, 2017 17:03:36
    On 5/2/2017 3:27 PM, JohnO wrote:
    On Tuesday, 2 May 2017 14:57:11 UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:40:36 UTC+12, JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 1 May 2017 10:23:29 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    Open and honest - Naah . . .

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2017/04/video-inside-the-pike-river-mine-what-police-never-showed-the-families.html

    and on a different topic, more deliberate dishonesty -a worldwide
    deception from the right:
    https://www.facebook.com/NickHanauer/videos/1120039824735135/
    and confirmation that National Party policy has supported the
    deception:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/91990768/the-9th-floor-jenny-shipley-new-zealands-first-woman-prime-minister
    Listen from 7:30 for a horror of the sort of debt that NAtional is now >>>>> wracking up, and then from 8:20 for her policies

    for a blunt assessment read:
    http://norightturn.blogspot.co.nz/2017/04/fuck-jenny-shipley.html

    This Newshub story would be the most flagrantly dishonest thing I've ever >>>> seen from them.

    It shows the robot's progress deep into the drift, then shows engineers >>>> working on the robot.
    However the view of the engineers is out of chronological sequence. The time
    stamp clearly shows the engineers were working before any of the progress shown
    up the drift.
    Newshub were trying to infer the engineers were deep into the drift. There >>>> is nothing to suggest they weren't at the portal. In fact the structure of
    the
    walls suggests that is exactly where they were.
    No surprises that the resident lefty dimbulb lapped it all up.
    The fact that robots were sent up the drift and captured video is old news.
    As is the fact that the robots all died getting into the drift. Yet the fuckwit
    lefties want to send humans in there, for the sole purpose of seeing nothing?
    Idiots.

    And Dickbot, you regularly whinge if someone posts opinion from Kiwiblog. >>>> How you can hold a straight face and post norightturn is a mystery. Your >>>> hypocrisy is breathtaking.

    And the Newshub story, along with the bleating by the useful idiots of the >>> left, is officially busted as a lie.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1705/S00014/pike-river-video-footage.htm >>>
    The sad thing is that the Pike River families are being swept along by this >>> dishonesty.
    These pricks are a disgrace, they have dragged the poor families into even more
    despair by falsely raising their hopes. Shame on them all.
    Tony

    Yep. Audrey Young gets it, even if it was a couple of days later than my own
    observations:

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11848325

    "The Sunday night airing of footage of a robot in the Piker River Mine drift
    along with two Mines Rescue personnel was recklessly misleading.

    It has almost certainly led to further distress for Pike River families who
    may have believed something had happened in the drift that had never happened before.

    The sequence of footage and commentary left the clear impression that
    rescuers had gone deep into the drift safely.

    It showed a robot going 1.57km into the tunnel, passing a couple of obstacles
    at least 800m in, breaking down and then being fixed by Mines Rescue personnel deep inside the mine until it came upon a loader and could go no further.

    It is possible those running the footage on Newshub didn't know what they
    were looking at, and either made assumptions or decided to create an impression.

    That worked very well. It left a false impression that Mines Rescue had been
    far deeper into the mine than anybody had ever known."

    Either Paddy Gower is a dumb shit or he's a lying shit.

    Peters and the angry little man tried it on wasting parliamentary time
    with a 'debate' in Parliament and got shut down by the Speaker :)
    Didums

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Monday, May 01, 2017 22:42:18
    Winston? The guy's a bare faced liar and a drunk. Defies belief that so many people vote for him.
    His grandstanding over the debunked pike video story is nauseating but par for the course.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to JohnO on Wednesday, May 03, 2017 08:11:28
    On 5/2/2017 5:42 PM, JohnO wrote:
    Winston? The guy's a bare faced liar and a drunk. Defies belief that so many
    people vote for him.
    His grandstanding over the debunked pike video story is nauseating but par
    for the course.

    If he really believes his shit I suggest he enters the drift without any additional equipment.
    But that would mean the postulating prick would have to actually do
    something.
    Five dollars says that he'd find an urgent appointment in Northland
    As an aside why doesn't any-one else in the Peters party ask questions
    at question time?
    If that happened we could pretend that its an actual political party

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