• Plumbing New Zealand journalism's bottomless pond life...

    From jmschristophers@gmail.com@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, April 16, 2017 16:47:45
    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one really knows why. But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks back. There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for some
    reason, New Zealanders
    can't get passed that pizza."

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11838567

    Here, in a futile attempt to give the kiss of life to a moribund waste of woodpulp, the nation is offered some meretricious radio jock who is both amnesiac and illiterate. This turkey is then let loose by an editorship that not only pushes the most
    banal of trash opinion, but is also simply too tired and slipshod to even care.

    The fact is, the only people who can't get passed (sic) that pizza are the indolent, under-educated bozos running The New Zealand Herald, and their callow
    protégé who would do New Zealand a favour by sticking to titillating death's-door grannies and
    providing animal facts for The Alternative Commentary Collective.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Tony @3:770/3 to All on Sunday, April 16, 2017 19:28:14
    jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one really knows why. But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks back. There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for some reason, New Zealanders can't get passed that pizza."

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11838567

    Here, in a futile attempt to give the kiss of life to a moribund waste of >woodpulp, the nation is offered some meretricious radio jock who is both >amnesiac and illiterate. This turkey is then let loose by an editorship that >not only pushes the most banal of trash opinion, but is also simply too tired >and slipshod to even care.

    The fact is, the only people who can't get passed (sic) that pizza are the >indolent, under-educated bozos running The New Zealand Herald, and their callow
    protégé who would do New Zealand a favour by sticking to titillating >death's-door grannies and providing animal facts for The Alternative >Commentary Collective.
    You and I do not always share the same opinions; on this however we are very close.
    I cannot understand why anybody in the entire universe would care what the PM puts on his pizzas.
    This sort of journalism is, for different reasons, as bad as Hager and co - a total waste of time and energy, an entrenched lack of perspective and in Hager's case a clear political agenda. Both are intellectually dishonest and rely on the lowest common denominator in their readership for continued income. Tony

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Monday, April 17, 2017 14:30:53
    On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:47:45 -0700 (PDT), jmschristophers@gmail.com
    wrote:

    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one really knows why.
    Of course many people do remember - but The Herald is being careful
    not to remind us . . .

    But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks back.
    There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for some >reason, New Zealanders can't get passed that pizza."
    The article did say past rather than passed, but it would not have
    been much worse an article anyway. This is similar to many stories
    about the previous acting-PM - designed to keep a face in the news -
    it doesn;t matter what it is about, nobody reads the words anyway, but
    voting is on name and face recognition, so who cares what it is all
    about?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11838567

    Here, in a futile attempt to give the kiss of life to a moribund waste of >woodpulp, the nation is offered some meretricious radio jock who is
    both amnesiac and illiterate. This turkey is then let loose by an
    editorship that not only pushes the most banal of trash opinion, but
    is also simply too tired and slipshod to even care.

    The fact is, the only people who can't get passed (sic) that pizza
    are the indolent, under-educated bozos running The New Zealand
    Herald, and their callow protégé who would do New Zealand a
    favour by sticking to titillating death's-door grannies and providing
    animal facts for The Alternative Commentary Collective.

    The soundtrack is similarly banal, starting with English mouting
    dreary platitudes about flooding and related issues, then the bizarre
    exchange over pizza, a very low-key subservient questioning of the
    lack of an enquiry into the defence / SAS issue, and giving English
    fairly free rein to English for a political broadcast. Its got to be
    better for the owners than asking National to pay for the time, isn't
    it? - just don;t expect fair treatment for other parties, and don;t
    expect to ever find out how the owners benefit . . .

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From jmschristophers@gmail.com@3:770/3 to nor...@googlegroups.com on Sunday, April 16, 2017 19:53:35
    On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 12:28:20 PM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one really knows why. But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks back. There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for
    some
    reason, New Zealanders can't get passed that pizza."

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11838567

    Here, in a futile attempt to give the kiss of life to a moribund waste of >woodpulp, the nation is offered some meretricious radio jock who is both >amnesiac and illiterate. This turkey is then let loose by an editorship
    that
    not only pushes the most banal of trash opinion, but is also simply too
    tired
    and slipshod to even care.

    The fact is, the only people who can't get passed (sic) that pizza are the >indolent, under-educated bozos running The New Zealand Herald, and their
    callow
    protégé who would do New Zealand a favour by sticking to titillating >death's-door grannies and providing animal facts for The Alternative >Commentary Collective.

    You and I do not always share the same opinions; on this however we are very close.
    I cannot understand why anybody in the entire universe would care what the PM

    puts on his pizzas.

    But they might well care about him pissing in the shower, because that's essentially what this is about. Because, with the ragged-shorts and singlet yob culture having captured the microphone, this is the kind of disgustingly unedifying garbage that
    now passes for professional broadcasting in New Zealand.

    This is what is called 'manufacturing news' and no one 'up there' cares enough for anything to be done about it. "It's enough that it makes money, so don't rock the boat."

    This creeping, commercially-driven lowbrow fungus has now permeated every commercial radio and TV channel to the extent that, with the steady decline into ever-sloppier diction plus the coarsest of vernacular, the recipient can scarcely tell the
    difference between genuine news, advertising, or idle, deadbrained flim-flam.
    But, we are told, solemnly and straight-faced, that "This is what our audience wants.'

    This is the kind of self-fulfilling, self-justifying intellectual dishonesty we
    have today.

    Go figure.

    Huge chunks of expensive transmission time are spent on state-owned television's achingly dragged-out coochie-coo "news" broadcasts. These broadcasts insult the viewer as they parade an assortment of quacking, juvenile
    airheads tricked out in the
    weirdest of dress sense, slavishly reciting corporate hand-outs, all of it paid
    for by the corporate shilling; or sanctimoniously canonising some deceased rugby thug whose CV includes a number of converted tries plus a helping or three of jailtime for
    assault and battery.

    Thankfully, there is still a good choice of transmitted and online foreign news
    channels, both 'print' and broadcast, to bring some reality and perspective to New Zealand's suggestible, corrupted media La-La Land.

    This sort of journalism is, for different reasons, as bad as Hager and co - a

    total waste of time and energy, an entrenched lack of perspective and in Hager's case a clear political agenda. Both are intellectually dishonest and rely on the lowest common denominator in their readership for continued
    income.

    The lowest common denominator is nowadays the main target of our commercial media's ad-baiting. Today, it's also aligned with the same junk huckstering that fuels an all pervading social media. The fact that it is so successful speaks volumes about a
    mind-numbingly incurious audience so dumbed-down as to endlessly feed on the titillating and the vicarious.

    This being so, there is neither the time nor the money for seriously researched
    reportage and analysis, such as is to be found in the BBC's venerable flagship programme, Panorama. Apart from Radio New Zealand, all New Zealand is left with are loud-
    mouthed, drive-by bottom-feeders like Hosking and Henry; and, in another theatre, Miriama Kamo whose gargoyle-grimacing in her creepy Hammer Horror-lit promos invite her loyal, bated-breathed devotees to engage with some kind of latter-day Munsters or
    Adams Family experience!

    (A cousin of mine won't allow Kamo on his telly because, he says, she frightens
    the children.)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From jmschristophers@gmail.com@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, April 16, 2017 20:39:51
    On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 2:31:02 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:47:45 -0700 (PDT), jmschristophers@gmail.com
    wrote:

    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one really
    knows why.
    Of course many people do remember - but The Herald is being careful
    not to remind us . . .

    But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks back. >There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for some >reason, New Zealanders can't get passed that pizza."

    The article did say past rather than passed...

    **At the time of your reading it,** it does!

    I promise you, I simply copied and pasted, verbatim, the hours earlier original
    para straight into my google newsgroup browser. In fact, it was not so much the
    amnesiac element but the "passed" that drew my attention sufficiently for me to
    engage with
    the article.

    Perhaps nz general has a wider audience than one might suspect after all!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Tony @3:770/3 to nor...@googlegroups.com on Monday, April 17, 2017 15:31:28
    jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 12:28:20 PM UTC+12, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote: >> jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one really >> knows why. But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks >> back. There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for >>some
    reason, New Zealanders can't get passed that pizza."


    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11838567

    Here, in a futile attempt to give the kiss of life to a moribund waste of >> >woodpulp, the nation is offered some meretricious radio jock who is both
    amnesiac and illiterate. This turkey is then let loose by an editorship
    that
    not only pushes the most banal of trash opinion, but is also simply too
    tired
    and slipshod to even care.

    The fact is, the only people who can't get passed (sic) that pizza are the >> >indolent, under-educated bozos running The New Zealand Herald, and their
    callow
    protégé who would do New Zealand a favour by sticking to titillating
    death's-door grannies and providing animal facts for The Alternative
    Commentary Collective.

    You and I do not always share the same opinions; on this however we are very >> close.
    I cannot understand why anybody in the entire universe would care what the >>PM
    puts on his pizzas.

    But they might well care about him pissing in the shower, because that's >essentially what this is about. Because, with the ragged-shorts and singlet >yob culture having captured the microphone, this is the kind of disgustingly >unedifying garbage that now passes for professional broadcasting in New Zealand.

    This is what is called 'manufacturing news' and no one 'up there' cares enough >for anything to be done about it. "It's enough that it makes money, so don't >rock the boat."

    This creeping, commercially-driven lowbrow fungus has now permeated every >commercial radio and TV channel to the extent that, with the steady decline >into ever-sloppier diction plus the coarsest of vernacular, the recipient can >scarcely tell the difference between genuine news, advertising, or idle, >deadbrained flim-flam. But, we are told, solemnly and straight-faced, that >"This is what our audience wants.'

    This is the kind of self-fulfilling, self-justifying intellectual dishonesty >we have today.

    Go figure.

    Huge chunks of expensive transmission time are spent on state-owned >television's achingly dragged-out coochie-coo "news" broadcasts. These >broadcasts insult the viewer as they parade an assortment of quacking, juvenile
    airheads tricked out in the weirdest of dress sense, slavishly reciting >corporate hand-outs, all of it paid for by the corporate shilling; or >sanctimoniously canonising some deceased rugby thug whose CV includes a number >of converted tries plus a helping or three of jailtime for assault and battery.

    Thankfully, there is still a good choice of transmitted and online foreign >news channels, both 'print' and broadcast, to bring some reality and >perspective to New Zealand's suggestible, corrupted media La-La Land.

    This sort of journalism is, for different reasons, as bad as Hager and co - >>a
    total waste of time and energy, an entrenched lack of perspective and in
    Hager's case a clear political agenda. Both are intellectually dishonest and >> rely on the lowest common denominator in their readership for continued >>income.

    The lowest common denominator is nowadays the main target of our commercial >media's ad-baiting. Today, it's also aligned with the same junk huckstering >that fuels an all pervading social media. The fact that it is so successful >speaks volumes about a mind-numbingly incurious audience so dumbed-down as to >endlessly feed on the titillating and the vicarious.

    This being so, there is neither the time nor the money for seriously >researched reportage and analysis, such as is to be found in the BBC's >venerable flagship programme, Panorama. Apart from Radio New Zealand, all New >Zealand is left with are loud-mouthed, drive-by bottom-feeders like Hosking and
    Henry; and, in another theatre, Miriama Kamo whose gargoyle-grimacing in her >creepy Hammer Horror-lit promos invite her loyal, bated-breathed devotees to >engage with some kind of latter-day Munsters or Adams Family experience!

    (A cousin of mine won't allow Kamo on his telly because, he says, she >frightens the children.)
    Is your cousin a racist, or simply misogynistic? His and your portrayal of Miriama Kamo is vicious and entirely unfair. What a disgraceful diatribe against a well respected current affairs producer and presenter!
    There is an old adage that you and Rich would be smart to adhere to - "Criticise the behaviour, not the man" - in this case that would be out of place also.
    Tony

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From HitAnyKey@3:770/3 to All on Monday, April 17, 2017 21:58:20
    On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:30:53 +1200, Rich80105 wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:47:45 -0700 (PDT), jmschristophers@gmail.com
    wrote:

    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one
    really knows why.
    Of course many people do remember - but The Herald is being careful not
    to remind us . . .

    But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks back.
    There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for
    some reason, New Zealanders can't get passed that pizza."
    The article did say past rather than passed, but it would not have been
    much worse an article anyway. This is similar to many stories about the previous acting-PM - designed to keep a face in the news - it doesn;t
    matter what it is about, nobody reads the words anyway, but voting is on
    name and face recognition, so who cares what it is all about?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm? c_id=6&objectid=11838567

    Here, in a futile attempt to give the kiss of life to a moribund waste
    of woodpulp, the nation is offered some meretricious radio jock who is
    both amnesiac and illiterate. This turkey is then let loose by an >>editorship that not only pushes the most banal of trash opinion, but is >>also simply too tired and slipshod to even care.

    The fact is, the only people who can't get passed (sic) that pizza are
    the indolent, under-educated bozos running The New Zealand Herald, and >>their callow protégé who would do New Zealand a favour by sticking to >>titillating death's-door grannies and providing animal facts for The >>Alternative Commentary Collective.

    The soundtrack is similarly banal, starting with English mouting dreary platitudes about flooding and related issues, then the bizarre exchange
    over pizza, a very low-key subservient questioning of the lack of an
    enquiry into the defence / SAS issue, and giving English fairly free
    rein to English for a political broadcast. Its got to be better for the owners than asking National to pay for the time, isn't it? - just don;t expect fair treatment for other parties, and don;t expect to ever find
    out how the owners benefit . . .

    A loser's rank bitterness does nothing to improve your argument.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to nobody@nowhere.com on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 13:29:01
    On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:58:20 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
    <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:30:53 +1200, Rich80105 wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:47:45 -0700 (PDT), jmschristophers@gmail.com
    wrote:

    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one >>>really knows why.
    Of course many people do remember - but The Herald is being careful not
    to remind us . . .

    But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks back. >>>There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for
    some reason, New Zealanders can't get passed that pizza."
    The article did say past rather than passed, but it would not have been
    much worse an article anyway. This is similar to many stories about the
    previous acting-PM - designed to keep a face in the news - it doesn;t
    matter what it is about, nobody reads the words anyway, but voting is on
    name and face recognition, so who cares what it is all about?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm? >c_id=6&objectid=11838567

    Here, in a futile attempt to give the kiss of life to a moribund waste
    of woodpulp, the nation is offered some meretricious radio jock who is >>>both amnesiac and illiterate. This turkey is then let loose by an >>>editorship that not only pushes the most banal of trash opinion, but is >>>also simply too tired and slipshod to even care.

    The fact is, the only people who can't get passed (sic) that pizza are >>>the indolent, under-educated bozos running The New Zealand Herald, and >>>their callow protégé who would do New Zealand a favour by sticking to >>>titillating death's-door grannies and providing animal facts for The >>>Alternative Commentary Collective.

    The soundtrack is similarly banal, starting with English mouting dreary
    platitudes about flooding and related issues, then the bizarre exchange
    over pizza, a very low-key subservient questioning of the lack of an
    enquiry into the defence / SAS issue, and giving English fairly free
    rein to English for a political broadcast. Its got to be better for the
    owners than asking National to pay for the time, isn't it? - just don;t
    expect fair treatment for other parties, and don;t expect to ever find
    out how the owners benefit . . .

    A loser's rank bitterness does nothing to improve your argument.

    Crony capitalism is all about winners and losers. With news that our unemployment rate has gone up again I guess you can feel happy that
    the government is ensuring that only the "right" people benefit - but
    you will of course be hoping you continue to be one of those . . .

    It helps of course to keep discussion away from things that actually
    matter to people - the "interview" with Bill English certainly had the appearance of unpaid advertising. When does the regulated period for pre-election advertising start? That may restore some balance - as we
    have seen with payrates, National need the force of the courts to get
    them to act with any decency . . .

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From HitAnyKey@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 09:08:06
    On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 13:29:01 +1200, Rich80105 wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:58:20 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:30:53 +1200, Rich80105 wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:47:45 -0700 (PDT), jmschristophers@gmail.com
    wrote:

    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one >>>>really knows why.
    Of course many people do remember - but The Herald is being careful
    not to remind us . . .

    But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks back. >>>>There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for >>>>some reason, New Zealanders can't get passed that pizza."
    The article did say past rather than passed, but it would not have
    been much worse an article anyway. This is similar to many stories
    about the previous acting-PM - designed to keep a face in the news -
    it doesn;t matter what it is about, nobody reads the words anyway, but
    voting is on name and face recognition, so who cares what it is all
    about?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm? >>c_id=6&objectid=11838567

    Here, in a futile attempt to give the kiss of life to a moribund waste >>>>of woodpulp, the nation is offered some meretricious radio jock who is >>>>both amnesiac and illiterate. This turkey is then let loose by an >>>>editorship that not only pushes the most banal of trash opinion, but
    is also simply too tired and slipshod to even care.

    The fact is, the only people who can't get passed (sic) that pizza are >>>>the indolent, under-educated bozos running The New Zealand Herald, and >>>>their callow protégé who would do New Zealand a favour by sticking to >>>>titillating death's-door grannies and providing animal facts for The >>>>Alternative Commentary Collective.

    The soundtrack is similarly banal, starting with English mouting
    dreary platitudes about flooding and related issues, then the bizarre
    exchange over pizza, a very low-key subservient questioning of the
    lack of an enquiry into the defence / SAS issue, and giving English
    fairly free rein to English for a political broadcast. Its got to be
    better for the owners than asking National to pay for the time, isn't
    it? - just don;t expect fair treatment for other parties, and don;t
    expect to ever find out how the owners benefit . . .

    A loser's rank bitterness does nothing to improve your argument.

    Crony capitalism is all about winners and losers. With news that our unemployment rate has gone up again I guess you can feel happy that the government is ensuring that only the "right" people benefit - but you
    will of course be hoping you continue to be one of those . . .

    It helps of course to keep discussion away from things that actually
    matter to people - the "interview" with Bill English certainly had the appearance of unpaid advertising. When does the regulated period for pre-election advertising start? That may restore some balance - as we
    have seen with payrates, National need the force of the courts to get
    them to act with any decency . . .

    A loser's rank bitterness does nothing to improve your argument.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to jmschristophers@gmail.com on Friday, April 21, 2017 20:20:35
    On 17/04/2017 3:39 p.m., jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
    On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 2:31:02 PM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:47:45 -0700 (PDT), jmschristophers@gmail.com
    wrote:

    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one really knows why.
    Of course many people do remember - but The Herald is being careful
    not to remind us . . .

    But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks back.
    There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for some >>> reason, New Zealanders can't get passed that pizza."

    The article did say past rather than passed...

    **At the time of your reading it,** it does!

    I promise you, I simply copied and pasted, verbatim, the hours earlier
    original para straight into my google newsgroup browser. In fact, it was not so
    much the amnesiac element but the "passed" that drew my attention sufficiently for me to engage with
    the article.

    Perhaps nz general has a wider audience than one might suspect after all!

    You need to get a life Keith while stopping reading papers you know will
    only raise your blood pressure and cause you to make a fool of yourself
    yet again.

    Pooh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Friday, April 21, 2017 20:25:44
    On 18/04/2017 1:29 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:58:20 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
    <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 14:30:53 +1200, Rich80105 wrote:

    On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:47:45 -0700 (PDT), jmschristophers@gmail.com
    wrote:

    "They're calling Bill English the Double Dipper from Dipton. No one
    really knows why.
    Of course many people do remember - but The Herald is being careful not
    to remind us . . .

    But the name has stuck and so has the pizza he made a few weeks back.
    There are lots of things going on in the world at the moment but for
    some reason, New Zealanders can't get passed that pizza."
    The article did say past rather than passed, but it would not have been
    much worse an article anyway. This is similar to many stories about the
    previous acting-PM - designed to keep a face in the news - it doesn;t
    matter what it is about, nobody reads the words anyway, but voting is on >>> name and face recognition, so who cares what it is all about?

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?
    c_id=6&objectid=11838567

    Here, in a futile attempt to give the kiss of life to a moribund waste >>>> of woodpulp, the nation is offered some meretricious radio jock who is >>>> both amnesiac and illiterate. This turkey is then let loose by an
    editorship that not only pushes the most banal of trash opinion, but is >>>> also simply too tired and slipshod to even care.

    The fact is, the only people who can't get passed (sic) that pizza are >>>> the indolent, under-educated bozos running The New Zealand Herald, and >>>> their callow protégé who would do New Zealand a favour by sticking to
    titillating death's-door grannies and providing animal facts for The
    Alternative Commentary Collective.

    The soundtrack is similarly banal, starting with English mouting dreary
    platitudes about flooding and related issues, then the bizarre exchange
    over pizza, a very low-key subservient questioning of the lack of an
    enquiry into the defence / SAS issue, and giving English fairly free
    rein to English for a political broadcast. Its got to be better for the
    owners than asking National to pay for the time, isn't it? - just don;t
    expect fair treatment for other parties, and don;t expect to ever find
    out how the owners benefit . . .

    A loser's rank bitterness does nothing to improve your argument.

    Crony capitalism is all about winners and losers. With news that our unemployment rate has gone up again I guess you can feel happy that
    the government is ensuring that only the "right" people benefit - but
    you will of course be hoping you continue to be one of those . . .


    Typical bollocks from the loopy lefts resident troll. Or can you
    actually provide proof the unemployment rate has gone up Rich? My bet is
    you're just making up shit as usual.

    It helps of course to keep discussion away from things that actually
    matter to people - the "interview" with Bill English certainly had the appearance of unpaid advertising. When does the regulated period for pre-election advertising start? That may restore some balance - as we
    have seen with payrates, National need the force of the courts to get
    them to act with any decency . . .


    So why aren't you bringing up subjects that do matter rather than the
    twisted truth that's your usual trolling stock in trade?

    Pooh

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