• English has treated the public as morons

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, April 07, 2017 16:10:47
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/91265886/english-has-treated-us-like-morons-over-sas-allegations

    Martin Van Beynen has just caught up with what we already knew, but it
    does demonstrate that more and more people are catching on that
    National just do not care about decency, honesty or New Zealand's
    reputation

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  • From HitAnyKey@3:770/3 to All on Friday, April 07, 2017 04:26:02
    On Fri, 07 Apr 2017 16:10:47 +1200, Rich80105 wrote:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/91265886/english-has-
    treated-us-like-morons-over-sas-allegations

    Martin Van Beynen has just caught up with what we already knew, but it
    does demonstrate that more and more people are catching on that National
    just do not care about decency, honesty or New Zealand's reputation

    You've missed the import of the last four words of the article .....

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Thursday, April 06, 2017 23:46:34
    Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/91265886/english-has-treated-us-like-morons-over-sas-allegations

    Martin Van Beynen has just caught up with what we already knew, but it
    does demonstrate that more and more people are catching on that
    National just do not care about decency, honesty or New Zealand's
    reputation
    Almost every government in decades has done that - and don't use the "look over there" defence; the point is it is par for the political course. Many years ago the advertising industry (of which I am delighted to say I have never been a part) used to talk about the ignorant 80 percent. Governments and no doubt advertising folk still assume the public are easily fooled and they are largely right.
    You and your favourite party need to concentrate on hard facts and real policies if you want to ever be a political force of any sort of value again. The remnants of a once powerful Labour party is a joke.
    Tony

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, April 07, 2017 06:14:08
    On 2017-04-07, Rich80105 <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/91265886/english-has-treated-us-like-morons-over-sas-allegations

    Martin Van Beynen has just caught up with what we already knew, but it
    does demonstrate that more and more people are catching on that
    National just do not care about decency, honesty or New Zealand's
    reputation

    This is nothing special. Denial is the first port of call for any politican. Take the POTUS, Donald says that it never happened.

    Bill and his peers are hoping that it will all die down and they will have
    now sand going onto their fan. I mean why open everything up and keep it
    fired up in the media for days via an enquiry. The people of NZ need to
    demand this first, or better yet let the polling sow that the ACT party has more popularity.

    Hager has this knack of wanting to get people to buy his book rather than
    get people reading it. As in sensation is the top piority after profit.

    Back in the good old days, there was a battlefield, in which there were only soliders. So they could slaughter away to the Kings' content.

    To-day (say since the end of the first world war) the battle field contains civilians, and it is a fact, and unfortunate that some of them will become casualties of the fighting (war).

    Nevertheless, as the SAS, are in a foreign country with the brief to take
    out the bad guys and they messed up, I would like to know that the SAS have gone into a lessons learn't session.

    As things stand its a case of sweeping it under the carpet for time visit at
    a later stage.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Monday, April 10, 2017 12:04:57
    On 7/04/2017 4:10 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/91265886/english-has-treated-us-like-morons-over-sas-allegations

    Martin Van Beynen has just caught up with what we already knew, but it
    does demonstrate that more and more people are catching on that
    National just do not care about decency, honesty or New Zealand's
    reputation


    Not 'we' Dumbo! Just idiots like you who can't comprehend that Hager &
    Co. are a couple of idiots like you trying to do a smear job on NZDef.
    Rather like your failures to smear National :)

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Gordon on Monday, April 10, 2017 12:07:04
    On 7/04/2017 6:14 p.m., Gordon wrote:
    On 2017-04-07, Rich80105 <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/91265886/english-has-treated-us-like-morons-over-sas-allegations

    Martin Van Beynen has just caught up with what we already knew, but it
    does demonstrate that more and more people are catching on that
    National just do not care about decency, honesty or New Zealand's
    reputation

    This is nothing special. Denial is the first port of call for any politican. Take the POTUS, Donald says that it never happened.

    Bill and his peers are hoping that it will all die down and they will have now sand going onto their fan. I mean why open everything up and keep it fired up in the media for days via an enquiry. The people of NZ need to demand this first, or better yet let the polling sow that the ACT party has more popularity.

    Hager has this knack of wanting to get people to buy his book rather than
    get people reading it. As in sensation is the top piority after profit.

    Back in the good old days, there was a battlefield, in which there were only soliders. So they could slaughter away to the Kings' content.

    To-day (say since the end of the first world war) the battle field contains civilians, and it is a fact, and unfortunate that some of them will become casualties of the fighting (war).

    Nevertheless, as the SAS, are in a foreign country with the brief to take
    out the bad guys and they messed up, I would like to know that the SAS have gone into a lessons learn't session.

    As things stand its a case of sweeping it under the carpet for time visit at a later stage.

    Sorry Gordon. At no time in history have civilians not suffered during
    times of war.

    Pooh

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