On 4/1/2017 3:56 PM, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 2:00:54 PM UTC+13, george wrote:

On 4/1/2017 12:02 PM, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as the Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are our

politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every
terrorist on the
planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand.

And its taken you all that time to think up such a stupid subject to
post about ????

Either you are an utter cretin or you have a financial interest in dropping

this poison around the country. The second certainly does not exclude the first. If the Graf brothers can walk around Mount Aspiring taking pictures of the pellets on the
ground someone else could just as easily picked them up. Why is it that just about every civilised country on this planet has banned the stuff? NZ is the exception. Perhaps because we elect people like the Red Faced Rooster.

I spent a few years on farms and one of my sources of revenue was
possuming trapping shooting and poisoning to get the skins to send to
the Dunedin skin sales and earn a few extra bob.
That's where I come from in this
Without 1080 and other mass applied agents NZ will be overrun with all
these introduced vermin.
I don't hear to much about greenies in the depths of the South Island
ranges controlling possum populations

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On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 07:56:45 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 4/1/2017 3:56 PM, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 2:00:54 PM UTC+13, george wrote:

On 4/1/2017 12:02 PM, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as the

Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are our
politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every
terrorist on the
planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand. >>>>

And its taken you all that time to think up such a stupid subject to
post about ????

Either you are an utter cretin or you have a financial interest in dropping this poison around the country. The second certainly does not exclude the first. If the Graf brothers can walk around Mount Aspiring taking pictures of the pellets on the

ground someone else could just as easily picked them up. Why is it that just about every civilised country on this planet has banned the stuff? NZ is the exception. Perhaps because we elect people like the Red Faced Rooster.

I spent a few years on farms and one of my sources of revenue was
possuming trapping shooting and poisoning to get the skins to send to
the Dunedin skin sales and earn a few extra bob.
That's where I come from in this
Without 1080 and other mass applied agents NZ will be overrun with all
these introduced vermin.
I don't hear to much about greenies in the depths of the South Island
ranges controlling possum populations

My experience is that 1080 pellets are effective, and I know of no
other safer alternative. I do not know if it was used on Kapiti
Island, but suspect that it probably was; having ris that islad of
predators it is not required further. I do go to other bush areas
quite frequently however - both Rimutaka Forest Park and an area near
a water catchment. 1080 drops near where people walk are carefully
done through traps on trees and on the ground off paths with warning
signs; the aerial drops are for where people are not likely to be
walking, or where those walking can be expected to know that they are
entering an area where there has been a recent drop - signs are
prominent at entrance ways. I know nothing about Mt Aspiring drops,
but I can imagine that it may be difficult to sign all less often used entrances, but certainly regular trampers should be wary of pellets on
the ground. Is signage a problem, Roger?

The effect of 1080 on a possum infested area is excellent - native
trees and bird life flourish. Dogs need to be kept clear of areas for
a time, so locals are advised of any drop, but my understanding is
that the pellets degrade over a relatively short period provided they
are dropped in appropriate conditions - preferably where it is not too
dry or cold, and preferably not into water - which makes it necessary
to hand drop in many locations near dwellings. In the Wellingotn
area, the effect of the Karori Sanctuary - now Zealandia - has
affected a much wider area with people up to Waikanae and Upper Hutt
reporting increased bird life, but that has been in conjunction with
possum eradication programmes as well.

Deer are still a nuisance in some areas - where close to habitation
shooting can be difficult - the sound (or news) of shooting spreads to
human vermin who will come uninvited to an area known to have deer and
they cannot be as confidently known to be safe as invited hunters.

The 1080 programme pre-dates National's "predator-free New Zealand"
programme - but that was an empty sound-bite. I understand there will
be no significant spending on that idea other than PR releases at
least until after the next election - the motel subsidy programme for
emergency housing has priority!

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On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 5:27:47 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:

On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 20:35:34 -0700 (PDT), Roger Dewhurst <capebarrengoose@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 3:58:56 PM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:

On Saturday, 1 April 2017 12:02:34 UTC+13, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as

the Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use
by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are
our politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every terrorist on
the planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand.

Why go to the bother of travelling to the boonies and scrabbling about in

the mud picking the stuff up, after it's been spread thin by a helicopter? Much
more toxic material is readily available for sale.

The whole premise of this post is quite frankly, bizarre.

But there are a lot of slightly odd people out there with very strange

ideas about 1080.

What more toxic material can you buy? Why do you suppose that it is banned

almost world wide or where it is not banned it is strictly controlled? I suggest you watch the video and you might just appreciate the stupidity of what
is being done. Then
of course there is mere matter of wiping out all wildlife in the area. Excellent of course for attracting tourists.

What video?
And who are the Graf brothers, or the Red Faced Rooster?

Find Youtube. In the search box type Graf boys or brothers and possibly 1080.
If you are not a total fuckwit, which I am afraid that you are, you will find a
pointer to a video made by the Graf brothers following a 1080 drop on Mount Aspiring. Do you
know where that is? You are such a fuckwit that I doubt that you know even that.

And you cannot figure out who the Red Faced Rooster is? You are beyond all hope, lacking the wherewithall to get yourself into a home for the mentally disabled.

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On Sunday, April 2, 2017 at 8:39:18 AM UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:

On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 07:56:45 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 4/1/2017 3:56 PM, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 2:00:54 PM UTC+13, george wrote:

On 4/1/2017 12:02 PM, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as

the Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use
by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are
our politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every terrorist on
the planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand.

And its taken you all that time to think up such a stupid subject to
post about ????

Either you are an utter cretin or you have a financial interest in

dropping this poison around the country. The second certainly does not exclude
the first. If the Graf brothers can walk around Mount Aspiring taking pictures of the pellets on the
ground someone else could just as easily picked them up. Why is it that just about every civilised country on this planet has banned the stuff? NZ is the exception. Perhaps because we elect people like the Red Faced Rooster.

I spent a few years on farms and one of my sources of revenue was >possuming trapping shooting and poisoning to get the skins to send to
the Dunedin skin sales and earn a few extra bob.
That's where I come from in this
Without 1080 and other mass applied agents NZ will be overrun with all >these introduced vermin.
I don't hear to much about greenies in the depths of the South Island >ranges controlling possum populations

My experience is that 1080 pellets are effective, and I know of no
other safer alternative. I do not know if it was used on Kapiti
Island, but suspect that it probably was; having ris that islad of
predators it is not required further. I do go to other bush areas
quite frequently however - both Rimutaka Forest Park and an area near
a water catchment. 1080 drops near where people walk are carefully
done through traps on trees and on the ground off paths with warning
signs; the aerial drops are for where people are not likely to be
walking, or where those walking can be expected to know that they are entering an area where there has been a recent drop - signs are
prominent at entrance ways. I know nothing about Mt Aspiring drops,
but I can imagine that it may be difficult to sign all less often used entrances, but certainly regular trampers should be wary of pellets on
the ground. Is signage a problem, Roger?

The effect of 1080 on a possum infested area is excellent - native
trees and bird life flourish. Dogs need to be kept clear of areas for
a time, so locals are advised of any drop, but my understanding is
that the pellets degrade over a relatively short period provided they
are dropped in appropriate conditions - preferably where it is not too
dry or cold, and preferably not into water - which makes it necessary
to hand drop in many locations near dwellings. In the Wellingotn
area, the effect of the Karori Sanctuary - now Zealandia - has
affected a much wider area with people up to Waikanae and Upper Hutt reporting increased bird life, but that has been in conjunction with
possum eradication programmes as well.

Deer are still a nuisance in some areas - where close to habitation
shooting can be difficult - the sound (or news) of shooting spreads to
human vermin who will come uninvited to an area known to have deer and
they cannot be as confidently known to be safe as invited hunters.

The 1080 programme pre-dates National's "predator-free New Zealand"
programme - but that was an empty sound-bite. I understand there will
be no significant spending on that idea other than PR releases at
least until after the next election - the motel subsidy programme for emergency housing has priority!

Effective yes, if you wish to kill every fucking vertebrate and half the invertibrates in the drop area. DoC kills more kiwis and other native birds than anybody or anything else. And everything that they kill is killed in a manner as inhumane as any
that can be devised. If the Red Faced Rooster and these people in DoC could be
forced to watch their pet dogs or cats dying in agony over twelve hours or so from 1080 poison even they would understand the evil of it.

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On 2017-04-01, Roger Dewhurst <capebarrengoose@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 3:58:56 PM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:

On Saturday, 1 April 2017 12:02:34 UTC+13, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as the

Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are our
politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every
terrorist on the
planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand.

Why go to the bother of travelling to the boonies and scrabbling about in the mud picking the stuff up, after it's been spread thin by a helicopter? Much

more toxic material is readily available for sale.

The whole premise of this post is quite frankly, bizarre.

But there are a lot of slightly odd people out there with very strange ideas

about 1080.

What more toxic material can you buy? Why do you suppose that it is banned

almost world wide or where it is not banned it is strictly controlled? I suggest you watch the video and you might just appreciate the stupidity of what
is being done. Then
of course there is mere matter of wiping out all wildlife in the area. Excellent of course for attracting tourists.

Chocolate, dogs then to find it life threating.

P, and other drugs.

History has showed us that tobacco and the smoking of it kind of was toxic. Still is, still can buy it.

Sorry my thinking is out of the square.

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On 2017-04-01, Rich80105 <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 20:35:34 -0700 (PDT), Roger Dewhurst
<capebarrengoose@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 3:58:56 PM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:

On Saturday, 1 April 2017 12:02:34 UTC+13, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as the Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use

by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are
our politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every terrorist on
the planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand.

Why go to the bother of travelling to the boonies and scrabbling about in the mud picking the stuff up, after it's been spread thin by a helicopter? Much

more toxic material is readily available for sale.

The whole premise of this post is quite frankly, bizarre.

But there are a lot of slightly odd people out there with very strange ideas about 1080.

What more toxic material can you buy? Why do you suppose that it is banned almost world wide or where it is not banned it is strictly controlled? I suggest you watch the video and you might just appreciate the stupidity of what

is being done. Then
of course there is mere matter of wiping out all wildlife in the area. Excellent of course for attracting tourists.

What video?
And who are the Graf brothers, or the Red Faced Rooster?

Chicken licken. Good grief Rich you have missed something again. Get some V
and sharpen up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henny_Penny

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On 2017-04-02, Roger Dewhurst <capebarrengoose@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 5:27:47 PM UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:

On Fri, 31 Mar 2017 20:35:34 -0700 (PDT), Roger Dewhurst
<capebarrengoose@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, April 1, 2017 at 3:58:56 PM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:

On Saturday, 1 April 2017 12:02:34 UTC+13, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as the Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use

by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are
our politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every terrorist on
the planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand.

Why go to the bother of travelling to the boonies and scrabbling about in

the mud picking the stuff up, after it's been spread thin by a helicopter? Much
more toxic material is readily available for sale.

The whole premise of this post is quite frankly, bizarre.

But there are a lot of slightly odd people out there with very strange ideas about 1080.

What more toxic material can you buy? Why do you suppose that it is banned almost world wide or where it is not banned it is strictly controlled? I suggest you watch the video and you might just appreciate the stupidity of what is being done.

Then of course there is mere matter of wiping out all wildlife in the area. Excellent of course for attracting tourists.

What video?
And who are the Graf brothers, or the Red Faced Rooster?

Find Youtube.

Okay, we can do this.

In the search box type Graf boys or brothers and possibly 1080.

Roger at this stage Tim Bernes-Lee would roll his eyes and decide not to comment.

The Internet is about URLs

If you are not a total fuckwit, which I am afraid that you are,

Tell us why Roger?

you will find a pointer to a video made by the Graf brothers following a 1080

drop on Mount Aspiring.


So why not post the URL

Do you know where that is?

Yep.

You are such a fuckwit that I doubt that you know even that.

Go on Roger play the man and not the ball. Troll on.

And you cannot figure out who the Red Faced Rooster is? You are beyond all

hope, lacking the wherewithall to get yourself into a home for the mentally disabled.

Ironic. Take a chill pill Roger.

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On 2017-03-31, Roger Dewhurst <capebarrengoose@gmail.com> wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as the

Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are our
politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every
terrorist on the
planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand.

Roger, old chap. There are thoughts which should not be put out in the
public domain.

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On 4/2/2017 2:51 PM, Roger Dewhurst wrote:

Effective yes, if you wish to kill every fucking vertebrate and half the

invertibrates in the drop area. DoC kills more kiwis and other native birds than anybody or anything else. And everything that they kill is killed in a manner as inhumane as any
that can be devised. If the Red Faced Rooster and these people in DoC could be
forced to watch their pet dogs or cats dying in agony over twelve hours or so from 1080 poison even they would understand the evil of it.


Come on Roger.
Not like you to be reticent
Tell us what you 'believe' to be the truth then go bush and hear the
bird song that's coming back.
Or catch whitebait out of streams deemed by greenies as unswimmable.
Or the little freshwater crays...

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On Sunday, 2 April 2017 17:04:50 UTC+12, Gordon wrote:

On 2017-03-31, Roger Dewhurst <capebarrengoose@gmail.com> wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as the

Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are our
politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every
terrorist on the
planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand.

Roger, old chap. There are thoughts which should not be put out in the
public domain.

Poor old Roger. In a scientific debate he's taking the gospel of these guys:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/1080-campaigner-has-bank-robbery-convictions-2009120115

Over the advice of DOC. The NZ Commissioner for the Environment also undertook a wide ranging scientific review of 1080 use in NZ and came to the conclusion that it is the best tool and should continue to be used.

But I'm sure those bank robbing hick photographers know better.

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On 4/3/2017 7:28 AM, JohnO wrote:

On Sunday, 2 April 2017 17:04:50 UTC+12, Gordon wrote:

On 2017-03-31, Roger Dewhurst <capebarrengoose@gmail.com> wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as the Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are our

politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every
terrorist on the
planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand.

Roger, old chap. There are thoughts which should not be put out in the
public domain.

Poor old Roger. In a scientific debate he's taking the gospel of these guys:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/1080-campaigner-has-bank-robbery-convictions-2009120115

Over the advice of DOC. The NZ Commissioner for the Environment also

undertook a wide ranging scientific review of 1080 use in NZ and came to the conclusion that it is the best tool and should continue to be used.

But I'm sure those bank robbing hick photographers know better.

Which one was it sent the threat of 1080 in childrens formula unless
they used his alternative?
Nice people these anti 1080 lot.

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On Monday, 3 April 2017 08:10:16 UTC+12, george wrote:

On 4/3/2017 7:28 AM, JohnO wrote:

On Sunday, 2 April 2017 17:04:50 UTC+12, Gordon wrote:

On 2017-03-31, Roger Dewhurst <capebarrengoose@gmail.com> wrote:

What happens when a terrorist group collects 1080 pellets as easily as

the Graf brothers can find them after helicopter drops and exports them for use
by a terrorist group, say in the UK. The source will be tracked back to New Zealand. How are
our politicians going to explain away the deaths of say 200 UK citizens? Or what happens if the terrorists choose to use them here? Just have a look for the latest Graf brothers video on Youtube. This, of course , is available to every terrorist on
the planet with access to a computer. Our Red Faced Rooster will have an even redder face when he tries to explain away to some irate foreign government just
how easily this poison can be picked up off the ground here in New Zealand.

Roger, old chap. There are thoughts which should not be put out in the
public domain.

Poor old Roger. In a scientific debate he's taking the gospel of these

guys:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/1080-campaigner-has-bank-robbery-convictions-2009120115

Over the advice of DOC. The NZ Commissioner for the Environment also

undertook a wide ranging scientific review of 1080 use in NZ and came to the conclusion that it is the best tool and should continue to be used.

But I'm sure those bank robbing hick photographers know better.

Which one was it sent the threat of 1080 in childrens formula unless
they used his alternative?
Nice people these anti 1080 lot.

This guy:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11610428

But he was doing it for money. Kind of ironic that Our Roger accuses anyone who
supports 1080 use of having vested financial interest in it.

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On 4/3/2017 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:

On Monday, 3 April 2017 08:10:16 UTC+12, george wrote:

Which one was it sent the threat of 1080 in childrens formula unless
they used his alternative?
Nice people these anti 1080 lot.

This guy:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11610428

But he was doing it for money. Kind of ironic that Our Roger accuses anyone

who supports 1080 use of having vested financial interest in it.

Thanks.
The hypocrisy of the left eh ?

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On Monday, 3 April 2017 11:45:56 UTC+12, george wrote:

On 4/3/2017 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:

On Monday, 3 April 2017 08:10:16 UTC+12, george wrote:

Which one was it sent the threat of 1080 in childrens formula unless
they used his alternative?
Nice people these anti 1080 lot.

This guy:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11610428

But he was doing it for money. Kind of ironic that Our Roger accuses anyone

who supports 1080 use of having vested financial interest in it.

Thanks.
The hypocrisy of the left eh ?

Is he? Strikes me as more of an NZFirst buffer.

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On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 17:27:52 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Monday, 3 April 2017 11:45:56 UTC+12, george wrote:

On 4/3/2017 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:

On Monday, 3 April 2017 08:10:16 UTC+12, george wrote:

Which one was it sent the threat of 1080 in childrens formula unless
they used his alternative?
Nice people these anti 1080 lot.

This guy:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11610428

But he was doing it for money. Kind of ironic that Our Roger accuses anyone who supports 1080 use of having vested financial interest in it.

Thanks.
The hypocrisy of the left eh ?

Is he? Strikes me as more of an NZFirst buffer.

Yet again JohnO and George show their obsession about trivia and their
shallow perception of politics in everything. I do not defend
attempted illegal actions, but that does not mean that there cannot be reasonable concerns are entirely unjustified. I support the limited
use of 1080 under strict conditions as giving the best of undesirable
outcomes. Yes there are risks with 1080 - it is not a "nice" chemical,
and considerable care is needed. I believe that the Wellington
Regional Council acted very responsibly with at least one of their
programmes - they visited houses near the drop zone and explained the
risks and benefits fairly (I attended one presentation), and outlined
how it would be carried out. Air drops were restricted to ensure that
there would not be pellets in inhabited areas; baited traps were laid
near bush tracks. Signs were posted warning of danger - in particular
to domestic animals - and owners advised on approriate action. There
have been follow-up drops and montoring of traps as well. If a better
solution comes along I am sure it would be used, but the devastation
from possums is worth risking a bit for the long term good.

I am not aware of Roger accusing all supporters of 1080 use as having
a vested financial interest, but your readiness to make the claim is
an illustration that you are aware of the motivatins of many under our "crony-capitalism" NZ government. Our local and regional authorities
do need careful watching, but despite isolated instances of such
corruption there is little evidence that they are as guilty as
National and their supporters - look to yourselves for hypocrisy,
george and JohnO.

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On 3/04/2017 1:41 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:

On Sun, 2 Apr 2017 17:27:52 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Monday, 3 April 2017 11:45:56 UTC+12, george wrote:

On 4/3/2017 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:

On Monday, 3 April 2017 08:10:16 UTC+12, george wrote:

Which one was it sent the threat of 1080 in childrens formula unless >>>>> they used his alternative?
Nice people these anti 1080 lot.

This guy:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11610428 >>>>
But he was doing it for money. Kind of ironic that Our Roger accuses anyone who supports 1080 use of having vested financial interest in it.

Thanks.
The hypocrisy of the left eh ?

Is he? Strikes me as more of an NZFirst buffer.

Yet again JohnO and George show their obsession about trivia and their shallow perception of politics in everything. I do not defend
attempted illegal actions, but that does not mean that there cannot be reasonable concerns are entirely unjustified. I support the limited
use of 1080 under strict conditions as giving the best of undesirable outcomes. Yes there are risks with 1080 - it is not a "nice" chemical,
and considerable care is needed. I believe that the Wellington
Regional Council acted very responsibly with at least one of their
programmes - they visited houses near the drop zone and explained the
risks and benefits fairly (I attended one presentation), and outlined
how it would be carried out. Air drops were restricted to ensure that
there would not be pellets in inhabited areas; baited traps were laid
near bush tracks. Signs were posted warning of danger - in particular
to domestic animals - and owners advised on approriate action. There
have been follow-up drops and montoring of traps as well. If a better solution comes along I am sure it would be used, but the devastation
from possums is worth risking a bit for the long term good.

I am not aware of Roger accusing all supporters of 1080 use as having
a vested financial interest, but your readiness to make the claim is
an illustration that you are aware of the motivatins of many under our "crony-capitalism" NZ government. Our local and regional authorities
do need careful watching, but despite isolated instances of such
corruption there is little evidence that they are as guilty as
National and their supporters - look to yourselves for hypocrisy,
george and JohnO.

MWAHAHAHA! Stop it Rich! Your just to bloody funny at times......

Pooh

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