http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:00:45 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>Hardly surprising.
wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2017 07:44:37 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
Well there you go. Dickbot takes his AGW scientific guidance from cartoons.
17 years, your cartoon is obviously a load of shit.Given that even the AGW orthodoxy accept there's been a pause for the last
accepting this cartoon drivel, Dickbot.Perhaps you should have read the comments below it before mindlessly
The comments are good, aren't they? Every attempt by the
climate-change deniers to poke holes in the graph methodically
demolished.
There ae other interesting articles on the site - just explore: http://grist.org/science/
On Friday, 17 March 2017 07:44:37 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:this cartoon drivel, Dickbot.
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
Well there you go. Dickbot takes his AGW scientific guidance from cartoons. Hardly surprising.
Given that even the AGW orthodoxy accept there's been a pause for the last 17 years, your cartoon is obviously a load of shit.
Perhaps you should have read the comments below it before mindlessly accepting
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:03:09 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
I don't see any connection between climate change denial and the National >>party.
Oh Nat spin is on your side, Allistar. National say the "right"
things, but the real test is what they do. They say they are going to
meet emission targets - but only by 2030.
What they have actually done
is leave farming out of any emission requirements and our actual
results have got worse. They are "gunnas", not "doers"- they are
always "gunna" do something long after their term in government has
expired. Just think about NZ Super - that's 2040! Real Nat-spin
distracts from reality by promising a better future - just not this
year, or next year, or even for 8 years! - but if you believe the
Nats, its gunna come for us all - its just that _this year_ - whatever
year you think of, its the turn for shareholders (including overseas shareholders, and the wealthy - but they are believers! Its gunna
happen! And Nat-bots actually believe them . . .
Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
I don't see any connection between climate change denial and the National >party.
Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:03:09 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
I don't see any connection between climate change denial and the National >>> party.
Oh Nat spin is on your side, Allistar. National say the "right"
things, but the real test is what they do. They say they are going to
meet emission targets - but only by 2030.
What they have actually done
is leave farming out of any emission requirements and our actual
results have got worse. They are "gunnas", not "doers"- they are
always "gunna" do something long after their term in government has
expired. Just think about NZ Super - that's 2040! Real Nat-spin
distracts from reality by promising a better future - just not this
year, or next year, or even for 8 years! - but if you believe the
Nats, its gunna come for us all - its just that _this year_ - whatever
year you think of, its the turn for shareholders (including overseas
shareholders, and the wealthy - but they are believers! Its gunna
happen! And Nat-bots actually believe them . . .
Are you suggesting that the National party have policies of climate change denial?
Are you saying that if a political party holds a particular view then all of their supporters must also hold that view?
You have still not made any connection between the National party and
climate change denial.
What's with the pejorative term "Nat-bot"? Name calling is what children in school grounds do, it's not a strategy for reasonable adults.
Rich80105 wrote:No. I am saying that they do not deny it, but that is meangingless in
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:03:09 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
I don't see any connection between climate change denial and the National >>>party.
Oh Nat spin is on your side, Allistar. National say the "right"
things, but the real test is what they do. They say they are going to
meet emission targets - but only by 2030.
What they have actually done
is leave farming out of any emission requirements and our actual
results have got worse. They are "gunnas", not "doers"- they are
always "gunna" do something long after their term in government has
expired. Just think about NZ Super - that's 2040! Real Nat-spin
distracts from reality by promising a better future - just not this
year, or next year, or even for 8 years! - but if you believe the
Nats, its gunna come for us all - its just that _this year_ - whatever
year you think of, its the turn for shareholders (including overseas
shareholders, and the wealthy - but they are believers! Its gunna
happen! And Nat-bots actually believe them . . .
Are you suggesting that the National party have policies of climate change >denial?
Are you saying that if a political party holds a particular view then all of >their supporters must also hold that view?No - what a strange idea!
You have still not made any connection between the National party andThey say one thing that their actions are inconsistent with - do you
climate change denial.
What's with the pejorative term "Nat-bot"? Name calling is what children in >school grounds do, it's not a strategy for reasonable adults.It is an accurate description of a few posters to this group, Allistar
On 3/17/2017 10:13 AM, Allistar wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:03:09 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the >>>>> Nat-spin bots do?
I don't see any connection between climate change denial and the National >>>> party.
Oh Nat spin is on your side, Allistar. National say the "right"
things, but the real test is what they do. They say they are going to
meet emission targets - but only by 2030.
What they have actually done
is leave farming out of any emission requirements and our actual
results have got worse. They are "gunnas", not "doers"- they are
always "gunna" do something long after their term in government has
expired. Just think about NZ Super - that's 2040! Real Nat-spin
distracts from reality by promising a better future - just not this
year, or next year, or even for 8 years! - but if you believe the
Nats, its gunna come for us all - its just that _this year_ - whatever
year you think of, its the turn for shareholders (including overseas
shareholders, and the wealthy - but they are believers! Its gunna
happen! And Nat-bots actually believe them . . .
Are you suggesting that the National party have policies of climate change >> denial?
Are you saying that if a political party holds a particular view then all of >> their supporters must also hold that view?
You have still not made any connection between the National party and
climate change denial.
What's with the pejorative term "Nat-bot"? Name calling is what children in >> school grounds do, it's not a strategy for reasonable adults.
Its not a rational human being its rich in one of its guises
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 10:13:36 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:03:09 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the >>>>> Nat-spin bots do?
I don't see any connection between climate change denial and the >>>>National party.
Oh Nat spin is on your side, Allistar. National say the "right"
things, but the real test is what they do. They say they are going to
meet emission targets - but only by 2030.
What they have actually done
is leave farming out of any emission requirements and our actual
results have got worse. They are "gunnas", not "doers"- they are
always "gunna" do something long after their term in government has
expired. Just think about NZ Super - that's 2040! Real Nat-spin
distracts from reality by promising a better future - just not this
year, or next year, or even for 8 years! - but if you believe the
Nats, its gunna come for us all - its just that _this year_ - whatever
year you think of, its the turn for shareholders (including overseas
shareholders, and the wealthy - but they are believers! Its gunna
happen! And Nat-bots actually believe them . . .
Are you suggesting that the National party have policies of climate change >>denial?
No. I am saying that they do not deny it, but that is meangingless in
the face of their higher priority to plunder our future for short term
gain to their mates. Where are their actions (as distict from
asserted belief) in any way inconsistent with climate change denial?
Are you saying that if a political party holds a particular view then all >>of their supporters must also hold that view?
No - what a strange idea!
You have still not made any connection between the National party and >>climate change denial.
They say one thing that their actions are inconsistent with - do you
care more about rhetioric and spin than about real actions?
What's with the pejorative term "Nat-bot"? Name calling is what children
in school grounds do, it's not a strategy for reasonable adults.
It is an accurate description of a few posters to this group, Allistar
- JohnO and geroge increasingly engage with the "Nat-bot" tactics of
deny, distract, ignore, minimise, and personal attack combines with
selective deleting of previous posts to change context.
Pooh was a
poster that had descended into near mindless drivel; thankfully I dont
see him as often as previously - JohnO and george and at times others
use those tactics more often when they have no reasonable argument in
support of National.
It is certainly mild compared with the abuse
peddled by the "Nat-bots"from time to time.
Rich80105 wrote:Make up there own mind of course - influenced by their past and that
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 10:13:36 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:03:09 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the >>>>>> Nat-spin bots do?
I don't see any connection between climate change denial and the >>>>>National party.
Oh Nat spin is on your side, Allistar. National say the "right"
things, but the real test is what they do. They say they are going to
meet emission targets - but only by 2030.
What they have actually done
is leave farming out of any emission requirements and our actual
results have got worse. They are "gunnas", not "doers"- they are
always "gunna" do something long after their term in government has
expired. Just think about NZ Super - that's 2040! Real Nat-spin
distracts from reality by promising a better future - just not this
year, or next year, or even for 8 years! - but if you believe the
Nats, its gunna come for us all - its just that _this year_ - whatever >>>> year you think of, its the turn for shareholders (including overseas
shareholders, and the wealthy - but they are believers! Its gunna
happen! And Nat-bots actually believe them . . .
Are you suggesting that the National party have policies of climate change >>>denial?
No. I am saying that they do not deny it, but that is meangingless in
the face of their higher priority to plunder our future for short term
gain to their mates. Where are their actions (as distict from
asserted belief) in any way inconsistent with climate change denial?
How is the National party plundering anyone's future in this regard?
Are you saying that if a political party holds a particular view then all >>>of their supporters must also hold that view?
No - what a strange idea!
Why the line "What will the nat-bots do"?
You have still not made any connection between the National party and >>>climate change denial.
They say one thing that their actions are inconsistent with - do you
care more about rhetioric and spin than about real actions?
I do not think the National party have any control over climate change. What >makes you think they do?
What's with the pejorative term "Nat-bot"? Name calling is what children >>>in school grounds do, it's not a strategy for reasonable adults.
It is an accurate description of a few posters to this group, Allistar
It's puerile and not becoming of someone who uses reason to argue.
- JohnO and geroge increasingly engage with the "Nat-bot" tactics of
deny, distract, ignore, minimise, and personal attack combines with
selective deleting of previous posts to change context.
Do you think that personal attacks are an effective way to discuss ideas
with people?
Pooh was a
poster that had descended into near mindless drivel; thankfully I dont
see him as often as previously - JohnO and george and at times others
use those tactics more often when they have no reasonable argument in
support of National.
Is it that they support National or that they don't support Labour? Do you >think there is a difference?
It is certainly mild compared with the abuse
peddled by the "Nat-bots"from time to time.
I don't see too many out and out National supporters here. I see many that >are opposed to Labour but that's more a reflection of NZ society than >anything else.
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger.
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:03:09 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
I don't see any connection between climate change denial and the National
party.
Oh Nat spin is on your side, Allistar. National say the "right"
things, but the real test is what they do. They say they are going to
meet emission targets - but only by 2030. What they have actually done
is leave farming out of any emission requirements and our actual
results have got worse. They are "gunnas", not "doers"- they are
always "gunna" do something long after their term in government has
expired. Just think about NZ Super - that's 2040! Real Nat-spin
distracts from reality by promising a better future - just not this
year, or next year, or even for 8 years! - but if you believe the
Nats, its gunna come for us all - its just that _this year_ - whatever
year you think of, its the turn for shareholders (including overseas shareholders, and the wealthy - but they are believers! Its gunna
happen! And Nat-bots actually believe them . . .
Rich80105 wrote:
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:03:09 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
I don't see any connection between climate change denial and the National >>> party.
Oh Nat spin is on your side, Allistar. National say the "right"
things, but the real test is what they do. They say they are going to
meet emission targets - but only by 2030.
What they have actually done
is leave farming out of any emission requirements and our actual
results have got worse. They are "gunnas", not "doers"- they are
always "gunna" do something long after their term in government has
expired. Just think about NZ Super - that's 2040! Real Nat-spin
distracts from reality by promising a better future - just not this
year, or next year, or even for 8 years! - but if you believe the
Nats, its gunna come for us all - its just that _this year_ - whatever
year you think of, its the turn for shareholders (including overseas
shareholders, and the wealthy - but they are believers! Its gunna
happen! And Nat-bots actually believe them . . .
Are you suggesting that the National party have policies of climate change denial?
Are you saying that if a political party holds a particular view then all of their supporters must also hold that view?
You have still not made any connection between the National party and
climate change denial.
What's with the pejorative term "Nat-bot"? Name calling is what children in school grounds do, it's not a strategy for reasonable adults.
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 10:13:36 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:No. I am saying that they do not deny it, but that is meangingless in
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 09:03:09 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:
Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the >>>>> Nat-spin bots do?
I don't see any connection between climate change denial and the National >>>> party.
Oh Nat spin is on your side, Allistar. National say the "right"
things, but the real test is what they do. They say they are going to
meet emission targets - but only by 2030.
What they have actually done
is leave farming out of any emission requirements and our actual
results have got worse. They are "gunnas", not "doers"- they are
always "gunna" do something long after their term in government has
expired. Just think about NZ Super - that's 2040! Real Nat-spin
distracts from reality by promising a better future - just not this
year, or next year, or even for 8 years! - but if you believe the
Nats, its gunna come for us all - its just that _this year_ - whatever
year you think of, its the turn for shareholders (including overseas
shareholders, and the wealthy - but they are believers! Its gunna
happen! And Nat-bots actually believe them . . .
Are you suggesting that the National party have policies of climate change >> denial?
the face of their higher priority to plunder our future for short term
gain to their mates. Where are their actions (as distict from
asserted belief) in any way inconsistent with climate change denial?
No - what a strange idea!
Are you saying that if a political party holds a particular view then all of >> their supporters must also hold that view?
You have still not made any connection between the National party andThey say one thing that their actions are inconsistent with - do you
climate change denial.
care more about rhetioric and spin than about real actions?
What's with the pejorative term "Nat-bot"? Name calling is what children in >> school grounds do, it's not a strategy for reasonable adults.It is an accurate description of a few posters to this group, Allistar
- JohnO and geroge increasingly engage with the "Nat-bot" tactics of
deny, distract, ignore, minimise, and personal attack combines with
selective deleting of previous posts to change context. Pooh was a
poster that had descended into near mindless drivel; thankfully I dont
see him as often as previously - JohnO and george and at times others
use those tactics more often when they have no reasonable argument in
support of National. It is certainly mild compared with the abuse
peddled by the "Nat-bots"from time to time.
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:00:45 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, 17 March 2017 07:44:37 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
http://grist.org/science/when-someone-tells-you-the-climate-is-always-changing-show-them-this-cartoon/
Now wait for the deny, distract, attack the messenger. What will the
Nat-spin bots do?
Well there you go. Dickbot takes his AGW scientific guidance from cartoons. Hardly surprising.
Given that even the AGW orthodoxy accept there's been a pause for the last 17 years, your cartoon is obviously a load of shit.
Perhaps you should have read the comments below it before mindlessly accepting this cartoon drivel, Dickbot.
The comments are good, aren't they? Every attempt by the
climate-change deniers to poke holes in the graph methodically
demolished.
There ae other interesting articles on the site - just explore: http://grist.org/science/
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