• Bill still out of touch

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, March 02, 2017 21:54:58
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89979644/bill-english-wellington-rental-squeeze-problem-of-success-not-a-crisis

    Naturally Bill English doesn't see the human problem of people in
    another NZ city being unable to find accomodation, and rents
    increasing rapidly - he sees it as a success for landlords.

    Just read the comments on the article - English is seen as arrogant,
    out of touch, and past his use-by date.

    One of the drivers of current demand is of course the start of the
    university year. With increasing specialisation of courses, more
    students are finding they have to move to another city for the course
    they want - and with government encouragement universities are going
    all out to increase rolls - which increases demand on accomodation.
    There are an increasing number of office buildings now taken over for
    student accomodation, but it is not enough; rents are rising above the
    maximum level the government will lend, leading to poorer students
    potentially not being able to afford to attend, or having to have long
    commutes - that's all OK with National of course, because "their
    people" can afford to subside that extra $15 or $25 per week . . .

    Wellington has indeed been good about providing council housing -
    often against strong opposition from the National-led govenment, who
    have been difficult about funding the capital projects - National see
    low return highways as more important. But Wellington Council is not
    geared to provide accomodation for students and workers.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, March 02, 2017 13:15:07
    On Thursday, 2 March 2017 21:55:04 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89979644/bill-english-wellington-rental-squeeze-problem-of-success-not-a-crisis

    Naturally Bill English doesn't see the human problem of people in
    another NZ city being unable to find accomodation, and rents
    increasing rapidly - he sees it as a success for landlords.

    Just read the comments on the article - English is seen as arrogant,
    out of touch, and past his use-by date.

    One of the drivers of current demand is of course the start of the
    university year. With increasing specialisation of courses, more
    students are finding they have to move to another city for the course
    they want - and with government encouragement universities are going
    all out to increase rolls - which increases demand on accomodation.
    There are an increasing number of office buildings now taken over for
    student accomodation, but it is not enough; rents are rising above the maximum level the government will lend, leading to poorer students potentially not being able to afford to attend, or having to have long commutes - that's all OK with National of course, because "their
    people" can afford to subside that extra $15 or $25 per week . . .

    Wellington has indeed been good about providing council housing -
    often against strong opposition from the National-led govenment, who
    have been difficult about funding the capital projects - National see
    low return highways as more important. But Wellington Council is not
    geared to provide accomodation for students and workers.

    I'm sure Angry 7% Andy is way more "in touch", eh? Nothing like a career as a union bully to make one "in touch".

    And even better he now has Jacinda. She'll be "in touch". The media keep telling us this. Probably because here career to date, which solely comprises a
    stint frying chips along with the rest of her life as a politician, would see her "in touch" with a
    voting population that have actual jobs.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Friday, March 03, 2017 14:44:01
    On 2/03/2017 9:54 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89979644/bill-english-wellington-rental-squeeze-problem-of-success-not-a-crisis

    Naturally Bill English doesn't see the human problem of people in
    another NZ city being unable to find accomodation, and rents
    increasing rapidly - he sees it as a success for landlords.

    Just read the comments on the article - English is seen as arrogant,
    out of touch, and past his use-by date.

    One of the drivers of current demand is of course the start of the
    university year. With increasing specialisation of courses, more
    students are finding they have to move to another city for the course
    they want - and with government encouragement universities are going
    all out to increase rolls - which increases demand on accomodation.
    There are an increasing number of office buildings now taken over for
    student accomodation, but it is not enough; rents are rising above the maximum level the government will lend, leading to poorer students potentially not being able to afford to attend, or having to have long commutes - that's all OK with National of course, because "their
    people" can afford to subside that extra $15 or $25 per week . . .

    Wellington has indeed been good about providing council housing -
    often against strong opposition from the National-led govenment, who
    have been difficult about funding the capital projects - National see
    low return highways as more important. But Wellington Council is not
    geared to provide accomodation for students and workers.



    Funny how at the start of the university year the same 'problem' crops
    up year after year. Guess Rich and the media share the same stupid gene
    that denys them the ability to remember anything earlier than ten
    minutes ago.

    Pooh

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  • From Crash@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, March 05, 2017 21:45:02
    On Thu, 02 Mar 2017 21:54:58 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89979644/bill-english-wellington-rental-squeeze-problem-of-success-not-a-crisis

    Naturally Bill English doesn't see the human problem of people in
    another NZ city being unable to find accomodation, and rents
    increasing rapidly - he sees it as a success for landlords.

    Just read the comments on the article - English is seen as arrogant,
    out of touch, and past his use-by date.

    One of the drivers of current demand is of course the start of the
    university year. With increasing specialisation of courses, more
    students are finding they have to move to another city for the course
    they want - and with government encouragement universities are going
    all out to increase rolls - which increases demand on accomodation.
    There are an increasing number of office buildings now taken over for
    student accomodation, but it is not enough; rents are rising above the >maximum level the government will lend, leading to poorer students >potentially not being able to afford to attend, or having to have long >commutes - that's all OK with National of course, because "their
    people" can afford to subside that extra $15 or $25 per week . . .

    Wellington has indeed been good about providing council housing -
    often against strong opposition from the National-led govenment, who
    have been difficult about funding the capital projects - National see
    low return highways as more important. But Wellington Council is not
    geared to provide accomodation for students and workers.

    Rich your comments are a combination of wishful thinking and
    irrelevancies.

    If Bill English is 'out of touch' how come He and National rate so
    highly in the opinion polls? National and Bill English receive
    approval support levels vastly in excess of every other party and
    every other party leader.

    Now both have their shortcomings - but neither you nor the other
    political opponents of Bill English and National have a clue what they
    are even after 8 years of trying.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to All on Monday, March 06, 2017 10:31:44
    On 2/03/2017 9:54 PM, Rich80105 wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89979644/bill-english-wellington-rental-squeeze-problem-of-success-not-a-crisis

    Naturally Bill English doesn't see the human problem of people in
    another NZ city being unable to find accomodation, and rents
    increasing rapidly - he sees it as a success for landlords.

    Just read the comments on the article - English is seen as arrogant,
    out of touch, and past his use-by date.

    One of the drivers of current demand is of course the start of the
    university year. With increasing specialisation of courses, more
    students are finding they have to move to another city for the course
    they want - and with government encouragement universities are going
    all out to increase rolls - which increases demand on accomodation.
    There are an increasing number of office buildings now taken over for
    student accomodation, but it is not enough; rents are rising above the maximum level the government will lend, leading to poorer students potentially not being able to afford to attend, or having to have long commutes - that's all OK with National of course, because "their
    people" can afford to subside that extra $15 or $25 per week . . .

    Wellington has indeed been good about providing council housing -
    often against strong opposition from the National-led govenment, who
    have been difficult about funding the capital projects - National see
    low return highways as more important. But Wellington Council is not
    geared to provide accomodation for students and workers.



    Yes, of course Rich. Whatever you say.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to Fred on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 11:54:20
    On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:31:44 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/03/2017 9:54 PM, Rich80105 wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89979644/bill-english-wellington-rental-squeeze-problem-of-success-not-a-crisis

    Naturally Bill English doesn't see the human problem of people in
    another NZ city being unable to find accomodation, and rents
    increasing rapidly - he sees it as a success for landlords.

    Just read the comments on the article - English is seen as arrogant,
    out of touch, and past his use-by date.

    One of the drivers of current demand is of course the start of the
    university year. With increasing specialisation of courses, more
    students are finding they have to move to another city for the course
    they want - and with government encouragement universities are going
    all out to increase rolls - which increases demand on accomodation.
    There are an increasing number of office buildings now taken over for
    student accomodation, but it is not enough; rents are rising above the
    maximum level the government will lend, leading to poorer students
    potentially not being able to afford to attend, or having to have long
    commutes - that's all OK with National of course, because "their
    people" can afford to subside that extra $15 or $25 per week . . .

    Wellington has indeed been good about providing council housing -
    often against strong opposition from the National-led govenment, who
    have been difficult about funding the capital projects - National see
    low return highways as more important. But Wellington Council is not
    geared to provide accomodation for students and workers.



    Yes, of course Rich. Whatever you say.
    Thanks Fred.

    Housing is of course a sensitive issue, and may have prompted the
    removal of the tweet from Bill English's account that said "We're not
    here to shy away from the hard issues" - despite that having been sent
    in the context of discussion on the government's U-turn on the promise
    to make no changes to NZ Superannuation - see http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/03/pm-bill-english-denies-seeing-a-tweet-sent-from-his-own-account.html

    A staffer probably quickly real;ised that while it may have been a
    suitable response to the ham-fisted communication of that policy
    change, it was hardly true of the government in general, and
    specifically not in relation to housing.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 19:56:21
    On 7/03/2017 11:54 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Mon, 6 Mar 2017 10:31:44 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:

    On 2/03/2017 9:54 PM, Rich80105 wrote:
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/89979644/bill-english-wellington-rental-squeeze-problem-of-success-not-a-crisis

    Naturally Bill English doesn't see the human problem of people in
    another NZ city being unable to find accomodation, and rents
    increasing rapidly - he sees it as a success for landlords.

    Just read the comments on the article - English is seen as arrogant,
    out of touch, and past his use-by date.

    One of the drivers of current demand is of course the start of the
    university year. With increasing specialisation of courses, more
    students are finding they have to move to another city for the course
    they want - and with government encouragement universities are going
    all out to increase rolls - which increases demand on accomodation.
    There are an increasing number of office buildings now taken over for
    student accomodation, but it is not enough; rents are rising above the
    maximum level the government will lend, leading to poorer students
    potentially not being able to afford to attend, or having to have long
    commutes - that's all OK with National of course, because "their
    people" can afford to subside that extra $15 or $25 per week . . .

    Wellington has indeed been good about providing council housing -
    often against strong opposition from the National-led govenment, who
    have been difficult about funding the capital projects - National see
    low return highways as more important. But Wellington Council is not
    geared to provide accomodation for students and workers.



    Yes, of course Rich. Whatever you say.
    Thanks Fred.

    Housing is of course a sensitive issue, and may have prompted the
    removal of the tweet from Bill English's account that said "We're not
    here to shy away from the hard issues" - despite that having been sent
    in the context of discussion on the government's U-turn on the promise
    to make no changes to NZ Superannuation - see http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/03/pm-bill-english-denies-seeing-a-tweet-sent-from-his-own-account.html


    Was only a 'government' promise in the eyes of such comprehension-less
    idiots as You, Angry little Andy and the marxist sheep that follow
    Labour Rich.

    A staffer probably quickly real;ised that while it may have been a
    suitable response to the ham-fisted communication of that policy
    change, it was hardly true of the government in general, and
    specifically not in relation to housing.


    So what brought on Labours flip flop on raising the age for
    Superannuation Rich. Or was it simply that they (like you) only believe
    Labour good, National bad when in reality it's Labour bloody disgusting, National not a lot better!

    Pooh

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