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    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, February 23, 2017 23:18:20
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, February 24, 2017 16:19:31
    On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:18:20 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/

    And a vote! http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Friday, February 24, 2017 16:08:11
    On 23/02/2017 11:18 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/


    Here Rich goes again Labour good, National bad. Now remind us snowflake
    about what exactly Labour did to prevent pollution of our rivers.

    Pooh

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, February 24, 2017 22:55:01
    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:19:31 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:18:20 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/

    And a vote! >http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/
    Sorry - that was the wrong url! - and now I can't find the one I saw -
    possibly removesd as 90% did not like the announcements.

    I did find that Nick Smith promised in 2006 that all rivers would be
    swimmable by 2030 (and that under the old definitions of "swimmable" -
    so in effet National are admitting so much of a fail that their
    objective will now take 10 more years to only achive a much lower
    standard of water. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1702/S00322/nats-water-policy-a-colossal-u-turn.htm

    also see: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00269/swimmable-rivers-five-times-more-likely-to-make-you-sick.htm
    https://twitter.com/rodemmerson/status/834820247966212096/photo/1 https://twitter.com/denistegg/status/834683499445489664/photo/1 http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/89750791/the-thorny-politics-of-swimmable-a-word-losing-its-meaning

    I suspect the usual Nat-bots will stay away from this one - it must be
    worrying that there has been nothing that has gone well for English or
    National for months now - incompetence coming through from the whole
    National cabinet . . Will Smith get sacked now?

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, February 25, 2017 09:06:42
    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 22:55:01 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:19:31 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:18:20 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/

    And a vote! >>http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/
    Sorry - that was the wrong url! - and now I can't find the one I saw - >possibly removesd as 90% did not like the announcements.

    I did find that Nick Smith promised in 2006 that all rivers would be >swimmable by 2030 (and that under the old definitions of "swimmable" -
    so in effet National are admitting so much of a fail that their
    objective will now take 10 more years to only achive a much lower
    standard of water. >http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1702/S00322/nats-water-policy-a-colossal-u-turn.htm

    also see: >http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00269/swimmable-rivers-five-times-more-likely-to-make-you-sick.htm
    https://twitter.com/rodemmerson/status/834820247966212096/photo/1 >https://twitter.com/denistegg/status/834683499445489664/photo/1 >http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/89750791/the-thorny-politics-of-swimmable-a-word-losing-its-meaning

    I suspect the usual Nat-bots will stay away from this one - it must be >worrying that there has been nothing that has gone well for English or >National for months now - incompetence coming through from the whole
    National cabinet . . Will Smith get sacked now?

    As predicted, no response from the wilfully blind National supporters.
    I did however find the poll: http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2017/02/poll-are-you-satisfied-with-the-government-s-plan-to-clean-up-our-waterways.html

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, February 25, 2017 17:01:58
    On 24/02/2017 10:55 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:19:31 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:18:20 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/

    And a vote!
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/
    Sorry - that was the wrong url! - and now I can't find the one I saw - possibly removesd as 90% did not like the announcements.

    I did find that Nick Smith promised in 2006 that all rivers would be swimmable by 2030 (and that under the old definitions of "swimmable" -
    so in effet National are admitting so much of a fail that their
    objective will now take 10 more years to only achive a much lower
    standard of water. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1702/S00322/nats-water-policy-a-colossal-u-turn.htm

    also see: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00269/swimmable-rivers-five-times-more-likely-to-make-you-sick.htm
    https://twitter.com/rodemmerson/status/834820247966212096/photo/1 https://twitter.com/denistegg/status/834683499445489664/photo/1 http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/89750791/the-thorny-politics-of-swimmable-a-word-losing-its-meaning

    I suspect the usual Nat-bots will stay away from this one - it must be worrying that there has been nothing that has gone well for English or National for months now - incompetence coming through from the whole
    National cabinet . . Will Smith get sacked now?

    Remind us again Rich. What did Labour ever achieve in improving the
    state of our rivers? Nah don't bother because you know damn well they
    did NOTHING! And if the union stooge manages to win in September they'll continue to do nothing because all they're interested in is the perks
    you get as a politician in new Zealand! Just like EVERY other politician!

    Pooh

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, February 25, 2017 17:06:32
    On 25/02/2017 9:06 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 22:55:01 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:19:31 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:18:20 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/

    And a vote!
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/
    Sorry - that was the wrong url! - and now I can't find the one I saw -
    possibly removesd as 90% did not like the announcements.

    I did find that Nick Smith promised in 2006 that all rivers would be
    swimmable by 2030 (and that under the old definitions of "swimmable" -
    so in effet National are admitting so much of a fail that their
    objective will now take 10 more years to only achive a much lower
    standard of water.
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1702/S00322/nats-water-policy-a-colossal-u-turn.htm

    also see:
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00269/swimmable-rivers-five-times-more-likely-to-make-you-sick.htm
    https://twitter.com/rodemmerson/status/834820247966212096/photo/1
    https://twitter.com/denistegg/status/834683499445489664/photo/1
    http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/89750791/the-thorny-politics-of-swimmable-a-word-losing-its-meaning

    I suspect the usual Nat-bots will stay away from this one - it must be
    worrying that there has been nothing that has gone well for English or
    National for months now - incompetence coming through from the whole
    National cabinet . . Will Smith get sacked now?

    As predicted, no response from the wilfully blind National supporters.
    I did however find the poll: http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2017/02/poll-are-you-satisfied-with-the-government-s-plan-to-clean-up-our-waterways.html

    No Rich. What most of them doing is ignoring your stupid and biased
    whitters.

    BTW thank you for admitting at long last I'm not a wilfully blind
    National supporter. Yes I will vote for them in September but only
    because the ever more disgusting union controlled bunch of marxist
    muppets calling themselves Labour are something New Zealand needs and
    why have a change when the current bunch are doing so much better than
    we could ever expect from your lot!

    Pooh

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, February 25, 2017 22:24:14
    On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 09:06:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 22:55:01 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:19:31 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:18:20 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/

    And a vote! >>>http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/
    Sorry - that was the wrong url! - and now I can't find the one I saw - >>possibly removesd as 90% did not like the announcements.

    I did find that Nick Smith promised in 2006 that all rivers would be >>swimmable by 2030 (and that under the old definitions of "swimmable" -
    so in effet National are admitting so much of a fail that their
    objective will now take 10 more years to only achive a much lower
    standard of water. >>http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1702/S00322/nats-water-policy-a-colossal-u-turn.htm

    also see: >>http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00269/swimmable-rivers-five-times-more-likely-to-make-you-sick.htm
    https://twitter.com/rodemmerson/status/834820247966212096/photo/1 >>https://twitter.com/denistegg/status/834683499445489664/photo/1 >>http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/89750791/the-thorny-politics-of-swimmable-a-word-losing-its-meaning

    I suspect the usual Nat-bots will stay away from this one - it must be >>worrying that there has been nothing that has gone well for English or >>National for months now - incompetence coming through from the whole >>National cabinet . . Will Smith get sacked now?

    As predicted, no response from the wilfully blind National supporters.
    I did however find the poll: >http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2017/02/poll-are-you-satisfied-with-the-government-s-plan-to-clean-up-our-waterways.html

    And it continues, with concern about both the reality of National
    accepting that they have a problem, but now taking voters for fools
    that can be placated by moving the goalposts, and not even promising
    any action this year!

    Here is something that can be done to get National to take this
    seriously:
    https://contribute-actionstation.nationbuilder.com/cleanrivers

    The only thing that counts for National is turning off voters - this
    is one way we can help change priorities to ensure the next generation
    does not have to accept this shit from National

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, February 26, 2017 09:28:28
    On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 22:24:14 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 09:06:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 22:55:01 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:19:31 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:18:20 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/

    And a vote! >>>>http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/
    Sorry - that was the wrong url! - and now I can't find the one I saw - >>>possibly removesd as 90% did not like the announcements.

    I did find that Nick Smith promised in 2006 that all rivers would be >>>swimmable by 2030 (and that under the old definitions of "swimmable" -
    so in effet National are admitting so much of a fail that their
    objective will now take 10 more years to only achive a much lower >>>standard of water. >>>http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1702/S00322/nats-water-policy-a-colossal-u-turn.htm

    also see: >>>http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00269/swimmable-rivers-five-times-more-likely-to-make-you-sick.htm
    https://twitter.com/rodemmerson/status/834820247966212096/photo/1 >>>https://twitter.com/denistegg/status/834683499445489664/photo/1 >>>http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/89750791/the-thorny-politics-of-swimmable-a-word-losing-its-meaning

    I suspect the usual Nat-bots will stay away from this one - it must be >>>worrying that there has been nothing that has gone well for English or >>>National for months now - incompetence coming through from the whole >>>National cabinet . . Will Smith get sacked now?

    As predicted, no response from the wilfully blind National supporters.
    I did however find the poll: >>http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2017/02/poll-are-you-satisfied-with-the-government-s-plan-to-clean-up-our-waterways.html

    And it continues, with concern about both the reality of National
    accepting that they have a problem, but now taking voters for fools
    that can be placated by moving the goalposts, and not even promising
    any action this year!

    Here is something that can be done to get National to take this
    seriously:
    https://contribute-actionstation.nationbuilder.com/cleanrivers

    The only thing that counts for National is turning off voters - this
    is one way we can help change priorities to ensure the next generation
    does not have to accept this shit from National

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/govt-aims-to-get-90pct-of-rivers-swimmable-by-2040.html
    Listen to this from 3:35 on.
    So what are they going to do between now and the election to make our
    rivers cleaner?

    That the key really - a lower target for many years away means nothing
    needs to be done now.

    Nick Smith is trying to peddle junk politics - but they have been
    caught
    Paddy Gower: Nothing.

    So its talk talk talk, and do nothing. Not very credible has just
    descended to a farce. Just don't ask Bill English to replace Nick
    Smith with someone with competence - that would be a waste of time as
    well..

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, February 26, 2017 10:29:09
    On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 09:28:28 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 22:24:14 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 25 Feb 2017 09:06:42 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 22:55:01 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>wrote:

    On Fri, 24 Feb 2017 16:19:31 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Feb 2017 23:18:20 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> >>>>>wrote:
    http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/

    And a vote! >>>>>http://www.thecivilian.co.nz/government-vows-that-by-2040-90-of-new-zealands-rivers-will-be-vaguely-liquid-in-nature/
    Sorry - that was the wrong url! - and now I can't find the one I saw - >>>>possibly removesd as 90% did not like the announcements.

    I did find that Nick Smith promised in 2006 that all rivers would be >>>>swimmable by 2030 (and that under the old definitions of "swimmable" - >>>>so in effet National are admitting so much of a fail that their >>>>objective will now take 10 more years to only achive a much lower >>>>standard of water. >>>>http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA1702/S00322/nats-water-policy-a-colossal-u-turn.htm

    also see: >>>>http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00269/swimmable-rivers-five-times-more-likely-to-make-you-sick.htm
    https://twitter.com/rodemmerson/status/834820247966212096/photo/1 >>>>https://twitter.com/denistegg/status/834683499445489664/photo/1 >>>>http://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/89750791/the-thorny-politics-of-swimmable-a-word-losing-its-meaning

    I suspect the usual Nat-bots will stay away from this one - it must be >>>>worrying that there has been nothing that has gone well for English or >>>>National for months now - incompetence coming through from the whole >>>>National cabinet . . Will Smith get sacked now?

    As predicted, no response from the wilfully blind National supporters.
    I did however find the poll: >>>http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/shows/2017/02/poll-are-you-satisfied-with-the-government-s-plan-to-clean-up-our-waterways.html

    And it continues, with concern about both the reality of National
    accepting that they have a problem, but now taking voters for fools
    that can be placated by moving the goalposts, and not even promising
    any action this year!

    Here is something that can be done to get National to take this
    seriously:
    https://contribute-actionstation.nationbuilder.com/cleanrivers

    The only thing that counts for National is turning off voters - this
    is one way we can help change priorities to ensure the next generation
    does not have to accept this shit from National

    http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/02/govt-aims-to-get-90pct-of-rivers-swimmable-by-2040.html
    Listen to this from 3:35 on.
    So what are they going to do between now and the election to make our
    rivers cleaner?
    Paddy Gower: Nothing.

    That the key really - a lower target for many years away means nothing
    needs to be done now.

    Nick Smith is trying to peddle junk politics - but they have been
    caught

    So its talk talk talk, and do nothing. Not very credible has just
    descended to a farce. Just don't ask Bill English to replace Nick
    Smith with someone with competence - that would be a waste of time as
    well..

    Sorry I got one line out of place(PAddy Gowers reply) - now fixed
    above.

    While here, here is another comment. National now chanelling Trump! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5ihwdMU4AACL04.jpg

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
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