I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA.
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA.
Dot Com has not done anything that would be considered a crime here or atleast nothing that would get him more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket.
Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting him to a country thatmight well put him away for twenty years!
Have our government and courts gone soft in the head?
Why should we assist the Americans to get their hands on him when we wouldnot consider for a moment doing so if the demanding country was Zimbabwe, North
It is time to tell the Americans to f... off.
Do we really want to set a precedent for deporting a NZ resident to SaudiArabia or Iran for apostasy? That is where we go if this precedent is set.
On Monday, 20 February 2017 17:53:52 UTC+13, Roger Dewhurst wrote:least nothing that would get him more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket.
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA.
Irrelevant under the law.
Dot Com has not done anything that would be considered a crime here or at
that might well put him away for twenty years!Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting him to a country
So?that has not changed in nearly two decades.
Have our government and courts gone soft in the head?
What has the government got to do with it? The courts are following a law
not consider for a moment doing so if the demanding country was Zimbabwe, NorthWhy should we assist the Americans to get their hands on him when we would
We have no treaty with either.Arabia or Iran for apostasy? That is where we go if this precedent is set.
It is time to tell the Americans to f... off.
No.
Do we really want to set a precedent for deporting a NZ resident to Saudi
We don't have an extradition treaty with Iran or Saudi Arabia so the questionis void.
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done
anything that would be considered a crime here or at
least nothing that would get him more than a slap on
the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Nevertheless we are
entertaining the idea of deporting him to a country that
might well put him away for twenty years! Have our
government and courts gone soft in the head? Why
should we assist the Americans to get their hands on
him when we would not consider for a moment doing
so if the demanding country was Zimbabwe, North
Korea or indeed almost any other country in the world.
It is time to tell the Americans to f... off. Do we really
want to set a precedent for deporting a NZ resident
to Saudi Arabia or Iran for apostasy? That is
where we go if this precedent is set.
On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:08:15 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:at least nothing that would get him more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket.
On Monday, 20 February 2017 17:53:52 UTC+13, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA.
Irrelevant under the law.
Dot Com has not done anything that would be considered a crime here or
that might well put him away for twenty years!Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting him to a country
that has not changed in nearly two decades.So?
Have our government and courts gone soft in the head?
What has the government got to do with it? The courts are following a law
would not consider for a moment doing so if the demanding country was Zimbabwe,Why should we assist the Americans to get their hands on him when we
Saudi Arabia or Iran for apostasy? That is where we go if this precedent is set.We have no treaty with either.
It is time to tell the Americans to f... off.
No.
Do we really want to set a precedent for deporting a NZ resident to
question is void.We don't have an extradition treaty with Iran or Saudi Arabia so the
Should we deport anyone for doing something which is not a criminal offenceunder NZ law? I think not whatever one's views of Dot Com as an individual.
It is aggravated by the near certainty that he will not have a trial that isspeedy or fair. The penalty is likely to be excessive.
Deport Dot Com and a precedent is set for deporting any NZ resident foranything that might be considered a crime in some other country but not considered a crime here.
Possibly Dot Com could have been sued under civillaw here but that is no basis for extradition.
Frankly I think that all extradition agreements are a waste of time. Ifanother country, agreements or not, can make a case that a crime has been committed under the laws of both countries there is a case for extradition subject only to the
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done anything that would be
On 20/02/17 17:53, Roger Dewhurst wrote:considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done anything that would be
I'm with you Roger.
NZ's cops and spies have done a dirty deal with the yanks, dug
themselves into a deep hole with their incompetence, and are
determined to keep digging in the hope of providing themselves
a ladder out of the shit.
And the courts are playing ball with the cops for reasons of
their own. Laughing stock the whole shower of them.
On Tuesday, 21 February 2017 12:00:53 UTC+13, greybeard wrote:on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting him
On 20/02/17 17:53, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done anything that would be considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap
I'm with you Roger.
NZ's cops and spies have done a dirty deal with the yanks, dug
themselves into a deep hole with their incompetence, and are
determined to keep digging in the hope of providing themselves
a ladder out of the shit.
And the courts are playing ball with the cops for reasons of
their own. Laughing stock the whole shower of them.
You really think the two judges are part of a conspiracy?
On 21/02/17 12:25, JohnO wrote:be considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting
On Tuesday, 21 February 2017 12:00:53 UTC+13, greybeard wrote:
On 20/02/17 17:53, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done anything that would
I'm with you Roger.
NZ's cops and spies have done a dirty deal with the yanks, dug
themselves into a deep hole with their incompetence, and are
determined to keep digging in the hope of providing themselves
a ladder out of the shit.
And the courts are playing ball with the cops for reasons of
their own. Laughing stock the whole shower of them.
You really think the two judges are part of a conspiracy?
No. Your the only person uttering conspiracy.
Still you would utter anything to shield govt employees from
reality, their own incompetence, and any hint of accountability,
for fear of shit spilling over into the political arena.
When you say "And the courts are playing ball with the cops for reasons oftheir own"
On Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:53:51 -0800 (PST), Roger Dewhurst <capebarrengoose@gmail.com> wrote:
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done
anything that would be considered a crime here or at
least nothing that would get him more than a slap on
the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Nevertheless we are
entertaining the idea of deporting him to a country that
might well put him away for twenty years! Have our
government and courts gone soft in the head? Why
should we assist the Americans to get their hands on
him when we would not consider for a moment doing
so if the demanding country was Zimbabwe, North
Korea or indeed almost any other country in the world.
It is time to tell the Americans to f... off. Do we really
want to set a precedent for deporting a NZ resident
to Saudi Arabia or Iran for apostasy? That is
where we go if this precedent is set.
Welcome back Roger.
The "prosecution" is being funded by a vindictive government - who
needed a distracting witch-hunt to deflect their own incompetence.
It would be interesting to know how much it has cost New Zealand -
even if some has been paid by the United States I am sure we have
better things for our justice system to deal with than this trumped up
case.
The trolls will now claim that I support Dot-Coms politics - I don;t,
but I do support the principles of freedom, tolerance, and a fair
justice system.
Apparently the excuse is now that whatever he did can be called fraud, although who has lost money opther than Dot Com is unclear.
I have yet to see an explanation of how his website differed in the
effect it had on file sharing from Dropbox, torrent sites etc
On Tuesday, February 21, 2017 at 8:08:15 AM UTC+13, JohnO wrote:not consider for a moment doing so if the demanding country was Zimbabwe, North
On Monday, 20 February 2017 17:53:52 UTC+13, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA.
Irrelevant under the law.
Dot Com has not done anything that would be considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket.
Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting him to a country that might well put him away for twenty years!
So?
Have our government and courts gone soft in the head?
What has the government got to do with it? The courts are following a law that has not changed in nearly two decades.
Why should we assist the Americans to get their hands on him when we would
under NZ law? I think not whatever one's views of Dot Com as an individual.
We have no treaty with either.
It is time to tell the Americans to f... off.
No.
Do we really want to set a precedent for deporting a NZ resident to Saudi Arabia or Iran for apostasy? That is where we go if this precedent is set.
We don't have an extradition treaty with Iran or Saudi Arabia so the question is void.
Should we deport anyone for doing something which is not a criminal offence
It is aggravated by the near certainty that he will not have a trial that isspeedy or fair. The penalty is likely to be excessive.
Deport Dot Com and a precedent is set for deporting any NZ resident foranything that might be considered a crime in some other country but not considered a crime here. Possibly Dot Com could have been sued under civil law
Frankly I think that all extradition agreements are a waste of time. Ifanother country, agreements or not, can make a case that a crime has been committed under the laws of both countries there is a case for extradition subject only to the
Still you would utter anything to shield govt employees from
reality, their own incompetence, and any hint of accountability,
for fear of shit spilling over into the political arena.
Yeah well, I'm sure you know the law. What would those judges know about it,eh?
What has that diatribe to do with the deporting of a small number of criminals??
You may not have noticed but the 'political arena' got involved at the
last election
On 22/02/17 07:48, george152 wrote:
What has that diatribe to do with the deporting of a small number of criminals??
You may not have noticed but the 'political arena' got involved at the
last election
It's got nothing to do with deporting criminals. The "criminal" in
question hasn't been convicted -yet. Not that you care about that, or
the law.
The outcome has been predetermined by you and your ilk because
he badmouthed some politicians, has exposed the crown lawyers and the
police as sloppy, inept incompetents with an agenda that has little to
with criminality or justice. It's just bureaucratic, systematic bashing
as many people as possible.
Just like JohnO, and his cheerteam
sycophants do everyday on usenet. Like the Labour party, you pour scorn
and negativity on anyone and everyone constantly. Self-appointed
enforcers and arbiters of opinion. Fortunately, on usenet, it's just a cluster of nasty sad fucks talking to themselves.
"sad fucks talking to ourselves"?
You sound like you're a Winston Peters fan.
Hang on, are we "enforcers or arbiters of opinion" or "sad fucks talking toourselves"? Make up your mind, will you?
You sound like you're a Winston Peters fan.
On 22/02/17 11:29, JohnO wrote:
"sad fucks talking to ourselves"?
You're definitely sad fucks mostly* talking to yourselves.
* I've just dropped in to provide a target for your nasty abusive
personality to vomit on. It's what you do. It's all you can do. Perpetually.
You sound like you're a Winston Peters fan.
You can't help yourself can you? Wallowing in a cesspit of invective.
I'd put him down
On 22/02/17 15:17, george152 wrote:
I'd put him down
You and your "happy" friend put everyone down. Sycophant.
On 20/02/17 17:53, Roger Dewhurst wrote:on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting him
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done anything that would be considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap
I'm with you Roger.
NZ's cops and spies have done a dirty deal with the yanks, dug
themselves into a deep hole with their incompetence, and are
determined to keep digging in the hope of providing themselves
a ladder out of the shit.
And the courts are playing ball with the cops for reasons of
their own. Laughing stock the whole shower of them.
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 12:00:50 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting him
wrote:
On 20/02/17 17:53, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done anything that would be considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap
This article gives some background to teh case and this decision http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00226/dotcom-legal-team-on-high-court-judgment.htm
I'm with you Roger.
NZ's cops and spies have done a dirty deal with the yanks, dug
themselves into a deep hole with their incompetence, and are
determined to keep digging in the hope of providing themselves
a ladder out of the shit.
And the courts are playing ball with the cops for reasons of
their own. Laughing stock the whole shower of them.
On 22/02/2017 9:15 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:be considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 12:00:50 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 20/02/17 17:53, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done anything that would
This article gives some background to teh case and this decision http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00226/dotcom-legal-team-on-high-court-judgment.htm
I'm with you Roger.
NZ's cops and spies have done a dirty deal with the yanks, dug
themselves into a deep hole with their incompetence, and are
determined to keep digging in the hope of providing themselves
a ladder out of the shit.
And the courts are playing ball with the cops for reasons of
their own. Laughing stock the whole shower of them.
It's a Dot Con press release you moronic marxist muppet! About as much
truth in it as anything you've posted in this ng over the years. Though
the spelling is much superiour to yours Rich:)
Pooh
On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 11:52:47 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:him to a country that might well put him away for twenty years! Have our government and courts gone soft in the head? Why should we assist the Americans to get their hands on him when we would not consider for a moment doing so if the demanding country
On 22/02/2017 9:15 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 12:00:50 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 20/02/17 17:53, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done anything that would be considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting
This article gives some background to teh case and this decision
I'm with you Roger.
NZ's cops and spies have done a dirty deal with the yanks, dug
themselves into a deep hole with their incompetence, and are
determined to keep digging in the hope of providing themselves
a ladder out of the shit.
And the courts are playing ball with the cops for reasons of
their own. Laughing stock the whole shower of them.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00226/dotcom-legal-team-on-high-court-judgment.htm
It's a Dot Con press release you moronic marxist muppet! About as much
truth in it as anything you've posted in this ng over the years. Though
the spelling is much superiour to yours Rich:)
Pooh
And also to yours, as you unwittingly demonstrate.
It looks like the US has a selective morality when it comes to
extradition. They want extradite KDC who hasn't committed any crime
in NZ or US . Compare this to the case of a US boarder guard on US
soil who shot and killed a kid over the boarder on Mexican soil But
the US won't let the Mexicans extradite him . Basically tuff Jose..
jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:would be considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of
On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 11:52:47 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:
On 22/02/2017 9:15 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 12:00:50 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid> >> > wrote:
On 20/02/17 17:53, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done anything that
This article gives some background to teh case and this decision
I'm with you Roger.
NZ's cops and spies have done a dirty deal with the yanks, dug
themselves into a deep hole with their incompetence, and are
determined to keep digging in the hope of providing themselves
a ladder out of the shit.
And the courts are playing ball with the cops for reasons of
their own. Laughing stock the whole shower of them.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00226/dotcom-legal-team-on-high-court-judgment.htm
It's a Dot Con press release you moronic marxist muppet! About as much
truth in it as anything you've posted in this ng over the years. Though >> the spelling is much superiour to yours Rich:)
Pooh
And also to yours, as you unwittingly demonstrate.
It looks like the US has a selective morality when it comes to
extradition. They want extradite KDC who hasn't committed any crime
in NZ or US
. Compare this to the case of a US boarder guard on US
soil who shot and killed a kid over the boarder on Mexican soil But
the US won't let the Mexicans extradite him . Basically tuff Jose..
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/89593559/the-case-of-the-bullet-fired-in-us-that-killed-a-teenager-in-mexico
On Wednesday, February 22, 2017 at 11:52:47 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:him to a country that might well put him away for twenty years! Have our government and courts gone soft in the head? Why should we assist the Americans to get their hands on him when we would not consider for a moment doing so if the demanding country
On 22/02/2017 9:15 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2017 12:00:50 +1300, greybeard <nobody@nowhere.invalid>
wrote:
On 20/02/17 17:53, Roger Dewhurst wrote:
I see that the Dot Com issue is still unresolved.
Dot Com was never in the USA. Dot Com has not done anything that would be considered a crime here or at least nothing that would get him more than a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. Nevertheless we are entertaining the idea of deporting
This article gives some background to teh case and this decision
I'm with you Roger.
NZ's cops and spies have done a dirty deal with the yanks, dug
themselves into a deep hole with their incompetence, and are
determined to keep digging in the hope of providing themselves
a ladder out of the shit.
And the courts are playing ball with the cops for reasons of
their own. Laughing stock the whole shower of them.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1702/S00226/dotcom-legal-team-on-high-court-judgment.htm
It's a Dot Con press release you moronic marxist muppet! About as much
truth in it as anything you've posted in this ng over the years. Though
the spelling is much superiour to yours Rich:)
Pooh
And also to yours, as you unwittingly demonstrate.
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