Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new POTUS:exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the platitudes according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office.
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his ownnarcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden, bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbillyhobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new POTUS: exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the platitudes according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office.
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his own narcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden, bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbilly hobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new POTUS:exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the platitudes according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office.
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his ownnarcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden, bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbillyhobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 02:52:06 -0800 (PST), jmschristophers@gmail.comOnly in the sense that he 'might' believe that New Zealand should become a republic which has yet to be evidenced. He is absolutely not a Republican in the US political sense, something that you clearly understand but are happy to lie about.
wrote:
Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new POTUS: >>exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the platitudes >>according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office.
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his own >>narcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden, >>bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred
Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbilly >>hobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be >>swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
Trump almost certainly would have had speaking notes - possibly sent
from the embassy in Wellington. He is doing three countries a day; a
mix of important countries and "friends" - New Zealand being higher on
the list than would be expected because we spy for the US through
5-eyes and Bill English is a "Republican".
There would have beenThere is no reason for him to think that we are "on his side", your snide remarks are shameful. Your understanding of international diplomacy is pitiful.
platitudes aplenty, including congratulations on taking over from John
Key who had been appreciated as a close friend of the United States,
and possibly even an offer of having a person from National over to
see how the Trump campaign worked. Mutual congratulations over, there
may have been a comment on the importance of trade, and that would
have been about it. We are unlikely to ever see the transcript, or get
more from English about what was said - I agree with it being bromides
and platitudes. Trump would have gone on to his next task knowing that
New Zealand is on his side and doesn't need to be thought of again for
a year or so.
The call andthe media hype showed me that the Nat spin machine still
works well with the friends in media - English needed a distraction
from Waitangi; being suitably supine for a call from Trump would not
have been news except for them relying on anything Trump being
newsworthy . . .
Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new POTUS:exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the platitudes according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office.
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his ownnarcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden, bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbillyhobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
On 2/9/2017 11:52 PM, jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new POTUS: exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the platitudes according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office.
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his own narcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden, bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbilly hobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
He is President Trump.
Pretty much sums it up.
And the left hate him so what is there to dislike
On 9/02/2017 11:52 p.m., jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new POTUS: exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the platitudes according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office.
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his own narcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden, bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbilly hobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
Seems angry little Andy is wrong. English showed great leadership skills.
The call andthe media hype showed me that the Nat spin machine still
works well with the friends in media - English needed a distraction
from Waitangi; being suitably supine for a call from Trump would not
have been news except for them relying on anything Trump being
newsworthy . . .
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:pitiful.
There is no reason for him to think that we are "on his side", your snide remarks are shameful. Your understanding of international diplomacy is
The call andthe media hype showed me that the Nat spin machine still
works well with the friends in media - English needed a distraction
from Waitangi; being suitably supine for a call from Trump would not
have been news except for them relying on anything Trump being
newsworthy . . .
On 2017-02-09, Pooh <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 9/02/2017 11:52 p.m., jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:Thanks Pooh. How was your honey collection this time?
Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new POTUS: exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the platitudes according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office.
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his own narcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden, bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbilly hobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
Seems angry little Andy is wrong. English showed great leadership skills.
BTW, you posting has made my week. Could you please refrain from using the word leadership when refering to the PM. Or at least show why he has shown any.
Labour meanwhile are still trying to find the target, when they do, honey might be hard to find.
On 2017-02-10, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
There is no reason for him to think that we are "on his side", your snide
remarks are shameful. Your understanding of international diplomacy is pitiful.
Your view point.
The point Rich was making is the the POTUS would/does see National Party as >being red in the U S of A terms. ie Rub. Thus buddies we are.
On 2017-02-09, Rich80105 <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
The call andthe media hype showed me that the Nat spin machine still
works well with the friends in media - English needed a distraction
from Waitangi; being suitably supine for a call from Trump would not
have been news except for them relying on anything Trump being
newsworthy . . .
You may have these words quoted back to you Rich.
Where is Pooh, out seeking Honey? Oh well.
Look POTUS, is news. I mean many people won lots of money by saying he would get in and now that he is there in the Whitehouse, ones curiousity is raised and needed for the US of A kind of rules, OK or not.
On 2017-02-09, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 2/9/2017 11:52 PM, jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new POTUS: exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the platitudes according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office.
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his own narcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden, bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbilly hobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
He is President Trump.
Pretty much sums it up.
And the left hate him so what is there to dislike
The possibility of the second Civil war in the US of A.
You need to have to armed groups to have a civil war Gordon.
On 2017-02-09, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
On 2/9/2017 11:52 PM, jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new POTUS: exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the platitudes according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office.
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his own narcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden, bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbilly hobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
He is President Trump.
Pretty much sums it up.
And the left hate him so what is there to dislike
The possibility of the second Civil war in the US of A.
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 10:21:56 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:gun in every home and at least one arsenal in every street.
(snip)
You need to have to armed groups to have a civil war Gordon.
In the US both left and right are already armed to the teeth: at least one
So, the US is already set up for mass civilian bloodshed. Even infants arenow routinely handling deadly weapons with associated accidental shootings and
Our Brave New World, with the good old US of A proudly leading the way!
On 2/10/2017 10:26 PM, jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:gun in every home and at least one arsenal in every street.
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 10:21:56 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:
(snip)
You need to have to armed groups to have a civil war Gordon.
In the US both left and right are already armed to the teeth: at least one
now routinely handling deadly weapons with associated accidental shootings andSo, the US is already set up for mass civilian bloodshed. Even infants are
Our Brave New World, with the good old US of A proudly leading the way!
Those weapons have been around in the populations hands for something
like 300 years.
So far there has been no civil wars, a few massacres and mass shooting
yes, but no war..
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:27:51 PM UTC+2, george wrote:deaths being recorded like never before. And violent bloody computer war-gaming is
On 2/10/2017 10:26 PM, jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 10:21:56 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:
(snip)
You need to have to armed groups to have a civil war Gordon.
In the US both left and right are already armed to the teeth: at least one gun in every home and at least one arsenal in every street.
So, the US is already set up for mass civilian bloodshed. Even infants are now routinely handling deadly weapons with associated accidental shootings and
into account that Trump can't be the US's only mad but persuasive demagogue to influence the disaffected and disenfranchised masses.
Our Brave New World, with the good old US of A proudly leading the way!
Those weapons have been around in the populations hands for something
like 300 years.
So far there has been no civil wars, a few massacres and mass shooting
yes, but no war..
Then check the history of the US between 1861 and 1865.
And 'so far' does not rule out future civilian conflict, nor does it take
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 10:21:56 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:gun in every home and at least one arsenal in every street.
(snip)
You need to have to armed groups to have a civil war Gordon.
In the US both left and right are already armed to the teeth: at least one
So, the US is already set up for mass civilian bloodshed. Even infants arenow routinely handling deadly weapons with associated accidental shootings and
Our Brave New World, with the good old US of A proudly leading the way!
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:27:51 PM UTC+2, george wrote:deaths being recorded like never before. And violent bloody computer war-gaming is
On 2/10/2017 10:26 PM, jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 10:21:56 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:
(snip)
You need to have to armed groups to have a civil war Gordon.
In the US both left and right are already armed to the teeth: at least one gun in every home and at least one arsenal in every street.
So, the US is already set up for mass civilian bloodshed. Even infants are now routinely handling deadly weapons with associated accidental shootings and
into account that Trump can't be the US's only mad but persuasive demagogue to influence the disaffected and disenfranchised masses.
Our Brave New World, with the good old US of A proudly leading the way!
Those weapons have been around in the populations hands for something
like 300 years.
So far there has been no civil wars, a few massacres and mass shooting
yes, but no war..
Then check the history of the US between 1861 and 1865.
And 'so far' does not rule out future civilian conflict, nor does it take
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:27:51 PM UTC+2, george wrote:gun in every home and at least one arsenal in every street.
On 2/10/2017 10:26 PM, jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 10:21:56 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:
(snip)
You need to have to armed groups to have a civil war Gordon.
In the US both left and right are already armed to the teeth: at least one
now routinely handling deadly weapons with associated accidental shootings and
So, the US is already set up for mass civilian bloodshed. Even infants are
account that Trump can't be the US's only mad but persuasive demagogue to influence the disaffected and disenfranchised masses.
Our Brave New World, with the good old US of A proudly leading the way!
Those weapons have been around in the populations hands for something
like 300 years.
So far there has been no civil wars, a few massacres and mass shooting
yes, but no war..
Then check the history of the US between 1861 and 1865.
And 'so far' does not rule out future civilian conflict, nor does it take into
On 2/10/2017 6:13 PM, Gordon wrote:Maybe so but more likely bitter that the election was not democratic, at the same time the Republicans have shown themselves to be the mysoginistic, racist red neck side.
On 2017-02-09, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:No.
On 2/9/2017 11:52 PM, jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
Bill English did what any NZ PM must do when first speaking with a new >>>>POTUS: exchange the outworn banalities and deliver the bromides and the >>>>platitudes according to protocol, these being the "musts" of high office. >>>>
But one might wonder how a mega-million city slicker high on his own >>>>narcissism might judge the voice of a far-off New Zealander, with his leaden,
bucolic drawl? Mental images of Buddy Ebsen? Or Wurzel Gummidge? Or even Fred
Dagg?
A cultural and diplomatic challenge for Trump? Or an ineffectual hillbilly >>>>hobbit to be seduced when needed and, ultimately, corralled? Or simply to be
swotted away as he might any sandfly?
What's your take?
He is President Trump.
Pretty much sums it up.
And the left hate him so what is there to dislike
The possibility of the second Civil war in the US of A.
The rioters are only there until some-one declares martial law.
The snow flakes will disappear when the heat is applied.
What has changed is that the left have shown themselves to be the
violent nasty side of US politics...
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:07:56 -0800 (PST), jmschristophers@gmail.comone gun in every home and at least one arsenal in every street.
wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:27:51 PM UTC+2, george wrote:
On 2/10/2017 10:26 PM, jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 10:21:56 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:
(snip)
You need to have to armed groups to have a civil war Gordon.
In the US both left and right are already armed to the teeth: at least
are now routinely handling deadly weapons with associated accidental shootings and deaths being recorded like never before. And violent bloody computer war-gaming is
So, the US is already set up for mass civilian bloodshed. Even infants
into account that Trump can't be the US's only mad but persuasive demagogue to influence the disaffected and disenfranchised masses.
Our Brave New World, with the good old US of A proudly leading the way! >> >
Those weapons have been around in the populations hands for something
like 300 years.
So far there has been no civil wars, a few massacres and mass shooting
yes, but no war..
Then check the history of the US between 1861 and 1865.
And 'so far' does not rule out future civilian conflict, nor does it take
Id there any other country that has been as consistently at war with
someone as the USA over the last 100 years?
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 13:07:56 -0800 (PST), jmschristophers@gmail.comgun in every home and at least one arsenal in every street.
wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:27:51 PM UTC+2, george wrote:
On 2/10/2017 10:26 PM, jmschristophers@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 10:21:56 AM UTC+2, Pooh wrote:
(snip)
You need to have to armed groups to have a civil war Gordon.
In the US both left and right are already armed to the teeth: at least one
now routinely handling deadly weapons with associated accidental shootings and
So, the US is already set up for mass civilian bloodshed. Even infants are
Our Brave New World, with the good old US of A proudly leading the way! >>>>
Those weapons have been around in the populations hands for something
like 300 years.
So far there has been no civil wars, a few massacres and mass shooting
yes, but no war..
Then check the history of the US between 1861 and 1865.
And 'so far' does not rule out future civilian conflict, nor does it take into account that Trump can't be the US's only mad but persuasive demagogue to influence the disaffected and disenfranchised masses.
Id there any other country that has been as consistently at war with
someone as the USA over the last 100 years?
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