On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:06:45 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html >>>>
So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at twice >>>> the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', the >>>> GFC *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links.
https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it
can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

It's a shame there is no other viable party in NZ. The opposition is >laughably incompetent and unworthy to lead.

Such blatant avoidance of the topic and attempt to divert is not your
usual style, Allistar.

There is really little to argue about unless you have National's
fixation with not addressing problems - even ACT understand betterthan National:
http://www.act.org.nz/posts/david-seymour-state-of-the-nation-speech

HAve you looked at any of the articles through the link I gave?

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On 25/01/2017 2:56 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html

So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at twice the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', the GFC *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links. https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it
can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

A cite from TheStranded? Hardly an unbiased and non-political commentary
Rich. Funny how often you use this pack of failed marxist muppets to
support your pipe dreams.

Trouble is New Zealand hasn't got anyone capable of doing a better job
than National has been doing Rich.

Pooh

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On 25/01/2017 3:27 p.m., Tony wrote:

Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html >>>>
So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at twice >>>> the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', the GFC >>>> *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links.
https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it
can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

Who?
The Labour party that is incompetent, Greens who are allied with people who deliberately put lives at risk on the high seas, Winston Peters who is beginning to lose it? Ah I know - the self made millionaire who believes that cats are evil incarnate despite the opposite views of real animal experts!
Oh and your quote by Mr. English is out of context he was referring to one aspect of governmnet only but then you don't mind misleading anybody naive enough to be taken in do you?
Tony

This will put it into a better perspective while getting Rich to grind
any teeth he may have... http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2016/03/real_net_minimum_wage_now_11_higher_than_under_labour.html
. Yet another example of Labours failure to actually achieve anything
that may have helped workers.

Pooh

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On 25/01/2017 4:01 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:06:45 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html >>>>>
So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at twice >>>>> the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', the >>>>> GFC *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links.
https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it
can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

It's a shame there is no other viable party in NZ. The opposition is
laughably incompetent and unworthy to lead.

Such blatant avoidance of the topic and attempt to divert is not your
usual style, Allistar.

Oh dear! Poor widdle Wichies getting his pink knickers in a twist
because Allistar pointed out the bloody obvious.

There is really little to argue about unless you have National's
fixation with not addressing problems - even ACT understand betterthan National: http://www.act.org.nz/posts/david-seymour-state-of-the-nation-speech

Waffling again Wichie? Or just desperate to get away from the topic
which you in the past have falsely claimed?

HAve you looked at any of the articles through the link I gave?

No need. They'll just be more of the same bullshit waffle we put up with
from you Wichie.

Pooh

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Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:06:45 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html >>>>>
So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at
twice the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', the >>>>> GFC *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links.
https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it
can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

It's a shame there is no other viable party in NZ. The opposition is >>laughably incompetent and unworthy to lead.

Such blatant avoidance of the topic and attempt to divert is not your
usual style, Allistar.

I wasn't commenting on "the topic", I was responding to your comment that
"it's time to give someone else a go". Who else would you suggest? I don't
see any other political organisation that is capable of leading.

Labour and the Greens don't even elect their MP's using democratic
processes.

HAve you looked at any of the articles through the link I gave?

No. Your posts are becoming ever increasingly vacuous and my attention span towards them is at an all time low.
--
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

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On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 10:58:11 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:06:45 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html >>>>>>
So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at >>>>>> twice the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', the >>>>>> GFC *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links.
https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it >>>> can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

It's a shame there is no other viable party in NZ. The opposition is >>>laughably incompetent and unworthy to lead.

Such blatant avoidance of the topic and attempt to divert is not your
usual style, Allistar.

I wasn't commenting on "the topic", I was responding to your comment that >"it's time to give someone else a go". Who else would you suggest? I don't >see any other political organisation that is capable of leading.

Labour and the Greens don't even elect their MP's using democratic
processes.

HAve you looked at any of the articles through the link I gave?

No. Your posts are becoming ever increasingly vacuous and my attention span >towards them is at an all time low.

Closed and intolerant minds tend not to want to listen to reasonable
argument . . .

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Rich80105 wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 10:58:11 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:06:45 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html

So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at >>>>>>> twice the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', >>>>>>> the GFC *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links.
https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it >>>>> can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

It's a shame there is no other viable party in NZ. The opposition is >>>>laughably incompetent and unworthy to lead.

Such blatant avoidance of the topic and attempt to divert is not your
usual style, Allistar.

I wasn't commenting on "the topic", I was responding to your comment that >>"it's time to give someone else a go". Who else would you suggest? I don't >>see any other political organisation that is capable of leading.

Labour and the Greens don't even elect their MP's using democratic >>processes.

HAve you looked at any of the articles through the link I gave?

No. Your posts are becoming ever increasingly vacuous and my attention
span towards them is at an all time low.

Closed and intolerant minds tend not to want to listen to reasonable
argument . . .

Open and free thinking minds are still waiting for a reasonable argument.
--
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

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On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:01:59 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 10:58:11 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:06:45 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html >>>>>>>
So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at >>>>>>> twice the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', the >>>>>>> GFC *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links.
https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it >>>>> can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

It's a shame there is no other viable party in NZ. The opposition is >>>>laughably incompetent and unworthy to lead.

Such blatant avoidance of the topic and attempt to divert is not your
usual style, Allistar.

I wasn't commenting on "the topic", I was responding to your comment that >>"it's time to give someone else a go". Who else would you suggest? I don't >>see any other political organisation that is capable of leading.

Labour and the Greens don't even elect their MP's using democratic >>processes.

HAve you looked at any of the articles through the link I gave?

No. Your posts are becoming ever increasingly vacuous and my attention span >>towards them is at an all time low.

Closed and intolerant minds tend not to want to listen to reasonable
argument . . .

That seems a bit hard. He seemed to be responding to what you said.

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On 26/01/2017 4:14 p.m., Sam wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:01:59 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 10:58:11 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:06:45 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>>

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html >>>>>>>>
So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at >>>>>>>> twice the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', the >>>>>>>> GFC *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links.
https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it >>>>>> can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

It's a shame there is no other viable party in NZ. The opposition is >>>>> laughably incompetent and unworthy to lead.

Such blatant avoidance of the topic and attempt to divert is not your
usual style, Allistar.

I wasn't commenting on "the topic", I was responding to your comment that >>> "it's time to give someone else a go". Who else would you suggest? I don't >>> see any other political organisation that is capable of leading.

Labour and the Greens don't even elect their MP's using democratic
processes.

HAve you looked at any of the articles through the link I gave?

No. Your posts are becoming ever increasingly vacuous and my attention span >>> towards them is at an all time low.

Closed and intolerant minds tend not to want to listen to reasonable
argument . . .

That seems a bit hard. He seemed to be responding to what you said.

Sam. Hate to prick your bubble but one thing Rich doesn't have is an
open and tolerant mind. Especially when Labours shortcomings are mentioned.

Pooh

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On 26/01/2017 1:01 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:

On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 10:58:11 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:06:45 +1300, Allistar <me@hiddenaddress.com>
wrote:

Rich80105 wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>>>

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html >>>>>>>
So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at >>>>>>> twice the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', the >>>>>>> GFC *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links.
https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it >>>>> can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

It's a shame there is no other viable party in NZ. The opposition is
laughably incompetent and unworthy to lead.

Such blatant avoidance of the topic and attempt to divert is not your
usual style, Allistar.

I wasn't commenting on "the topic", I was responding to your comment that
"it's time to give someone else a go". Who else would you suggest? I don't >> see any other political organisation that is capable of leading.

Labour and the Greens don't even elect their MP's using democratic
processes.

HAve you looked at any of the articles through the link I gave?

No. Your posts are becoming ever increasingly vacuous and my attention span >> towards them is at an all time low.

Closed and intolerant minds tend not to want to listen to reasonable
argument . . .

Yet another perfect description of YOU Rich.

Pooh

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On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:56:16 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jan 2017 08:16:18 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 1/25/2017 7:50 AM, JohnO wrote:

http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/2017/01/the_minimum_wage_under_national.html

So over the term of this government, the minimum wage has grown at twice the rate of inflation - a whopping 31%.

And all against the backdrop of an inherited 'decade of deficits', the GFC *and* the Christchurch earthquakes.

But the unions say that its not enough..
Maybe they haven't been told by their masters

Haven't been told what?
Here is a summary with plenty of supporting links. >https://thestandard.org.nz/minimum-wage-increase-doesnt-meet-real-costs-the-cpi-is-broken/

And English has given up - he says that the government has done all it
can, there is nothing more that can be done . . .

Time to give someone else a go

Who would that be Rich? TOP? That's no more laughable than Labour,
the Greens and NZF.




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