http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88223249/pm-bill-english-wont-attend-waitangi-day-commemorations
(what a pity the journalist cannot correctly use decent English!)
Is he disrespectful because he is not prepared to be gagged (despite being >prepared to speak without any political overtones)? It is disrespectful to >forbid the PM to speak at Waitangi
Is he being disrespectful because he does not want smelly brown stuff thrown >in his face by probably unemployable no-hopers?
Is he being disrespectful because he does not wish to witness an extremely fat >and unattractive bum bared before him?
Is he being disrespectful because he believes in democracy and fairness and a >tiny vocal minority want to force their perverse opinions on this country? >The answer is no to all of the above. The stupid, inarticulate minority that >attempts to destroy our democracy are at fault here. Good on you Prime >Minister, let them bare their bums at each other!
As an aside; Andrew Little is a disgrace to the principles of his previously >principled party!
Abandon Waitangi Day I say and replace it on another date by true New Zealand >Day!
Tony
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88223249/pm-bill-english-wont-attend-waitangi-day-commemorations
(what a pity the journalist cannot correctly use decent English!)
Is he disrespectful because he is not prepared to be gagged (despite being prepared to speak without any political overtones)? It is disrespectful to forbid the PM to speak at Waitangi
Is he being disrespectful because he does not want smelly brown stuff
thrown in his face by probably unemployable no-hopers?
Is he being disrespectful because he does not wish to witness an extremely fat and unattractive bum bared before him?
Is he being disrespectful because he believes in democracy and fairness
and a tiny vocal minority want to force their perverse opinions on this country? The answer is no to all of the above. The stupid, inarticulate minority that attempts to destroy our democracy are at fault here. Good on you Prime Minister, let them bare their bums at each other!
As an aside; Andrew Little is a disgrace to the principles of his
previously principled party!
Abandon Waitangi Day I say and replace it on another date by true New
Zealand Day!
Tony
While I support the PM's stand in the circumstances, we can and should
still celebrate Waitangi day.
While the marae at Waitangi is symbolic because of its connection to
the signing of the Treaty, the commemorations there on February 6th
don't celebrate history but provide a forum for disrespect of our PM
and political protest on current issues. The PM is right to choose to
be somewhere else that day.
On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 00:06:27 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88223249/pm-bill-english-wont-attend-waitangi-day-commemorations
(what a pity the journalist cannot correctly use decent English!)
Is he disrespectful because he is not prepared to be gagged (despite being >>prepared to speak without any political overtones)? It is disrespectful to >>forbid the PM to speak at Waitangi
Is he being disrespectful because he does not want smelly brown stuff thrown >>in his face by probably unemployable no-hopers?
Is he being disrespectful because he does not wish to witness an extremely >>fat
and unattractive bum bared before him?
Is he being disrespectful because he believes in democracy and fairness and a >>tiny vocal minority want to force their perverse opinions on this country? >>The answer is no to all of the above. The stupid, inarticulate minority that >>attempts to destroy our democracy are at fault here. Good on you Prime >>Minister, let them bare their bums at each other!
As an aside; Andrew Little is a disgrace to the principles of his previously >>principled party!
Abandon Waitangi Day I say and replace it on another date by true New Zealand >>Day!
Tony
While I support the PM's stand in the circumstances, we can and should
still celebrate Waitangi day.
While the marae at Waitangi is symbolic because of its connection to
the signing of the Treaty, the commemorations there on February 6th
don't celebrate history but provide a forum for disrespect of our PM
and political protest on current issues. The PM is right to choose to
be somewhere else that day.
--Sad though, it is a wasted opportunity for people to come together and celbrate our diversity and our shared values.
Crash McBash
wrote:I don't disagree. It is immoral to prevent women from speaking but my point was that it is not simply wrong but downright offensive to prevent the leader of a country from speaking on such an occasion, I am sure that no PM in that environment would use the occasion to make political points. The whole thing has become a farce and most Maori (all the ones I know anyway) agree.
(what a pity the journalist cannot correctly use decent English!)http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88223249/pm-bill-english-wont-attend-waitangi-day-commemorations
Is he disrespectful because he is not prepared to be gagged (despite being >> prepared to speak without any political overtones)? It is disrespectful to >> forbid the PM to speak at Waitangi
Is he being disrespectful because he does not want smelly brown stuff
thrown in his face by probably unemployable no-hopers?
Is he being disrespectful because he does not wish to witness an extremely >> fat and unattractive bum bared before him?
Is he being disrespectful because he believes in democracy and fairness
and a tiny vocal minority want to force their perverse opinions on this
country? The answer is no to all of the above. The stupid, inarticulate
minority that attempts to destroy our democracy are at fault here. Good on >> you Prime Minister, let them bare their bums at each other!
As an aside; Andrew Little is a disgrace to the principles of his
previously principled party!
Abandon Waitangi Day I say and replace it on another date by true New
Zealand Day!
Tony
It's immoral that the movement and speech of women in such events it >restricted. The 21st century is no place for such bigotry. I don't care >whether this is "culture". The individual rights of people trump culture >every day of the week. And no, it's not disrespect to want to be treated as >an equal human even if it's against someone's cultural norms.
--
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." >creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.
On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 00:06:27 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88223249/pm-bill-english-wont-attend-waitangi-day-commemorations
(what a pity the journalist cannot correctly use decent English!)
Is he disrespectful because he is not prepared to be gagged (despite being >>prepared to speak without any political overtones)? It is disrespectful to >>forbid the PM to speak at Waitangi
Is he being disrespectful because he does not want smelly brown stuff thrown >>in his face by probably unemployable no-hopers?
Is he being disrespectful because he does not wish to witness an extremely >>fat
and unattractive bum bared before him?
Is he being disrespectful because he believes in democracy and fairness and a >>tiny vocal minority want to force their perverse opinions on this country? >>The answer is no to all of the above. The stupid, inarticulate minority that >>attempts to destroy our democracy are at fault here. Good on you Prime >>Minister, let them bare their bums at each other!
As an aside; Andrew Little is a disgrace to the principles of his previously >>principled party!
Abandon Waitangi Day I say and replace it on another date by true New Zealand >>Day!
Tony
While I support the PM's stand in the circumstances, we can and should
still celebrate Waitangi day.
While the marae at Waitangi is symbolic because of its connection to
the signing of the Treaty, the commemorations there on February 6th
don't celebrate history but provide a forum for disrespect of our PM
and political protest on current issues. The PM is right to choose to
be somewhere else that day.
--See http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88304787/ngapuhi-elder-kingi-taurua-ashamed-of-his-iwis-treatment-of-bill-english
Crash McBash
On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 00:06:27 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88223249/pm-bill-english-wont-attend-waitangi-day-commemorations
(what a pity the journalist cannot correctly use decent English!)
Is he disrespectful because he is not prepared to be gagged (despite being >> prepared to speak without any political overtones)? It is disrespectful to >> forbid the PM to speak at Waitangi
Is he being disrespectful because he does not want smelly brown stuff thrown
in his face by probably unemployable no-hopers?
Is he being disrespectful because he does not wish to witness an extremely fat
and unattractive bum bared before him?
Is he being disrespectful because he believes in democracy and fairness and a
tiny vocal minority want to force their perverse opinions on this country? >> The answer is no to all of the above. The stupid, inarticulate minority that >> attempts to destroy our democracy are at fault here. Good on you Prime
Minister, let them bare their bums at each other!
As an aside; Andrew Little is a disgrace to the principles of his previously >> principled party!
Abandon Waitangi Day I say and replace it on another date by true New Zealand
Day!
Tony
While I support the PM's stand in the circumstances, we can and should
still celebrate Waitangi day.
While the marae at Waitangi is symbolic because of its connection to
the signing of the Treaty, the commemorations there on February 6th
don't celebrate history but provide a forum for disrespect of our PM
and political protest on current issues. The PM is right to choose to
be somewhere else that day.
--
Crash McBash
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 00:06:27 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netSee http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88304787/ngapuhi-elder-kingi-taurua-ashamed-of-his-iwis-treatment-of-bill-english
dot nz> wrote:
(what a pity the journalist cannot correctly use decent English!)http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88223249/pm-bill-english-wont-attend-waitangi-day-commemorations
Is he disrespectful because he is not prepared to be gagged (despite being >>>prepared to speak without any political overtones)? It is disrespectful to >>>forbid the PM to speak at Waitangi
Is he being disrespectful because he does not want smelly brown stuff thrown
in his face by probably unemployable no-hopers?
Is he being disrespectful because he does not wish to witness an extremely >>>fat
and unattractive bum bared before him?
Is he being disrespectful because he believes in democracy and fairness and a
tiny vocal minority want to force their perverse opinions on this country? >>>The answer is no to all of the above. The stupid, inarticulate minority that >>>attempts to destroy our democracy are at fault here. Good on you Prime >>>Minister, let them bare their bums at each other!
As an aside; Andrew Little is a disgrace to the principles of his previously >>>principled party!
Abandon Waitangi Day I say and replace it on another date by true New Zealand
Day!
Tony
While I support the PM's stand in the circumstances, we can and should >>still celebrate Waitangi day.
While the marae at Waitangi is symbolic because of its connection to
the signing of the Treaty, the commemorations there on February 6th
don't celebrate history but provide a forum for disrespect of our PM
and political protest on current issues. The PM is right to choose to
be somewhere else that day.
--
Crash McBash
I feel much better for reading that - an intelligent and thoughtful response from someone who understands the imperatives of living in the same country as people from differing backgrounds.
Tony
On 2017-01-11, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I agree!
Crash <nogood@dontbother.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 00:06:27 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netSee
dot nz> wrote:
(what a pity the journalist cannot correctly use decent English!)http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88223249/pm-bill-english-wont-attend-waitangi-day-commemorations
Is he disrespectful because he is not prepared to be gagged (despite being >>>>prepared to speak without any political overtones)? It is disrespectful to >>>>forbid the PM to speak at Waitangi
Is he being disrespectful because he does not want smelly brown stuff >>>>thrown
in his face by probably unemployable no-hopers?
Is he being disrespectful because he does not wish to witness an extremely >>>>fat
and unattractive bum bared before him?
Is he being disrespectful because he believes in democracy and fairness and >>>>a
tiny vocal minority want to force their perverse opinions on this country? >>>>The answer is no to all of the above. The stupid, inarticulate minority >>>>that
attempts to destroy our democracy are at fault here. Good on you Prime >>>>Minister, let them bare their bums at each other!
As an aside; Andrew Little is a disgrace to the principles of his >>>>previously
principled party!
Abandon Waitangi Day I say and replace it on another date by true New >>>>Zealand
Day!
Tony
While I support the PM's stand in the circumstances, we can and should >>>still celebrate Waitangi day.
While the marae at Waitangi is symbolic because of its connection to
the signing of the Treaty, the commemorations there on February 6th
don't celebrate history but provide a forum for disrespect of our PM
and political protest on current issues. The PM is right to choose to
be somewhere else that day.
--
Crash McBash
I feel much better for reading that - an intelligent and thoughtful response >> from someone who understands the imperatives of living in the same country >>ashttp://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/88304787/ngapuhi-elder-kingi-taurua-ashamed-of-his-iwis-treatment-of-bill-english
people from differing backgrounds.
Tony
It always amazes me how people can talk about a group of people and assume >they all hold the same viewpoint. There are many Maori in NZ and most of
them are moderate. They defend, and explain things of value to them but
do not wish nor the feel the need to to get anti social in their behaviour.
Waitangi Day should be about this Country and its people and history in a >good way. Other countries celebrate the birth of their country. It should >bring people together and give a sense of pride to being a Kiwi.
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