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  • Re: New Age of Instability?

    From Allistar@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, February 18, 2016 09:36:52
    Rich80105 wrote:

    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be
    stable

    Labour haven't been able to find a credible leader since Helen Clark
    abandoned them. A party with no credible leader is not stable.

    - although the current government will cause some damage in the
    time they have left.

    Which at this rate will be another couple of terms. Thanks to a lack of
    decent opposition.
    --
    "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
    creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Allistar on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 12:58:48
    On Thursday, 18 February 2016 09:36:55 UTC+13, Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be stable

    Labour haven't been able to find a credible leader since Helen Clark abandoned them. A party with no credible leader is not stable.

    Indeed. And can Dickbot tell us how many leaders Labour has had since 2008 and what he thinks this says about Labour's stability?


    - although the current government will cause some damage in the
    time they have left.

    Which at this rate will be another couple of terms. Thanks to a lack of decent opposition.

    And lack of stable opposition too.

    --
    "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, February 18, 2016 09:24:49
    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be
    stable - although the current government will cause some damage in the
    time they have left.

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  • From Anymouse@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, February 18, 2016 10:22:19
    Rich80105 wrote:

    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be
    stable - although the current government will cause some damage in the
    time they have left.

    Soooo - in a matter of flagging interest the fact that a majority of Party
    MPs support the Prime Minister is a sign of disastrous instability? Wow!

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:49:10
    On 18/02/2016 9:58 a.m., JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 February 2016 09:36:55 UTC+13, Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be
    stable

    Labour haven't been able to find a credible leader since Helen Clark
    abandoned them. A party with no credible leader is not stable.

    Indeed. And can Dickbot tell us how many leaders Labour has had since 2008
    and what he thinks this says about Labour's stability?


    The interesting point there is Labour are between a rock and a hard
    place. Replacing Little would make them the laughing stock of NZ
    politics after Goff, Shearer, Cunliffe all failing in Key's time -
    leaving him there puts them in a no hope situation.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:50:43
    On Thu, 18 Feb 2016 10:22:19 +1300, Anymouse <someone@somewhere.com>
    wrote:

    Rich80105 wrote:

    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be
    stable - although the current government will cause some damage in the
    time they have left.

    Soooo - in a matter of flagging interest the fact that a majority of Party >MPs support the Prime Minister is a sign of disastrous instability? Wow!

    Certainly a majority did at one time - indeed when the flag referndum legislation was passed atempts to improve the bias and low quality
    process and consultation were brushed aside, with every National MP
    voting fr the legislation. Apparently dissent is such that it is now
    merely a conscience issue for National MPs - will some of them even be
    able to find a conscience?

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:43:06
    On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:58:48 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, 18 February 2016 09:36:55 UTC+13, Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be
    stable

    Labour haven't been able to find a credible leader since Helen Clark
    abandoned them. A party with no credible leader is not stable.

    Indeed. And can Dickbot tell us how many leaders Labour has had since 2008 and
    what he thinks this says about Labour's stability?

    Your questions seems a bit off topic - or do you think that since
    National often follows Labour its time for another National leader?
    2002 again?



    - although the current government will cause some damage in the
    time they have left.

    Which at this rate will be another couple of terms. Thanks to a lack of
    decent opposition.

    And lack of stable opposition too.

    National seem to be destrying themselves quite successfully, don't you
    agree?


    --
    "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
    creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Allistar@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, February 18, 2016 12:07:23
    Rich80105 wrote:

    On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:58:48 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, 18 February 2016 09:36:55 UTC+13, Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be >>> > stable

    Labour haven't been able to find a credible leader since Helen Clark
    abandoned them. A party with no credible leader is not stable.

    Indeed. And can Dickbot tell us how many leaders Labour has had since 2008 >>and what he thinks this says about Labour's stability?

    Your questions seems a bit off topic - or do you think that since
    National often follows Labour its time for another National leader?
    2002 again?

    You're the one that said a Labour government would be stable. We're pointing out that their leadership situation is very unstable.

    - although the current government will cause some damage in the
    time they have left.

    Which at this rate will be another couple of terms. Thanks to a lack of
    decent opposition.

    And lack of stable opposition too.

    National seem to be destrying themselves quite successfully, don't you
    agree?

    No, and the polls support me in that.
    --
    "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
    creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)
  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, February 19, 2016 20:34:27
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:akl9cbpinqi72tc4ssimev7p1jklgu9mv0@4ax.com...
    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be
    stable - although the current government will cause some damage in the
    time they have left.

    FFS Rich. Labour can't even get along amongst themselves as the debacle that was their opposition to TPPA proves. The current government will be happily carrying on for at least one more term while Liebor strys to sort themselves out and lose the union control that makes them anethema to the New Zealand voting public.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, February 19, 2016 20:38:28
    "Rich80105" <rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:iot9cbp6shea5f32vc37n0gnnlve5sk6b7@4ax.com...
    On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:58:48 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, 18 February 2016 09:36:55 UTC+13, Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be >>> > stable

    Labour haven't been able to find a credible leader since Helen Clark
    abandoned them. A party with no credible leader is not stable.

    Indeed. And can Dickbot tell us how many leaders Labour has had since 2008 >>and what he thinks this says about Labour's stability?

    Your questions seems a bit off topic - or do you think that since
    National often follows Labour its time for another National leader?
    2002 again?


    You were banging on about Labour stability Rich. Four leaders in eight years isn't an indication of stability it's an indication that Labour hasn't got a chance till they clean their closset out. Or some smart MP says stuff you
    and forms another left wing party to compete with them. Which can only
    presage the death of the left as a cohesive opposition.



    - although the current government will cause some damage in the
    time they have left.

    Which at this rate will be another couple of terms. Thanks to a lack of
    decent opposition.

    And lack of stable opposition too.

    National seem to be destrying themselves quite successfully, don't you
    agree?


    Once again the polls destroy this stupid lie Rich. But what can we expect
    from a trolling marxist muppet with your track record?


    --
    "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
    creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your
    needs.

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Fred on Friday, February 19, 2016 20:40:32
    "Fred" <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:na2t7n$sq0$1@dont-email.me...
    On 18/02/2016 9:58 a.m., JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 February 2016 09:36:55 UTC+13, Allistar wrote:
    Rich80105 wrote:

    https://insightnz.wordpress.com/2016/02/17/leaked-emails-herald-new-age-of-instability/

    I don't believe the article heading - a Labour/Green coalition will be >>>> stable

    Labour haven't been able to find a credible leader since Helen Clark
    abandoned them. A party with no credible leader is not stable.

    Indeed. And can Dickbot tell us how many leaders Labour has had since
    2008 and what he thinks this says about Labour's stability?


    The interesting point there is Labour are between a rock and a hard place. Replacing Little would make them the laughing stock of NZ politics after Goff, Shearer, Cunliffe all failing in Key's time - leaving him there puts them in a no hope situation.


    Wonder if King is biding her time before rolling the union stooge. Which
    wont do anything except make Labour even more unstable than it is under
    union leadership.

    Pooh

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