While the subject of who is retiring is topical ...... It's high time
The Greens dropped Mojo Mathers. I have every sympathy with her for her afflictions, but I object to paying her salary. She simply cannot
perform in the house and has obvious difficulties in normal MP duties
both in and out of the house. Appointing her to the list is ridiculos: analgous to employing a wheelchair bound postman, or someone with a
severe stutter as acradio announcer. I understand she's highly dedicated
to green party philosophy, but that's not enough.
A high salary from the taxpayer - I don't think it's justified.
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On 16/12/2016 10:11 AM, Fred wrote:
While the subject of who is retiring is topical ...... It's high time
The Greens dropped Mojo Mathers. I have every sympathy with her for her afflictions, but I object to paying her salary. She simply cannot
perform in the house and has obvious difficulties in normal MP duties
both in and out of the house. Appointing her to the list is ridiculos: analgous to employing a wheelchair bound postman, or someone with a
severe stutter as acradio announcer. I understand she's highly dedicated
to green party philosophy, but that's not enough.
A high salary from the taxpayer - I don't think it's justified.
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On 16/12/2016 10:11 AM, Fred wrote:
While the subject of who is retiring is topical ...... It's high time
The Greens dropped Mojo Mathers. I have every sympathy with her for her
afflictions, but I object to paying her salary. She simply cannot
perform in the house and has obvious difficulties in normal MP duties
both in and out of the house. Appointing her to the list is ridiculos:
analgous to employing a wheelchair bound postman, or someone with a
severe stutter as acradio announcer. I understand she's highly dedicated
to green party philosophy, but that's not enough.
A high salary from the taxpayer - I don't think it's justified.
On 2016-12-15, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On 16/12/2016 10:11 AM, Fred wrote:
While the subject of who is retiring is topical ...... It's high time
The Greens dropped Mojo Mathers. I have every sympathy with her for her
afflictions, but I object to paying her salary. She simply cannot
perform in the house and has obvious difficulties in normal MP duties
both in and out of the house. Appointing her to the list is ridiculos:
analgous to employing a wheelchair bound postman, or someone with a
severe stutter as acradio announcer. I understand she's highly dedicated >>> to green party philosophy, but that's not enough.
If the Party thinks so then all is satisfactory.
One needs to keep in mind that NZ, like other democracies, have rules in how they elect their representives.A high salary from the taxpayer - I don't think it's justified.
One can not start messing around with the system because a representive is not to ones liking. The system rules say that if you do not like the person then vote against them, or say that MMP does not work as well as it could
and we need a change.
Good grief if we had to remove usless representives from the House, it would be empty. Doubt that anyone would buy it.
On Friday, 16 December 2016 10:15:15 UTC+13, Fred wrote:can't vote out. They should ditch list MPs and just give proxy votes to the leader. If a party has no electorate seats like the Greens then they should get
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On 16/12/2016 10:11 AM, Fred wrote:
While the subject of who is retiring is topical ...... It's high time
The Greens dropped Mojo Mathers. I have every sympathy with her for her
afflictions, but I object to paying her salary. She simply cannot
perform in the house and has obvious difficulties in normal MP duties
both in and out of the house. Appointing her to the list is ridiculos:
analgous to employing a wheelchair bound postman, or someone with a
severe stutter as acradio announcer. I understand she's highly dedicated >>> to green party philosophy, but that's not enough.
A high salary from the taxpayer - I don't think it's justified.
It's pure tokenism.
This is the problem with list MPs - you get stuck with useless ones that you
On 16/12/2016 8:41 p.m., Gordon wrote:
On 2016-12-15, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:But we can't vote against the likes of Mather. She's appointed by the
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On 16/12/2016 10:11 AM, Fred wrote:
While the subject of who is retiring is topical ...... It's high time
The Greens dropped Mojo Mathers. I have every sympathy with her for her >>>> afflictions, but I object to paying her salary. She simply cannot
perform in the house and has obvious difficulties in normal MP duties
both in and out of the house. Appointing her to the list is ridiculos: >>>> analgous to employing a wheelchair bound postman, or someone with a
severe stutter as acradio announcer. I understand she's highly dedicated >>>> to green party philosophy, but that's not enough.
If the Party thinks so then all is satisfactory.
One needs to keep in mind that NZ, like other democracies, have rules in how >> they elect their representives.A high salary from the taxpayer - I don't think it's justified.
One can not start messing around with the system because a representive is >> not to ones liking. The system rules say that if you do not like the person >> then vote against them, or say that MMP does not work as well as it could
and we need a change.
Good grief if we had to remove usless representives from the House, it would >> be empty. Doubt that anyone would buy it.
party and get in by the back door as a list MP. She's just another party
goon like all the list MPs are!
On Friday, 16 December 2016 10:15:15 UTC+13, Fred wrote:
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On 16/12/2016 10:11 AM, Fred wrote:
While the subject of who is retiring is topical ...... It's high time
The Greens dropped Mojo Mathers. I have every sympathy with her for her
afflictions, but I object to paying her salary. She simply cannot
perform in the house and has obvious difficulties in normal MP duties
both in and out of the house. Appointing her to the list is ridiculos:
analgous to employing a wheelchair bound postman, or someone with a
severe stutter as acradio announcer. I understand she's highly dedicated >> > to green party philosophy, but that's not enough.
A high salary from the taxpayer - I don't think it's justified.
It's pure tokenism.
This is the problem with list MPs - you get stuck with useless ones that you can't vote out.
They should ditch list MPs and just give proxy votes to the leader. If aparty has no electorate seats like the Greens then they should get *one* list MP plus the proxies.
On Sat, 17 Dec 2016 02:50:43 +1300, Pooh <rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
On 16/12/2016 8:41 p.m., Gordon wrote:
On 2016-12-15, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:But we can't vote against the likes of Mather. She's appointed by the
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On 16/12/2016 10:11 AM, Fred wrote:
While the subject of who is retiring is topical ...... It's high time >>>>> The Greens dropped Mojo Mathers. I have every sympathy with her for her >>>>> afflictions, but I object to paying her salary. She simply cannot
perform in the house and has obvious difficulties in normal MP duties >>>>> both in and out of the house. Appointing her to the list is ridiculos: >>>>> analgous to employing a wheelchair bound postman, or someone with a
severe stutter as acradio announcer. I understand she's highly dedicated >>>>> to green party philosophy, but that's not enough.
If the Party thinks so then all is satisfactory.
One needs to keep in mind that NZ, like other democracies, have rules in howA high salary from the taxpayer - I don't think it's justified.
they elect their representives.
One can not start messing around with the system because a representive is >>> not to ones liking. The system rules say that if you do not like the person >>> then vote against them, or say that MMP does not work as well as it could >>> and we need a change.
Good grief if we had to remove usless representives from the House, it would
be empty. Doubt that anyone would buy it.
party and get in by the back door as a list MP. She's just another party
goon like all the list MPs are!
Consider who you vote for with your Party vote. Whatever that party
is you vote for their entire list - but only if their percentage of
the party vote requires a top-up from the list if they get
insufficient electorate MPs. While individual list MPs are not
directly elected the P in MMP allows a more diverse range of people
into Parliament. The FPP system results are here:
http://www.elections.org.nz/events/past-events/general-elections-1890-1993
The 1975 result is the worst case of this - National won with a total
of 32% of the votes. A few useless list MPs is a small price to pay
to right such massive wrongs that happened under FPP.
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