Having talked up the possibility of NAtional taking the seat early in
teh campaign, and the on-again off again personal support by the prime minister, this will come as an unwelcome indication that Labour is
getting its message through: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11759969
"Rich80105" wrote in message >news:gs754c59f9e5acco8eabomqi87o47qv5mu@4ax.com...You are correct, Geopelia. Social Credit were however fairly well
Having talked up the possibility of NAtional taking the seat early in
teh campaign, and the on-again off again personal support by the prime >minister, this will come as an unwelcome indication that Labour is
getting its message through: >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11759969
.........
You can't judge a party's support by a by election. Here in East Coast Bays >we once elected Social Credit in a by election, in a "safe" National seat!
Unless the result could change the government, a by election is a way to >express one's opinion of the current government, whichever party is in
power.
Geopelia
On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 00:13:18 +1300, "geopelia" <geopelia@nowhere.com>
wrote:
You are correct, Geopelia. Social Credit were however fairly well
"Rich80105" wrote in message
news:gs754c59f9e5acco8eabomqi87o47qv5mu@4ax.com...
Having talked up the possibility of NAtional taking the seat early in
teh campaign, and the on-again off again personal support by the prime
minister, this will come as an unwelcome indication that Labour is
getting its message through:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11759969
.........
You can't judge a party's support by a by election. Here in East Coast Bays >> we once elected Social Credit in a by election, in a "safe" National seat! >>
Unless the result could change the government, a by election is a way to
express one's opinion of the current government, whichever party is in
power.
Geopelia
supported through the country - the difficulty they had in getting a
seat was because their support was spread thinly over the whole
country. They are one ofthe reasons many people wanted MMP. I never
supported Social Credit, but they did deserve to have a seat in
parliament - I suspectt hat the exposure is what killed them off.
A by-election can indicate genuine concerns about a government though
- the election of Winston Peters in Northland was partly due to the
candidate National put up, but also concerns about National not
keeping its promises and ignoring Northland - I don;t think they ever
did build the bridges they promised.
Audrey Young is normally a strong supporter of National, but she says
about th Mt Roskill result:
"The Mt Roskill byelection victory is Andrew Little's victory.
The Labour leader has described the win as "a bloody nose for
National".
It is more like a bloody nose, a black eye and broken jaw.
National was comprehensively thrashed in a fight that had the
potential to run closer, given that National polled 2189 votes higher
than Labour in the party vote two years ago.
John Key campaigned just as hard, if not harder in the electorate,
because an upset result would have destabilised Little's leadership at
a critical time in the election cycle.
Key campaigned for seven days in the electorate, between earthquake management and international sumiteering in Peru.
Andrew Little was there for six days.
Little had a rough week with the defection of Nick Leggett to National
and some dubious polling results.
Credible polling still puts Labour in with a chance in a centre-left
bloc to lead the next Government but there has been nothing in Little repertoire until now that says "winner"."
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11759981
I had not realised that Key spent more time in the electorate than
Andrew Little. They have had a series of weak candidates; I suspect
National are finding it harder to attract quality candidates as it
becomes clearer that they are more likely to be in opposition fairly
soon.
Having talked up the possibility of NAtional taking the seat early in
teh campaign, and the on-again off again personal support by the prime >minister, this will come as an unwelcome indication that Labour is
getting its message through: >http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11759969
On Sat, 03 Dec 2016 23:35:11 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Having talked up the possibility of NAtional taking the seat early in
teh campaign, and the on-again off again personal support by the prime
minister, this will come as an unwelcome indication that Labour is
getting its message through:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11759969
Except that 61% of voters did not vote. Of those that did vote 66%
voted for Wood. Tell me how this is an indication that Labour is
getting the message through? It is more like Labour succeeded in
getting more of their supporters to the polling booths - a very
laudable achievement - but not a credible indication on any shift in
the political landscape in favour of Labour.
On 12/5/2016 8:57 PM, Crash wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2016 23:35:11 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>Liebor won a seat they've held for years.
wrote:
Having talked up the possibility of NAtional taking the seat early in
teh campaign, and the on-again off again personal support by the prime
minister, this will come as an unwelcome indication that Labour is
getting its message through:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11759969
Except that 61% of voters did not vote. Of those that did vote 66%
voted for Wood. Tell me how this is an indication that Labour is
getting the message through? It is more like Labour succeeded in
getting more of their supporters to the polling booths - a very
laudable achievement - but not a credible indication on any shift in
the political landscape in favour of Labour.
No doubt thats success when they're on 20% +
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