On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:51:03 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/86951169/christchurch-judge- >accuses-government-of-breaching-childs-rights
Yes National shows its contempt for anyone not wealthy enough to give
their party a donation, but that is bnecoming well known. I was
interested in a wrinkle at the end:
"In the year to June 30, 2015, CYF recorded 51 young people as having
spent more than 24 hours in police custody. The year before, it was 62.
"
Unremarkable, you may think - an improvement; whats the problem?
June 2015? Is that just convenient? Why is the number for the year to
June 2016 not available?
Now the article does not say who gave the statistic, but coming just
after a sentence where CYF declined to answer some important questions
(undoubtedly in relation to minimising any legal liability), the
statistics do not seem to be particularly sensitive - either CYF gave
the old comparison differently, orthe reporter found them somewhere
else. It wil be interesting to see if this gets follow-up, as National
has form for insisting that anything sensitive gets cleared by a
Minister before being disclosed, and of stopping collection of
embarrassing statistics (like levels of poverty).
we used to have a public service providing services for all New
Zealanders - under National we have a pub,ic sector serving the polical
necessities of a National-led government . . .
In your obsession to malign the Key government you might think this kind
of comment lands a blow upon it. But, in implying dark collusion between >government and public service you kid yourself. Instead, you malign the
body of our public service, which remains apolitical under governments of
any colour, and which is composed of many dedicated people whose
intellect, capabilities and integrity eclipse your own by a very large >margin.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/86951169/christchurch-judge-accuses-government-of-breaching-childs-rights
Yes National shows its contempt for anyone not wealthy enough to give
their party a donation, but that is bnecoming well known. I was
interested in a wrinkle at the end:
"In the year to June 30, 2015, CYF recorded 51 young people as having
spent more than 24 hours in police custody. The year before, it was 62.
"
Unremarkable, you may think - an improvement; whats the problem?
June 2015? Is that just convenient? Why is the number for the year to
June 2016 not available?
Now the article does not say who gave the statistic, but coming just
after a sentence where CYF declined to answer some important questions (undoubtedly in relation to minimising any legal liability), the
statistics do not seem to be particularly sensitive - either CYF gave
the old comparison differently, orthe reporter found them somewhere
else. It wil be interesting to see if this gets follow-up, as National
has form for insisting that anything sensitive gets cleared by a
Minister before being disclosed, and of stopping collection of
embarrassing statistics (like levels of poverty).
we used to have a public service providing services for all New
Zealanders - under National we have a pub,ic sector serving the polical necessities of a National-led government . . .
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:51:03 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/86951169/christchurch-judge-accuses-government-of-breaching-childs-rights
Yes National shows its contempt for anyone not wealthy enough to give
their party a donation, but that is bnecoming well known. I was
interested in a wrinkle at the end:
"In the year to June 30, 2015, CYF recorded 51 young people as having
spent more than 24 hours in police custody. The year before, it was 62.
"
Unremarkable, you may think - an improvement; whats the problem?
June 2015? Is that just convenient? Why is the number for the year to
June 2016 not available?
Now the article does not say who gave the statistic, but coming just
after a sentence where CYF declined to answer some important questions (undoubtedly in relation to minimising any legal liability), the
statistics do not seem to be particularly sensitive - either CYF gave
the old comparison differently, orthe reporter found them somewhere
else. It wil be interesting to see if this gets follow-up, as National
has form for insisting that anything sensitive gets cleared by a
Minister before being disclosed, and of stopping collection of
embarrassing statistics (like levels of poverty).
we used to have a public service providing services for all New
Zealanders - under National we have a pub,ic sector serving the polical necessities of a National-led government . . .
In your obsession to malign the Key government you might think this kind
of comment lands a blow upon it. But, in implying dark collusion between government and public service you kid yourself. Instead, you malign the
body of our public service, which remains apolitical under governments of
any colour, and which is composed of many dedicated people whose
intellect, capabilities and integrity eclipse your own by a very large margin.
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:24:46 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKeyOnce again you do not care how many innocent people you try to bring in to disrepute. You are without doubt a serial hater of ordinary New Zealanders! Tony
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:51:03 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/86951169/christchurch-judge- >>accuses-government-of-breaching-childs-rights
Yes National shows its contempt for anyone not wealthy enough to give
their party a donation, but that is bnecoming well known. I was
interested in a wrinkle at the end:
"In the year to June 30, 2015, CYF recorded 51 young people as having
spent more than 24 hours in police custody. The year before, it was 62.
"
Unremarkable, you may think - an improvement; whats the problem?
June 2015? Is that just convenient? Why is the number for the year to
June 2016 not available?
Now the article does not say who gave the statistic, but coming just
after a sentence where CYF declined to answer some important questions
(undoubtedly in relation to minimising any legal liability), the
statistics do not seem to be particularly sensitive - either CYF gave
the old comparison differently, orthe reporter found them somewhere
else. It wil be interesting to see if this gets follow-up, as National
has form for insisting that anything sensitive gets cleared by a
Minister before being disclosed, and of stopping collection of
embarrassing statistics (like levels of poverty).
we used to have a public service providing services for all New
Zealanders - under National we have a pub,ic sector serving the polical
necessities of a National-led government . . .
In your obsession to malign the Key government you might think this kind
of comment lands a blow upon it. But, in implying dark collusion between >>government and public service you kid yourself. Instead, you malign the >>body of our public service, which remains apolitical under governments of >>any colour, and which is composed of many dedicated people whose
intellect, capabilities and integrity eclipse your own by a very large >>margin.
The majority of the public service remains apolitical, but they also
know that they must comply with legal requirements from Ministers. One
of those htat has been cruelly abused is the "no surprises"rule that
National Ministers now require - anything remotely controversial must
be cleared with the Minister first - the ability for the head of a
department to speak openly to a reporter has sharply diminished, and
nothing must be said ever which may reflect badly onthe department or
by extension the government. It comes though in small things, such as
the lack of statistics that may or may not indicate progress - we just
dont know and are not allowed to know as much as under previous
governments. It also comes through in large things, such as the
blatant disregard for human rights in many instances. Departmental
briefings are subject to "discovery"in the Freedom of Information
process which is increasingly quasi-legal in the hops that need tobe >followed, so more briefings are only verbal, with reports to the
Minister often edited by the Minister to be acceptable for the
Minister. The lack of integrity is with those hiding the information,
not the public sector employees or the journalists and public kept in
the dark
On Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:24:46 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:51:03 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/86951169/christchurch-judge- >>accuses-government-of-breaching-childs-rights
Yes National shows its contempt for anyone not wealthy enough to give
their party a donation, but that is bnecoming well known. I was
interested in a wrinkle at the end:
"In the year to June 30, 2015, CYF recorded 51 young people as having
spent more than 24 hours in police custody. The year before, it was
62.
"
Unremarkable, you may think - an improvement; whats the problem?
June 2015? Is that just convenient? Why is the number for the year to
June 2016 not available?
Now the article does not say who gave the statistic, but coming just
after a sentence where CYF declined to answer some important questions
(undoubtedly in relation to minimising any legal liability), the
statistics do not seem to be particularly sensitive - either CYF gave
the old comparison differently, orthe reporter found them somewhere
else. It wil be interesting to see if this gets follow-up, as
National has form for insisting that anything sensitive gets cleared
by a Minister before being disclosed, and of stopping collection of
embarrassing statistics (like levels of poverty).
we used to have a public service providing services for all New
Zealanders - under National we have a pub,ic sector serving the
polical necessities of a National-led government . . .
In your obsession to malign the Key government you might think this kind
of comment lands a blow upon it. But, in implying dark collusion
between government and public service you kid yourself. Instead, you >>malign the body of our public service, which remains apolitical under >>governments of any colour, and which is composed of many dedicated
people whose intellect, capabilities and integrity eclipse your own by a >>very large margin.
The majority of the public service remains apolitical, but they also
know that they must comply with legal requirements from Ministers. One
of those htat has been cruelly abused is the "no surprises"rule that
National Ministers now require - anything remotely controversial must be cleared with the Minister first - the ability for the head of a
department to speak openly to a reporter has sharply diminished, and
nothing must be said ever which may reflect badly onthe department or by extension the government. It comes though in small things, such as the
lack of statistics that may or may not indicate progress - we just dont
know and are not allowed to know as much as under previous governments.
It also comes through in large things, such as the blatant disregard for human rights in many instances. Departmental briefings are subject to "discovery"in the Freedom of Information process which is increasingly quasi-legal in the hops that need tobe followed, so more briefings are
only verbal, with reports to the Minister often edited by the Minister
to be acceptable for the Minister. The lack of integrity is with those
hiding the information, not the public sector employees or the
journalists and public kept in the dark
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/86951169/christchurch-judge-accuses-government-of-breaching-childs-rights
Yes National shows its contempt for anyone not wealthy enough to give
their party a donation, but that is bnecoming well known. I was
interested in a wrinkle at the end:
"In the year to June 30, 2015, CYF recorded 51 young people as having
spent more than 24 hours in police custody. The year before, it was
62. "
Unremarkable, you may think - an improvement; whats the problem?
June 2015? Is that just convenient? Why is the number for the year to
June 2016 not available?
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