One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes" legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read: http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left.
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out
On 11/25/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left.
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out
Of course rich is well known to take these recidivists into his house
and helping them to rehabilitate /cynical mode off...
On Friday, 25 November 2016 08:49:08 UTC+13, george wrote:Rich must be desperate. This is a losers argument.
On 11/25/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:Of course rich is well known to take these recidivists into his house
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left. >> >
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out >> >and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
and helping them to rehabilitate /cynical mode off...
Dickbot titled his post "appealing to base prejudices".
I am happy to acknowledge that I am prejudiced against recidivist violent >offenders. I endorse any party that will remove such people from my family's >presence and reject any party that endorses including them in my family's >presence.
There are reasons Labour's polling is stuck in the 20's. This sort of shit is >but one example.
On Friday, 25 November 2016 08:49:08 UTC+13, george wrote:and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
On 11/25/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left. >> >
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out
Of course rich is well known to take these recidivists into his house
and helping them to rehabilitate /cynical mode off...
Dickbot titled his post "appealing to base prejudices".
I am happy to acknowledge that I am prejudiced against recidivist violent offenders. I endorse any party that will remove such people from my family's presence and reject any party that endorses including them in my family's presence.
There are reasons Labour's polling is stuck in the 20's. This sort of shit is but one example.
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:23:41 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>And the value of a life is???? No reply I suspect but significantly more than $700k!
wrote:
On Friday, 25 November 2016 08:49:08 UTC+13, george wrote:
On 11/25/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:Of course rich is well known to take these recidivists into his house
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went >>> >> down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left. >>> >
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out >>> > and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017. >>> >
and helping them to rehabilitate /cynical mode off...
Dickbot titled his post "appealing to base prejudices".
I am happy to acknowledge that I am prejudiced against recidivist violent >>offenders. I endorse any party that will remove such people from my family's >>presence and reject any party that endorses including them in my family's >>presence.
There are reasons Labour's polling is stuck in the 20's. This sort of shit is >>but one example.
Predictable unthinking responses that demonstrate the appeal to blind >prejudice works often enough that it beats actually doing the hard
work of competent government.
Sadly we do not know what the sentence would have been without the 3
strikes legislation - but it is clear it would have been shorter.
It costs taxpayers about $100,000 per year to keep him in prison, so
that's up to $700,000 that can't be spent on something else.
Herceptin: $20,000 per treatment cycle
Hip replacement $20,000
Teacher say $45,000 starting salary
And meanwhile the prisoners tutor each other how to not get caughtMeaningless hyperbole
next time . . .
In terms of priority, sentences such as this (together with a fewOh dear, poor old Labour, always the target of criticism - I wonder why?
million to build a new prison) all mitigate against that other
distraction - tax cuts. Still, they knew those couldn't be afforded
anyway - but the Nats will blame Labour anyway . . .
On Friday, 25 November 2016 12:11:07 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:23:41 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, 25 November 2016 08:49:08 UTC+13, george wrote:
On 11/25/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:Of course rich is well known to take these recidivists into his house
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went >> >> >> down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their >> >> >> silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left.
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims >> >> >out and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
and helping them to rehabilitate /cynical mode off...
Dickbot titled his post "appealing to base prejudices".
I am happy to acknowledge that I am prejudiced against recidivist violent >> >offenders. I endorse any party that will remove such people from my family's
presence and reject any party that endorses including them in my family's >> >presence.
There are reasons Labour's polling is stuck in the 20's. This sort of shit >> >is but one example.
Predictable unthinking responses that demonstrate the appeal to blind
prejudice works often enough that it beats actually doing the hard
work of competent government.
Sadly we do not know what the sentence would have been without the 3
strikes legislation - but it is clear it would have been shorter.
Actually we do. Go and look it up and stop parading your ignorance.
It costs taxpayers about $100,000 per year to keep him in prison, so
that's up to $700,000 that can't be spent on something else.
How much does it cost to have this toerag out and assaulting people? How much >does one trial cost when he commits his next offence?
They certainly are - the vast majority of offenders (better than 98%) effectively catch themselves, the remaining 2% are the minority of smart ones. Percentages courtesy of the police. The problem is not finding most of the offenders but preparing a case that will hold together under cross examination, one of the costs of democracy!Herceptin: $20,000 per treatment cycle
Did you see the MOH has just extended the Herceptin coverage?
Hip replacement $20,000
Teacher say $45,000 starting salary
And meanwhile the prisoners tutor each other how to not get caught
next time . . .
They are doing a shit job of it then.
In terms of priority, sentences such as this (together with a few
million to build a new prison) all mitigate against that other
distraction - tax cuts. Still, they knew those couldn't be afforded
anyway - but the Nats will blame Labour anyway . . .
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:23:41 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>out and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
wrote:
On Friday, 25 November 2016 08:49:08 UTC+13, george wrote:
On 11/25/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went >> >> down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left. >> >
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims
offenders. I endorse any party that will remove such people from my family's presence and reject any party that endorses including them in my family's presence.Of course rich is well known to take these recidivists into his house
and helping them to rehabilitate /cynical mode off...
Dickbot titled his post "appealing to base prejudices".
I am happy to acknowledge that I am prejudiced against recidivist violent
is but one example.There are reasons Labour's polling is stuck in the 20's. This sort of shit
Predictable unthinking responses that demonstrate the appeal to blind prejudice works often enough that it beats actually doing the hard
work of competent government.
Sadly we do not know what the sentence would have been without the 3
strikes legislation - but it is clear it would have been shorter.
It costs taxpayers about $100,000 per year to keep him in prison, so
that's up to $700,000 that can't be spent on something else.
Herceptin: $20,000 per treatment cycle
Hip replacement $20,000
Teacher say $45,000 starting salary
And meanwhile the prisoners tutor each other how to not get caught
next time . . .
In terms of priority, sentences such as this (together with a few
million to build a new prison) all mitigate against that other
distraction - tax cuts. Still, they knew those couldn't be afforded
anyway - but the Nats will blame Labour anyway . . .
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes" legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read: http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left.and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out
Predictable unthinking responses that demonstrate the appeal to blind prejudice works often enough that it beats actually doing the hard
work of competent government.
Sadly we do not know what the sentence would have been without the 3
strikes legislation - but it is clear it would have been shorter.
It costs taxpayers about $100,000 per year to keep him in prison, so
that's up to $700,000 that can't be spent on something else.
Herceptin: $20,000 per treatment cycle
Hip replacement $20,000
Teacher say $45,000 starting salary
Oh dear, poor old Labour, always the target of criticism - I wonder why?
On 2016-11-24, JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left.
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
Violent crims? More PC dumbing down or what?
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:23:41 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
wrote:
On Friday, 25 November 2016 08:49:08 UTC+13, george wrote:
On 11/25/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went >>>>> down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their >>>>> silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left. >>>>
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out
Of course rich is well known to take these recidivists into his house
and helping them to rehabilitate /cynical mode off...
Dickbot titled his post "appealing to base prejudices".
I am happy to acknowledge that I am prejudiced against recidivist violent offenders. I endorse any party that will remove such people from my family's presence and reject any party that endorses including them in my family's presence.
There are reasons Labour's polling is stuck in the 20's. This sort of shit is but one example.
Predictable unthinking responses that demonstrate the appeal to blind prejudice works often enough that it beats actually doing the hard
work of competent government.
Sadly we do not know what the sentence would have been without the 3
strikes legislation - but it is clear it would have been shorter.
It costs taxpayers about $100,000 per year to keep him in prison, so
that's up to $700,000 that can't be spent on something else.
Herceptin: $20,000 per treatment cycle
Hip replacement $20,000
Teacher say $45,000 starting salary
And meanwhile the prisoners tutor each other how to not get caught
next time . . .
In terms of priority, sentences such as this (together with a few
million to build a new prison) all mitigate against that other
distraction - tax cuts. Still, they knew those couldn't be afforded
anyway - but the Nats will blame Labour anyway . . .
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left.
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out
On 2016-11-24, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:I wish you were right, but I am afraid that you are mistaken!
Oh dear, poor old Labour, always the target of criticism - I wonder why?Because they are a threat.
Sorry to say, I can not say they are an effective opposition. A good >Government needs one.
On Friday, 25 November 2016 12:11:07 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:23:41 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, 25 November 2016 08:49:08 UTC+13, george wrote:
On 11/25/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:Of course rich is well known to take these recidivists into his house
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went >> >> >> down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their >> >> >> silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left.
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017. >> >> >
and helping them to rehabilitate /cynical mode off...
Dickbot titled his post "appealing to base prejudices".
I am happy to acknowledge that I am prejudiced against recidivist violent offenders. I endorse any party that will remove such people from my family's presence and reject any party that endorses including them in my family's presence.
There are reasons Labour's polling is stuck in the 20's. This sort of shit is but one example.
Predictable unthinking responses that demonstrate the appeal to blind
prejudice works often enough that it beats actually doing the hard
work of competent government.
Sadly we do not know what the sentence would have been without the 3
strikes legislation - but it is clear it would have been shorter.
Actually we do. Go and look it up and stop parading your ignorance.
Are you advocating keeping people in prison because of what they may
It costs taxpayers about $100,000 per year to keep him in prison, so
that's up to $700,000 that can't be spent on something else.
How much does it cost to have this toerag out and assaulting people? How much does one trial cost when he commits his next offence?
So? Based on the figures above, treatment for say 7 people could haveHerceptin: $20,000 per treatment cycle
Did you see the MOH has just extended the Herceptin coverage?
Hip replacement $20,000
Teacher say $45,000 starting salary
And meanwhile the prisoners tutor each other how to not get caught
next time . . .
They are doing a shit job of it then.
In terms of priority, sentences such as this (together with a few
million to build a new prison) all mitigate against that other
distraction - tax cuts. Still, they knew those couldn't be afforded
anyway - but the Nats will blame Labour anyway . . .
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left.
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out
On 25/11/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:I don't need to. My vote will be used in the most effective way to stop >Labour/Greens getting near the cheque book.
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left.
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 09:09:22 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:And Labour failed to do that.
On 25/11/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:I don't need to. My vote will be used in the most effective way to stop >>Labour/Greens getting near the cheque book.
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left. >>>
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out >>>and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
Labour/Green won't need to spend as much as National for new prisons - >justice includes getting people back into lives that don't lead to
crime; National don;t understand that.
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 16:53:10 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>2017.
wrote:
On Friday, 25 November 2016 12:11:07 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:23:41 -0800 (PST), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, 25 November 2016 08:49:08 UTC+13, george wrote:
On 11/25/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame - >>> >> >> about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is >>> >> >> one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes" >>> >> >> legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went >>> >> >> down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will >>> >> >> need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their >>> >> >> silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the
left.
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims >>> >> >out and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in
Of course rich is well known to take these recidivists into his house >>> >> and helping them to rehabilitate /cynical mode off...
Dickbot titled his post "appealing to base prejudices".
I am happy to acknowledge that I am prejudiced against recidivist violent >>> >offenders. I endorse any party that will remove such people from my family's
presence and reject any party that endorses including them in my family's >>> >presence.
There are reasons Labour's polling is stuck in the 20's. This sort of shit >>> >is but one example.
Predictable unthinking responses that demonstrate the appeal to blind
prejudice works often enough that it beats actually doing the hard
work of competent government.
Sadly we do not know what the sentence would have been without the 3
strikes legislation - but it is clear it would have been shorter.
Actually we do. Go and look it up and stop parading your ignorance.
I'm not sure if I saw the same report as you, but yes it appears that
if parole is granted (andthe judge was at least able to grant the
possibility of parole) he may be out in two years, compared to about 6
months with parole had it not been for the 3 strikes legislation. So
the additional cost is "only" about $150,000.
It is not longer than usual, merely longer than it used to be. The "usual" has changed!Are you advocating keeping people in prison because of what they may
It costs taxpayers about $100,000 per year to keep him in prison, so
that's up to $700,000 that can't be spent on something else.
How much does it cost to have this toerag out and assaulting people? How much >>does one trial cost when he commits his next offence?
do once their sentence is completed? Really?
So? Based on the figures above, treatment for say 7 people could haveHerceptin: $20,000 per treatment cycle
Did you see the MOH has just extended the Herceptin coverage?
been covered by the money now being spent keeping this person in
prison longer than usual for the same offence.
Hip replacement $20,000
Teacher say $45,000 starting salary
And meanwhile the prisoners tutor each other how to not get caught
next time . . .
They are doing a shit job of it then.
In terms of priority, sentences such as this (together with a few
million to build a new prison) all mitigate against that other
distraction - tax cuts. Still, they knew those couldn't be afforded
anyway - but the Nats will blame Labour anyway . . .
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 09:09:22 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:
On 25/11/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:I don't need to. My vote will be used in the most effective way to stop
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left. >>>
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
Labour/Greens getting near the cheque book.
Labour/Green won't need to spend as much as National for new prisons - justice includes getting people back into lives that don't lead to
crime; National don;t understand that.
On Sat, 26 Nov 2016 09:09:22 +1300, Fred <dryrot@hotmail.com> wrote:and among you and your family. Think about that before you vote in 2017.
On 25/11/2016 8:14 AM, JohnO wrote:
On Thursday, 24 November 2016 22:56:15 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
One of National's common distractions is to find someone to blame -
about anything - and preferably offer a "solution"- Laura Norder is
one of their favourite fronts for such activity. A while ago they
through a bone ot the unthinking bigots and passed the "3 Strikes"
legislation. A simple concept for simple minds, and I am sure it went
down well with some Nat-supporters.
As a result, instead of reducing prison populations as some other
countries are doing, we face needing to pay for a new prison -
NAtional will doubtless just borrow the estimated cost, but it will
need to be paid for sometime, and contributing to that cost is their
silly autocratic bone to the scared and simple.
For a demonstration that matters are not so simple, read:
http://pundit.co.nz/content/three-strikes-and-you-still-get-out
Fantastic to see Dickbot hugging recidivist crims on behalf of the left. >>
Voters take note: The left would like to see violent recidivist crims out
I don't need to. My vote will be used in the most effective way to stop >Labour/Greens getting near the cheque book.
Labour/Green won't need to spend as much as National for new prisons - justice includes getting people back into lives that don't lead to
crime; National don;t understand that.
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