I hear Tamaki whatsit has declared Christchurch and Banks Penninsular to
be his god getting snaky.
If he hadn't copied verbatim and word for word from an Itie godbotherer
who burbled after their earthquakes ...
Time for his followers to wake up and stop funding the nutter

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On 17/11/2016 8:23 a.m., george152 wrote:

I hear Tamaki whatsit has declared Christchurch and Banks Penninsular to
be his god getting snaky.
If he hadn't copied verbatim and word for word from an Itie godbotherer
who burbled after their earthquakes ...
Time for his followers to wake up and stop funding the nutter

There's a petition calling for Tamaki's 'church' losing it's tax free
state. I signed it not that it'll do any good. But about the only church
I'd consider a 'charity' is the Sally Army.

Pooh

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In article <YPednVRFvs6sL7HFnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@giganews.com>,
gblack@hnpl.net, george152 says...

I hear Tamaki whatsit has declared Christchurch and Banks Penninsular to
be his god getting snaky.
If he hadn't copied verbatim and word for word from an Itie godbotherer
who burbled after their earthquakes ...
Time for his followers to wake up and stop funding the nutter

Unfortunately they are deluded nutters too. Consequently, they praise
him. And that Jesus fellow that we still can't even prove the existence
of.

--
Duncan.

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On 17/11/2016 2:15 PM, Dave Doe wrote:

In article <YPednVRFvs6sL7HFnZ2dnUU7-d3NnZ2d@giganews.com>,
gblack@hnpl.net, george152 says...

I hear Tamaki whatsit has declared Christchurch and Banks Penninsular to
be his god getting snaky.
If he hadn't copied verbatim and word for word from an Itie godbotherer
who burbled after their earthquakes ...
Time for his followers to wake up and stop funding the nutter

Unfortunately they are deluded nutters too. Consequently, they praise
him. And that Jesus fellow that we still can't even prove the existence
of.

I don't think there's any doubt he existed. It's the rest of the story
that is bullshit. The magic powers stuff. Let's face it - not even
Dynamo could rise from the dead.

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Pooh wrote:

On 17/11/2016 8:23 a.m., george152 wrote:

I hear Tamaki whatsit has declared Christchurch and Banks Penninsular to
be his god getting snaky.
If he hadn't copied verbatim and word for word from an Itie godbotherer
who burbled after their earthquakes ...
Time for his followers to wake up and stop funding the nutter

There's a petition calling for Tamaki's 'church' losing it's tax free
state. I signed it not that it'll do any good. But about the only church
I'd consider a 'charity' is the Sally Army.

Religion should not be a reason to be tax exempt. It should be for charities only. Spreading dishonesty and immorality is not charitable.
--
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

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On 11/18/2016 8:09 PM, Allistar wrote:

Pooh wrote:

On 17/11/2016 8:23 a.m., george152 wrote:

I hear Tamaki whatsit has declared Christchurch and Banks Penninsular to >>> be his god getting snaky.
If he hadn't copied verbatim and word for word from an Itie godbotherer
who burbled after their earthquakes ...
Time for his followers to wake up and stop funding the nutter

There's a petition calling for Tamaki's 'church' losing it's tax free
state. I signed it not that it'll do any good. But about the only church
I'd consider a 'charity' is the Sally Army.

Religion should not be a reason to be tax exempt. It should be for charities only. Spreading dishonesty and immorality is not charitable.

Very true.

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On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 08:50:08 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

On 11/18/2016 8:09 PM, Allistar wrote:

Pooh wrote:

On 17/11/2016 8:23 a.m., george152 wrote:

I hear Tamaki whatsit has declared Christchurch and Banks Penninsular to >>>> be his god getting snaky.
If he hadn't copied verbatim and word for word from an Itie godbotherer >>>> who burbled after their earthquakes ...
Time for his followers to wake up and stop funding the nutter

There's a petition calling for Tamaki's 'church' losing it's tax free
state. I signed it not that it'll do any good. But about the only church >>> I'd consider a 'charity' is the Sally Army.

Religion should not be a reason to be tax exempt. It should be for charities >> only. Spreading dishonesty and immorality is not charitable.

Very true.

The history of tax-exemption for religious organisations probably
stems back to the days when churches were the pillars of the society
they served and secular leaders were always seen at church on Sunday.

Those days are long gone. Religious organisations should subject to
the same tax obligations as similar secular not-for-profit
organisations.


--
Crash McBash

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"george152" wrote in message news:4KedndVgAqPzxrLFnZ2dnUU7-b-dnZ2d@giganews.com...

On 11/18/2016 8:09 PM, Allistar wrote:

Pooh wrote:

On 17/11/2016 8:23 a.m., george152 wrote:

I hear Tamaki whatsit has declared Christchurch and Banks Penninsular to >>> be his god getting snaky.
If he hadn't copied verbatim and word for word from an Itie godbotherer
who burbled after their earthquakes ...
Time for his followers to wake up and stop funding the nutter

There's a petition calling for Tamaki's 'church' losing it's tax free
state. I signed it not that it'll do any good. But about the only church
I'd consider a 'charity' is the Sally Army.

Religion should not be a reason to be tax exempt. It should be for
charities
only. Spreading dishonesty and immorality is not charitable.

Very true
..............

" Help us to save free conscience from the paw
Of hireling wolves, whose Gospel is their maw."

(Milton, in his poem to Cromwell)

Sadly there will probably always be hireling wolves around.

But on the other hand we might be mistaken about Tamaki.

Acts 5:38-39 (KJV)

"38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for
if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:

39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even
to fight against God."

I sit on the sideline awaiting developments.

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geopelia wrote:

"george152" wrote in message news:4KedndVgAqPzxrLFnZ2dnUU7-b-dnZ2d@giganews.com...

On 11/18/2016 8:09 PM, Allistar wrote:

Pooh wrote:

On 17/11/2016 8:23 a.m., george152 wrote:

I hear Tamaki whatsit has declared Christchurch and Banks Penninsular
to be his god getting snaky.
If he hadn't copied verbatim and word for word from an Itie godbotherer >>>> who burbled after their earthquakes ...
Time for his followers to wake up and stop funding the nutter

There's a petition calling for Tamaki's 'church' losing it's tax free
state. I signed it not that it'll do any good. But about the only church >>> I'd consider a 'charity' is the Sally Army.

Religion should not be a reason to be tax exempt. It should be for
charities
only. Spreading dishonesty and immorality is not charitable.

Very true
..............

" Help us to save free conscience from the paw
Of hireling wolves, whose Gospel is their maw."

(Milton, in his poem to Cromwell)

Sadly there will probably always be hireling wolves around.

But on the other hand we might be mistaken about Tamaki.

Acts 5:38-39 (KJV)

"38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone:
for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:

39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found
even to fight against God."

The Bible is a disgusting book and should be taken as seriously as the
Hobbit (less seriously than hat even given how keen Tolkien fans can get).

I sit on the sideline awaiting developments.

I await the day when no church is given a tax exempt status and there's an
R18 sign on the doors. These ridiculous, dangerous and patently false superstitions need to stop spreading.
--
"From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
creates the incentive to minimize your abilities and maximize your needs.

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"Allistar" wrote in message news:npudndCRbKW8k6vFnZ2dnUU7-Xdh4p2d@giganews.com...

geopelia wrote:

"george152" wrote in message news:4KedndVgAqPzxrLFnZ2dnUU7-b-dnZ2d@giganews.com...

On 11/18/2016 8:09 PM, Allistar wrote:

Pooh wrote:

On 17/11/2016 8:23 a.m., george152 wrote:

I hear Tamaki whatsit has declared Christchurch and Banks Penninsular
to be his god getting snaky.
If he hadn't copied verbatim and word for word from an Itie godbotherer >>>> who burbled after their earthquakes ...
Time for his followers to wake up and stop funding the nutter

There's a petition calling for Tamaki's 'church' losing it's tax free
state. I signed it not that it'll do any good. But about the only church >>> I'd consider a 'charity' is the Sally Army.

Religion should not be a reason to be tax exempt. It should be for
charities
only. Spreading dishonesty and immorality is not charitable.

Very true
..............

" Help us to save free conscience from the paw
Of hireling wolves, whose Gospel is their maw."

(Milton, in his poem to Cromwell)

Sadly there will probably always be hireling wolves around.

But on the other hand we might be mistaken about Tamaki.

Acts 5:38-39 (KJV)

"38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone:
for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought:

39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found
even to fight against God."

The Bible is a disgusting book and should be taken as seriously as the
Hobbit (less seriously than hat even given how keen Tolkien fans can get).

I sit on the sideline awaiting developments.

I await the day when no church is given a tax exempt status and there's an
R18 sign on the doors. These ridiculous, dangerous and patently false superstitions need to stop spreading.
............

Yes. some of the Bible may seem "disgusting" to modern readers, ( e.g.
animal sacrifice),
and especially parts of the early books of "divers laws and ordinances"
from the time of Moses.
The Exodus is thought to be from around 1440 BC.
In three and a half millennia the world has moved on.

But the New Testament comes from the days of the later Roman Empire.
Try comparing it with other literature from around that time.
("The Golden Ass", enjoyed sometimes as porn today, is actually a very moral story by a devout worshipper of the Goddess Isis).

In those days the world ran on slave power.
The Epistle to Philemon discusses an actual slave, and the whole subject.
How should masters and slaves behave to each other?
But slavery itself is not condemned. It was just the way things were, then.

St Paul's Epistles to various Christian groups in Rome and Roman colonies
are worth pondering, even if you are not Christian, as an insight into the thinking and morals of that time.
We probably read the Gospels, Acts and Revelation. Try the Epistles too,
advice to the early Christians around the Roman world.

And there is a little story in Proverbs One, said to be Solomon's wise
advice, which every young lad should read!

Geopelia

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