New Zealand sure is a great place to start up a business. If you pick
it right, the government will give you taxpayer funding, help you to
bring customers in from overseas, you don't have to provide a real
service, and when it goes wrong you just walk away with the profits!
Its not quite as good as Charter Schools (where if you do it right you
get to keep the property - what a way to buy a farm!), but this one
looks like just what your friendly National MP thinks is the bees
knees :
http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/mass-nzqa-investigations-into-international-schools-2016110218
A Newshub investigation has revealed 81 international schools have
been under investigation by NZQA, and more than half have been found
to have broken the law or other NZQA rules.
Worse, 45 of those private training schools have been found to have
"serious issues" which breach the Education Act or other NZQA rules.
Things like students paying fees to get false attendance records,
schools advertising courses they don't even provide, cheating on
English language testing, and even giving qualifications to students
who haven't completed the requirements.
And the list goes on. On top of that, many of the schools who were
caught out simply shut their doors, leaving students in the lurch.
"This is an utter shambles. The system is in meltdown," says Labour's Associate Tertiary Education spokesperson David Cunliffe.
Here are a few examples:
Te Kaupapa Training in Lower Hutt - deregistered after refusing to
hand over financial records to NZQA.
Health Ed Trust in Christchurch shut up shop after being caught subcontracting out work without approval.
And a provider operating out of one building in Auckland was "found to
have engaged in dishonest behaviour".
"I think the industry has for a long time had a reputation as
something to get into as a way to get rich quick," says immigration
lawyer Alistair McClymont.
"Start a school, get NZQA approval, you make your money and get out
before the compliance issues catch up with you."
Documents show more than a dozen providers just sold up or cancelled
their registration when NZQA started investigating.
One industry representative says some owners of schools never have any intention of providing quality education - it's all about cashing in.
"The owners and directors - they've set up the business to basically
gouge it," says Auckland International Education Group's Paul
Chambers.
In the case of IANZ - an Auckland provider - the directors sold their business after getting busted for alleged fraudulent activity. They're
now trying to leave the country.
"The Government is wilfully blind, incompetent or lacking in systems,"
says Mr Cunliffe.
However, the Government disagrees.
"We actually have a far more robust system under this Government,"
says Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce. "We've tightened up requirements on both private and public providers."
But Mr Chalmers says audits have only tightened up after Newshub's investigation.
"I think the role of the media in this has been crucial. We have a
free media that's been able to go after these people and put pressure
on Government agencies," he says.
The 45 schools with serious issues are around 10 percent of all
training providers in the country.
To make matters worse - some of those providers even got taxpayer
funding from the Tertiary Education Commission.
"The system is broken - I think it's time for a full independent
inquiry," Mr Cunliffe says.
But the Government says that's not necessary - and insists it is
taking action against the problematic providers.
"Most Tertiary Education Organisations (TEOs), both publicly and privately-owned, are high performing and have robust internal systems
in place to ensure they are continually improving," says NZQA's deputy
chief executive of quality assurance, Dr Grant Klinkum.
"A very small number of TEOs are not meeting NZQA's high expectations.
Poor performance by providers damages student learning and the
reputation of New Zealand's education system and will not be tolerated
by NZQA. NZQA proactively reviews the quality of providers and also investigates complaints about providers."
On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:01:12 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>schools, yet you attempt to conflate them.
wrote:
On Thursday, 3 November 2016 13:39:35 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
New Zealand sure is a great place to start up a business. If you pick
it right, the government will give you taxpayer funding, help you to
bring customers in from overseas, you don't have to provide a real
service, and when it goes wrong you just walk away with the profits!
Its not quite as good as Charter Schools (where if you do it right you
get to keep the property - what a way to buy a farm!), but this one
looks like just what your friendly National MP thinks is the bees
knees :
http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/mass-nzqa-investigations-into-international-schools-2016110218
A Newshub investigation has revealed 81 international schools have
been under investigation by NZQA, and more than half have been found
to have broken the law or other NZQA rules.
Worse, 45 of those private training schools have been found to have
"serious issues" which breach the Education Act or other NZQA rules.
Things like students paying fees to get false attendance records,
schools advertising courses they don't even provide, cheating on
English language testing, and even giving qualifications to students
who haven't completed the requirements.
And the list goes on. On top of that, many of the schools who were
caught out simply shut their doors, leaving students in the lurch.
"This is an utter shambles. The system is in meltdown," says Labour's
Associate Tertiary Education spokesperson David Cunliffe.
Here are a few examples:
Te Kaupapa Training in Lower Hutt - deregistered after refusing to
hand over financial records to NZQA.
Health Ed Trust in Christchurch shut up shop after being caught
subcontracting out work without approval.
And a provider operating out of one building in Auckland was "found to
have engaged in dishonest behaviour".
"I think the industry has for a long time had a reputation as
something to get into as a way to get rich quick," says immigration
lawyer Alistair McClymont.
"Start a school, get NZQA approval, you make your money and get out
before the compliance issues catch up with you."
Documents show more than a dozen providers just sold up or cancelled
their registration when NZQA started investigating.
One industry representative says some owners of schools never have any
intention of providing quality education - it's all about cashing in.
"The owners and directors - they've set up the business to basically
gouge it," says Auckland International Education Group's Paul
Chambers.
In the case of IANZ - an Auckland provider - the directors sold their
business after getting busted for alleged fraudulent activity. They're
now trying to leave the country.
"The Government is wilfully blind, incompetent or lacking in systems,"
says Mr Cunliffe.
However, the Government disagrees.
"We actually have a far more robust system under this Government,"
says Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce. "We've tightened up
requirements on both private and public providers."
But Mr Chalmers says audits have only tightened up after Newshub's
investigation.
"I think the role of the media in this has been crucial. We have a
free media that's been able to go after these people and put pressure
on Government agencies," he says.
The 45 schools with serious issues are around 10 percent of all
training providers in the country.
To make matters worse - some of those providers even got taxpayer
funding from the Tertiary Education Commission.
"The system is broken - I think it's time for a full independent
inquiry," Mr Cunliffe says.
But the Government says that's not necessary - and insists it is
taking action against the problematic providers.
"Most Tertiary Education Organisations (TEOs), both publicly and
privately-owned, are high performing and have robust internal systems
in place to ensure they are continually improving," says NZQA's deputy
chief executive of quality assurance, Dr Grant Klinkum.
"A very small number of TEOs are not meeting NZQA's high expectations.
Poor performance by providers damages student learning and the
reputation of New Zealand's education system and will not be tolerated
by NZQA. NZQA proactively reviews the quality of providers and also
investigates complaints about providers."
Those are private training schools, and have nothing do do with charter
No, I contrasted them - charter schools can be even more profitable -
with much higher government support for those profits.
your continued, disgraceful dishonesty here? Either seems very likely.Are you displaying your complete and utter ignorance, or just displaying
What is it about the articles that refutes my claim of incompetence,
JohnO?
On Thursday, 3 November 2016 13:39:35 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:No, I contrasted them - charter schools can be even more profitable -
New Zealand sure is a great place to start up a business. If you pick
it right, the government will give you taxpayer funding, help you to
bring customers in from overseas, you don't have to provide a real
service, and when it goes wrong you just walk away with the profits!
Its not quite as good as Charter Schools (where if you do it right you
get to keep the property - what a way to buy a farm!), but this one
looks like just what your friendly National MP thinks is the bees
knees :
http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/mass-nzqa-investigations-into-international-schools-2016110218
A Newshub investigation has revealed 81 international schools have
been under investigation by NZQA, and more than half have been found
to have broken the law or other NZQA rules.
Worse, 45 of those private training schools have been found to have
"serious issues" which breach the Education Act or other NZQA rules.
Things like students paying fees to get false attendance records,
schools advertising courses they don't even provide, cheating on
English language testing, and even giving qualifications to students
who haven't completed the requirements.
And the list goes on. On top of that, many of the schools who were
caught out simply shut their doors, leaving students in the lurch.
"This is an utter shambles. The system is in meltdown," says Labour's
Associate Tertiary Education spokesperson David Cunliffe.
Here are a few examples:
Te Kaupapa Training in Lower Hutt - deregistered after refusing to
hand over financial records to NZQA.
Health Ed Trust in Christchurch shut up shop after being caught
subcontracting out work without approval.
And a provider operating out of one building in Auckland was "found to
have engaged in dishonest behaviour".
"I think the industry has for a long time had a reputation as
something to get into as a way to get rich quick," says immigration
lawyer Alistair McClymont.
"Start a school, get NZQA approval, you make your money and get out
before the compliance issues catch up with you."
Documents show more than a dozen providers just sold up or cancelled
their registration when NZQA started investigating.
One industry representative says some owners of schools never have any
intention of providing quality education - it's all about cashing in.
"The owners and directors - they've set up the business to basically
gouge it," says Auckland International Education Group's Paul
Chambers.
In the case of IANZ - an Auckland provider - the directors sold their
business after getting busted for alleged fraudulent activity. They're
now trying to leave the country.
"The Government is wilfully blind, incompetent or lacking in systems,"
says Mr Cunliffe.
However, the Government disagrees.
"We actually have a far more robust system under this Government,"
says Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce. "We've tightened up
requirements on both private and public providers."
But Mr Chalmers says audits have only tightened up after Newshub's
investigation.
"I think the role of the media in this has been crucial. We have a
free media that's been able to go after these people and put pressure
on Government agencies," he says.
The 45 schools with serious issues are around 10 percent of all
training providers in the country.
To make matters worse - some of those providers even got taxpayer
funding from the Tertiary Education Commission.
"The system is broken - I think it's time for a full independent
inquiry," Mr Cunliffe says.
But the Government says that's not necessary - and insists it is
taking action against the problematic providers.
"Most Tertiary Education Organisations (TEOs), both publicly and
privately-owned, are high performing and have robust internal systems
in place to ensure they are continually improving," says NZQA's deputy
chief executive of quality assurance, Dr Grant Klinkum.
"A very small number of TEOs are not meeting NZQA's high expectations.
Poor performance by providers damages student learning and the
reputation of New Zealand's education system and will not be tolerated
by NZQA. NZQA proactively reviews the quality of providers and also
investigates complaints about providers."
Those are private training schools, and have nothing do do with charter schools, yet you attempt to conflate them.
Are you displaying your complete and utter ignorance, or just displaying your continued, disgraceful dishonesty here? Either seems very likely.What is it about the articles that refutes my claim of incompetence,
On Thursday, 3 November 2016 14:53:49 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:clearly have absolutely *no* idea what you are talking about, and are simply regurgitating sound bites you heard elsewhere.
On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:01:12 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 3 November 2016 13:39:35 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:No, I contrasted them - charter schools can be even more profitable -
New Zealand sure is a great place to start up a business. If you pick
it right, the government will give you taxpayer funding, help you to
bring customers in from overseas, you don't have to provide a real
service, and when it goes wrong you just walk away with the profits!
Its not quite as good as Charter Schools (where if you do it right you >>>> get to keep the property - what a way to buy a farm!), but this one
looks like just what your friendly National MP thinks is the bees
knees :
http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/mass-nzqa-investigations-into-international-schools-2016110218
A Newshub investigation has revealed 81 international schools have
been under investigation by NZQA, and more than half have been found
to have broken the law or other NZQA rules.
Worse, 45 of those private training schools have been found to have
"serious issues" which breach the Education Act or other NZQA rules.
Things like students paying fees to get false attendance records,
schools advertising courses they don't even provide, cheating on
English language testing, and even giving qualifications to students
who haven't completed the requirements.
And the list goes on. On top of that, many of the schools who were
caught out simply shut their doors, leaving students in the lurch.
"This is an utter shambles. The system is in meltdown," says Labour's
Associate Tertiary Education spokesperson David Cunliffe.
Here are a few examples:
Te Kaupapa Training in Lower Hutt - deregistered after refusing to
hand over financial records to NZQA.
Health Ed Trust in Christchurch shut up shop after being caught
subcontracting out work without approval.
And a provider operating out of one building in Auckland was "found to >>>> have engaged in dishonest behaviour".
"I think the industry has for a long time had a reputation as
something to get into as a way to get rich quick," says immigration
lawyer Alistair McClymont.
"Start a school, get NZQA approval, you make your money and get out
before the compliance issues catch up with you."
Documents show more than a dozen providers just sold up or cancelled
their registration when NZQA started investigating.
One industry representative says some owners of schools never have any >>>> intention of providing quality education - it's all about cashing in.
"The owners and directors - they've set up the business to basically
gouge it," says Auckland International Education Group's Paul
Chambers.
In the case of IANZ - an Auckland provider - the directors sold their
business after getting busted for alleged fraudulent activity. They're >>>> now trying to leave the country.
"The Government is wilfully blind, incompetent or lacking in systems," >>>> says Mr Cunliffe.
However, the Government disagrees.
"We actually have a far more robust system under this Government,"
says Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce. "We've tightened up
requirements on both private and public providers."
But Mr Chalmers says audits have only tightened up after Newshub's
investigation.
"I think the role of the media in this has been crucial. We have a
free media that's been able to go after these people and put pressure
on Government agencies," he says.
The 45 schools with serious issues are around 10 percent of all
training providers in the country.
To make matters worse - some of those providers even got taxpayer
funding from the Tertiary Education Commission.
"The system is broken - I think it's time for a full independent
inquiry," Mr Cunliffe says.
But the Government says that's not necessary - and insists it is
taking action against the problematic providers.
"Most Tertiary Education Organisations (TEOs), both publicly and
privately-owned, are high performing and have robust internal systems
in place to ensure they are continually improving," says NZQA's deputy >>>> chief executive of quality assurance, Dr Grant Klinkum.
"A very small number of TEOs are not meeting NZQA's high expectations. >>>> Poor performance by providers damages student learning and the
reputation of New Zealand's education system and will not be tolerated >>>> by NZQA. NZQA proactively reviews the quality of providers and also
investigates complaints about providers."
Those are private training schools, and have nothing do do with charter schools, yet you attempt to conflate them.
"More profitable"? You were just complaining about them going broke. You
incompetence - they should do so. But you are, dishonestly or stupidly, conflating private educational institutions with charter schools.with much higher government support for those profits.
Lets see some examples of these windfall profits then.
Are you displaying your complete and utter ignorance, or just displaying your continued, disgraceful dishonesty here? Either seems very likely.What is it about the articles that refutes my claim of incompetence,
JohnO?
I don't care if some private business goes out of business due to
On Thursday, 3 November 2016 14:53:49 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:- they should do so. But you are, dishonestly or stupidly, conflating private educational institutions with charter schools.
On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:01:12 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 3 November 2016 13:39:35 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:No, I contrasted them - charter schools can be even more profitable -
New Zealand sure is a great place to start up a business. If you pick
it right, the government will give you taxpayer funding, help you to
bring customers in from overseas, you don't have to provide a real
service, and when it goes wrong you just walk away with the profits!
Its not quite as good as Charter Schools (where if you do it right you
get to keep the property - what a way to buy a farm!), but this one
looks like just what your friendly National MP thinks is the bees
knees :
http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/mass-nzqa-investigations-into-international-schools-2016110218
A Newshub investigation has revealed 81 international schools have
been under investigation by NZQA, and more than half have been found
to have broken the law or other NZQA rules.
Worse, 45 of those private training schools have been found to have
"serious issues" which breach the Education Act or other NZQA rules.
Things like students paying fees to get false attendance records,
schools advertising courses they don't even provide, cheating on
English language testing, and even giving qualifications to students
who haven't completed the requirements.
And the list goes on. On top of that, many of the schools who were
caught out simply shut their doors, leaving students in the lurch.
"This is an utter shambles. The system is in meltdown," says Labour's
Associate Tertiary Education spokesperson David Cunliffe.
Here are a few examples:
Te Kaupapa Training in Lower Hutt - deregistered after refusing to
hand over financial records to NZQA.
Health Ed Trust in Christchurch shut up shop after being caught
subcontracting out work without approval.
And a provider operating out of one building in Auckland was "found to
have engaged in dishonest behaviour".
"I think the industry has for a long time had a reputation as
something to get into as a way to get rich quick," says immigration
lawyer Alistair McClymont.
"Start a school, get NZQA approval, you make your money and get out
before the compliance issues catch up with you."
Documents show more than a dozen providers just sold up or cancelled
their registration when NZQA started investigating.
One industry representative says some owners of schools never have any
intention of providing quality education - it's all about cashing in.
"The owners and directors - they've set up the business to basically
gouge it," says Auckland International Education Group's Paul
Chambers.
In the case of IANZ - an Auckland provider - the directors sold their
business after getting busted for alleged fraudulent activity. They're
now trying to leave the country.
"The Government is wilfully blind, incompetent or lacking in systems,"
says Mr Cunliffe.
However, the Government disagrees.
"We actually have a far more robust system under this Government,"
says Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce. "We've tightened up
requirements on both private and public providers."
But Mr Chalmers says audits have only tightened up after Newshub's
investigation.
"I think the role of the media in this has been crucial. We have a
free media that's been able to go after these people and put pressure
on Government agencies," he says.
The 45 schools with serious issues are around 10 percent of all
training providers in the country.
To make matters worse - some of those providers even got taxpayer
funding from the Tertiary Education Commission.
"The system is broken - I think it's time for a full independent
inquiry," Mr Cunliffe says.
But the Government says that's not necessary - and insists it is
taking action against the problematic providers.
"Most Tertiary Education Organisations (TEOs), both publicly and
privately-owned, are high performing and have robust internal systems
in place to ensure they are continually improving," says NZQA's deputy
chief executive of quality assurance, Dr Grant Klinkum.
"A very small number of TEOs are not meeting NZQA's high expectations.
Poor performance by providers damages student learning and the
reputation of New Zealand's education system and will not be tolerated
by NZQA. NZQA proactively reviews the quality of providers and also
investigates complaints about providers."
Those are private training schools, and have nothing do do with charter schools, yet you attempt to conflate them.
"More profitable"? You were just complaining about them going broke. You clearly have absolutely *no* idea what you are talking about, and are simply regurgitating sound bites you heard elsewhere.
with much higher government support for those profits.
Lets see some examples of these windfall profits then.
Are you displaying your complete and utter ignorance, or just displaying your continued, disgraceful dishonesty here? Either seems very likely.What is it about the articles that refutes my claim of incompetence,
JohnO?
I don't care if some private business goes out of business due to incompetence
Those are private training schools, and have nothing do do with charterschools, yet you attempt to conflate them.
Are you displaying your complete and utter ignorance, or just displaying yourcontinued, disgraceful dishonesty here? Either seems very likely.
On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 19:18:23 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>schools, yet you attempt to conflate them.
wrote:
On Thursday, 3 November 2016 14:53:49 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:01:12 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 3 November 2016 13:39:35 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
New Zealand sure is a great place to start up a business. If you pick >> >> it right, the government will give you taxpayer funding, help you to
bring customers in from overseas, you don't have to provide a real
service, and when it goes wrong you just walk away with the profits!
Its not quite as good as Charter Schools (where if you do it right you >> >> get to keep the property - what a way to buy a farm!), but this one
looks like just what your friendly National MP thinks is the bees
knees :
http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/mass-nzqa-investigations-into-international-schools-2016110218
A Newshub investigation has revealed 81 international schools have
been under investigation by NZQA, and more than half have been found
to have broken the law or other NZQA rules.
Worse, 45 of those private training schools have been found to have
"serious issues" which breach the Education Act or other NZQA rules.
Things like students paying fees to get false attendance records,
schools advertising courses they don't even provide, cheating on
English language testing, and even giving qualifications to students
who haven't completed the requirements.
And the list goes on. On top of that, many of the schools who were
caught out simply shut their doors, leaving students in the lurch.
"This is an utter shambles. The system is in meltdown," says Labour's >> >> Associate Tertiary Education spokesperson David Cunliffe.
Here are a few examples:
Te Kaupapa Training in Lower Hutt - deregistered after refusing to
hand over financial records to NZQA.
Health Ed Trust in Christchurch shut up shop after being caught
subcontracting out work without approval.
And a provider operating out of one building in Auckland was "found to >> >> have engaged in dishonest behaviour".
"I think the industry has for a long time had a reputation as
something to get into as a way to get rich quick," says immigration
lawyer Alistair McClymont.
"Start a school, get NZQA approval, you make your money and get out
before the compliance issues catch up with you."
Documents show more than a dozen providers just sold up or cancelled
their registration when NZQA started investigating.
One industry representative says some owners of schools never have any >> >> intention of providing quality education - it's all about cashing in. >> >>
"The owners and directors - they've set up the business to basically
gouge it," says Auckland International Education Group's Paul
Chambers.
In the case of IANZ - an Auckland provider - the directors sold their >> >> business after getting busted for alleged fraudulent activity. They're >> >> now trying to leave the country.
"The Government is wilfully blind, incompetent or lacking in systems," >> >> says Mr Cunliffe.
However, the Government disagrees.
"We actually have a far more robust system under this Government,"
says Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce. "We've tightened up
requirements on both private and public providers."
But Mr Chalmers says audits have only tightened up after Newshub's
investigation.
"I think the role of the media in this has been crucial. We have a
free media that's been able to go after these people and put pressure >> >> on Government agencies," he says.
The 45 schools with serious issues are around 10 percent of all
training providers in the country.
To make matters worse - some of those providers even got taxpayer
funding from the Tertiary Education Commission.
"The system is broken - I think it's time for a full independent
inquiry," Mr Cunliffe says.
But the Government says that's not necessary - and insists it is
taking action against the problematic providers.
"Most Tertiary Education Organisations (TEOs), both publicly and
privately-owned, are high performing and have robust internal systems >> >> in place to ensure they are continually improving," says NZQA's deputy >> >> chief executive of quality assurance, Dr Grant Klinkum.
"A very small number of TEOs are not meeting NZQA's high expectations. >> >> Poor performance by providers damages student learning and the
reputation of New Zealand's education system and will not be tolerated >> >> by NZQA. NZQA proactively reviews the quality of providers and also
investigates complaints about providers."
Those are private training schools, and have nothing do do with charter
clearly have absolutely *no* idea what you are talking about, and are simply regurgitating sound bites you heard elsewhere.No, I contrasted them - charter schools can be even more profitable -
"More profitable"? You were just complaining about them going broke. You
your continued, disgraceful dishonesty here? Either seems very likely.with much higher government support for those profits.
Lets see some examples of these windfall profits then.
Are you displaying your complete and utter ignorance, or just displaying
incompetence - they should do so. But you are, dishonestly or stupidly, conflating private educational institutions with charter schools.What is it about the articles that refutes my claim of incompetence,
JohnO?
I don't care if some private business goes out of business due to
Read the article, JohnO
On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 19:18:23 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 3 November 2016 14:53:49 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 2 Nov 2016 18:01:12 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 3 November 2016 13:39:35 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:No, I contrasted them - charter schools can be even more profitable -
New Zealand sure is a great place to start up a business. If you pick >>>>> it right, the government will give you taxpayer funding, help you to >>>>> bring customers in from overseas, you don't have to provide a real
service, and when it goes wrong you just walk away with the profits! >>>>>
Its not quite as good as Charter Schools (where if you do it right you >>>>> get to keep the property - what a way to buy a farm!), but this one
looks like just what your friendly National MP thinks is the bees
knees :
http://www.newshub.co.nz/nznews/mass-nzqa-investigations-into-international-schools-2016110218
A Newshub investigation has revealed 81 international schools have
been under investigation by NZQA, and more than half have been found >>>>> to have broken the law or other NZQA rules.
Worse, 45 of those private training schools have been found to have
"serious issues" which breach the Education Act or other NZQA rules. >>>>>
Things like students paying fees to get false attendance records,
schools advertising courses they don't even provide, cheating on
English language testing, and even giving qualifications to students >>>>> who haven't completed the requirements.
And the list goes on. On top of that, many of the schools who were
caught out simply shut their doors, leaving students in the lurch.
"This is an utter shambles. The system is in meltdown," says Labour's >>>>> Associate Tertiary Education spokesperson David Cunliffe.
Here are a few examples:
Te Kaupapa Training in Lower Hutt - deregistered after refusing to
hand over financial records to NZQA.
Health Ed Trust in Christchurch shut up shop after being caught
subcontracting out work without approval.
And a provider operating out of one building in Auckland was "found to >>>>> have engaged in dishonest behaviour".
"I think the industry has for a long time had a reputation as
something to get into as a way to get rich quick," says immigration
lawyer Alistair McClymont.
"Start a school, get NZQA approval, you make your money and get out
before the compliance issues catch up with you."
Documents show more than a dozen providers just sold up or cancelled >>>>> their registration when NZQA started investigating.
One industry representative says some owners of schools never have any >>>>> intention of providing quality education - it's all about cashing in. >>>>>
"The owners and directors - they've set up the business to basically >>>>> gouge it," says Auckland International Education Group's Paul
Chambers.
In the case of IANZ - an Auckland provider - the directors sold their >>>>> business after getting busted for alleged fraudulent activity. They're >>>>> now trying to leave the country.
"The Government is wilfully blind, incompetent or lacking in systems," >>>>> says Mr Cunliffe.
However, the Government disagrees.
"We actually have a far more robust system under this Government,"
says Tertiary Education Minister Steven Joyce. "We've tightened up
requirements on both private and public providers."
But Mr Chalmers says audits have only tightened up after Newshub's
investigation.
"I think the role of the media in this has been crucial. We have a
free media that's been able to go after these people and put pressure >>>>> on Government agencies," he says.
The 45 schools with serious issues are around 10 percent of all
training providers in the country.
To make matters worse - some of those providers even got taxpayer
funding from the Tertiary Education Commission.
"The system is broken - I think it's time for a full independent
inquiry," Mr Cunliffe says.
But the Government says that's not necessary - and insists it is
taking action against the problematic providers.
"Most Tertiary Education Organisations (TEOs), both publicly and
privately-owned, are high performing and have robust internal systems >>>>> in place to ensure they are continually improving," says NZQA's deputy >>>>> chief executive of quality assurance, Dr Grant Klinkum.
"A very small number of TEOs are not meeting NZQA's high expectations. >>>>> Poor performance by providers damages student learning and the
reputation of New Zealand's education system and will not be tolerated >>>>> by NZQA. NZQA proactively reviews the quality of providers and also
investigates complaints about providers."
Those are private training schools, and have nothing do do with charter schools, yet you attempt to conflate them.
"More profitable"? You were just complaining about them going broke. You clearly have absolutely *no* idea what you are talking about, and are simply regurgitating sound bites you heard elsewhere.
with much higher government support for those profits.
Lets see some examples of these windfall profits then.
Are you displaying your complete and utter ignorance, or just displaying your continued, disgraceful dishonesty here? Either seems very likely.What is it about the articles that refutes my claim of incompetence,
JohnO?
I don't care if some private business goes out of business due to incompetence - they should do so. But you are, dishonestly or stupidly, conflating private educational institutions with charter schools.
Read the article, JohnO
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