Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse-after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :And yet you drew a parrallel between the government and the Trump campaign - you are really two-faced.
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse-after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :And yet you drew a parrallel between the government and the Trump campaign - you are really two-faced.
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse-after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
Tony
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse-
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse- >after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse- >>after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore
point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses
within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, because
all the Government can control is whether the houses are affordable,
which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the data
will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that not
just measures the price of the house but the number of people in the
home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing
continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the stats, depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what
people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to
know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do a
lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of Trump
and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true -
Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special
areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be on
the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean anything?
8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies, obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse- >>>after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore
point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses
within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home
buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, because
all the Government can control is whether the houses are affordable,
which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the data
will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that not
just measures the price of the house but the number of people in the
home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing
continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we
pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what
people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to
know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do a
lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of Trump
and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true -
Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special
areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be on
the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean anything?
8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies, obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious >claptrap.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious claptrap.
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse- >>>>after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore
point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses
within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home
buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless,
because all the Government can control is whether the houses are
affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the
data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that
not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in
the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing
continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the
stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we
pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what
people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to
know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do a
lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of
Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true -
Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special
areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be
on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious >>claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the
view of NewstalkZB at least.
On 10/18/2016 4:19 PM, HitAnyKey wrote:
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious
claptrap.
The bit that amuses me is the angry little mans 18 houses built claim..
That's around the weekly completion rate in one of the Auckland suburbs...net profit? What re you talking about?
So far we have good employment rates, a growing economy and a net profit.
the angry little man and pitiful Peters are having a bidding war as to
how many cops they'll have ...... IF they get into Government.
And they want to build houses for every-one just don't ask how or where
the moneys coming from
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse- >>>>>after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore
point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses
within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home >>>> buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless,
because all the Government can control is whether the houses are
affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the
data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that
not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in
the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing
continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the
stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we >>>> pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what
people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to
know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do a >>>> lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of
Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true -
Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special
areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be
on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious >>>claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the
view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKeyHave you ever wondered about why it is nearly always you that believes they are being attacked?
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> >>> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse- >>>>>>after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore >>>>> point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses
within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home >>>>> buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless,
because all the Government can control is whether the houses are
affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the
data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that
not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in >>>>> the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing
continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the
stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we >>>>> pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what
people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to >>>>> know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do a >>>>> lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of
Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true -
Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special >>>>> areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be >>>>> on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious >>>>claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the
view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKeyHave you ever wondered about why it is nearly always you that believes they are
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse- >>>>>>>after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore >>>>>> point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses >>>>>> within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home >>>>>> buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless,
because all the Government can control is whether the houses are
affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the >>>>>> data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that >>>>>> not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in >>>>>> the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing
continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the
stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we >>>>>> pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what >>>>>> people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to >>>>>> know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do a >>>>>> lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special >>>>>> areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be >>>>>> on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious >>>>>claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the >>>> view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other >>posters . . .
being attacked?
Tony
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:52:14 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com>abuse-
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-
after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore >>>>>> point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses >>>>>> within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first
home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless,
because all the Government can control is whether the houses are
affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the >>>>>> data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that >>>>>> not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in >>>>>> the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing
continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the
stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As >>>>>> we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so
what people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to >>>>>> know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do >>>>>> a lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special >>>>>> areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be >>>>>> on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of >>>>>mendacious claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the >>>> view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
Your reasoning requires there to have been reasoned argument - which, I'm >bound to say, I haven't been able to find.
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:abuse-
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-
after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore >>>>> point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses
within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first
home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless,
because all the Government can control is whether the houses are
affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the
data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that
not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in >>>>> the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing
continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the
stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As
we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so
what people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to >>>>> know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do >>>>> a lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of
Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true -
Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special >>>>> areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be >>>>> on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of
mendacious claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the
view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:42:39 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:52:14 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to- >>abuse-
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government
sore point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18
houses within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to >>>>>>> first home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, >>>>>>> because all the Government can control is whether the houses are >>>>>>> affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that
the data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one
that not just measures the price of the house but the number of
people in the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are >>>>>>> changing continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the >>>>>>> stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. >>>>>>> As we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, >>>>>>> so what people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better >>>>>>> to know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can >>>>>>> do a lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these
special areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is
rumoured to be on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of >>>>>>mendacious claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with
the view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
Your reasoning requires there to have been reasoned argument - which,
I'm bound to say, I haven't been able to find.
Ahh - the Pooh-troll.
Have you ever wondered about why it is nearly always you that believes theyare
being attacked?
Tony
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:43:35 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot netI repeat, if only to show that I followed your lead when you started complaining about being attacked.... And you are always changing the subject of threads.
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKeyHave you ever wondered about why it is nearly always you that believes they >>are
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse- >>>>>>>>after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore >>>>>>> point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses >>>>>>> within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home >>>>>>> buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, >>>>>>> because all the Government can control is whether the houses are >>>>>>> affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the >>>>>>> data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that >>>>>>> not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in >>>>>>> the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing >>>>>>> continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the >>>>>>> stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we >>>>>>> pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what >>>>>>> people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to >>>>>>> know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do a >>>>>>> lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special >>>>>>> areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be >>>>>>> on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious >>>>>>claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the >>>>> view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other >>>posters . . .
being attacked?
Tony
The subject of the thread, Tony, is what happens when reasoned
argument runs out - as Nick Smith and now HitAny Key have demonstrated
a response increasingly used by National is to resort to abuse. ou are >demonstating a different response - trying to deflectthe subject. That
one is starting to wear thin as well, hence the resort to abuse. Of
course we now know that some Cabinet Ministers are being told to sort
out the wording of their decision to retire at the next election - or
even before - perhaps Nick Smith has that on his mind as well, which
may be making him a little testy; that does not excuse the behaviour
of course.
The other maintays of National tactics when faced with no reasonable
response is to walk away or lie, but they are also starting to get
tiresome and rather obvious to media.
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:07:28 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:42:39 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:52:14 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to- >>>abuse-
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government >>>>>>>> sore point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18
houses within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to >>>>>>>> first home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, >>>>>>>> because all the Government can control is whether the houses are >>>>>>>> affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from >>>>>>>> reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that >>>>>>>> the data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one >>>>>>>> that not just measures the price of the house but the number of >>>>>>>> people in the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are >>>>>>>> changing continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the >>>>>>>> stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. >>>>>>>> As we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, >>>>>>>> so what people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better >>>>>>>> to know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can >>>>>>>> do a lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these
special areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is
rumoured to be on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of >>>>>>>mendacious claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with >>>>>> the view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
Your reasoning requires there to have been reasoned argument - which,
I'm bound to say, I haven't been able to find.
Ahh - the Pooh-troll.
That's a reasoned argument, is it?
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse-
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore
point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses
within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless,
because all the Government can control is whether the houses are
affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the
data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that
not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in
the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the
stats, depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what
people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to
know?
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:42:39 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:52:14 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> >> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to- >abuse-
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore >>>>>> point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses >>>>>> within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first >>>>>> home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, >>>>>> because all the Government can control is whether the houses are >>>>>> affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the >>>>>> data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that >>>>>> not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in >>>>>> the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing >>>>>> continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the >>>>>> stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As >>>>>> we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so >>>>>> what people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to >>>>>> know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do >>>>>> a lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special >>>>>> areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be >>>>>> on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of >>>>>mendacious claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the >>>> view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
Your reasoning requires there to have been reasoned argument - which, I'm >bound to say, I haven't been able to find.
Ahh - the Pooh-troll.
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> >>> wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse-
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore
point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses
within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home
buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, because >>> all the Government can control is whether the houses are affordable,
which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the data >>> will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that not
just measures the price of the house but the number of people in the
home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing
continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the stats, >>> depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we
pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what
people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to
know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do a
lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of Trump >>> and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true -
Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special
areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be on
the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean anything?
8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies, obfuscation, >>> and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious
claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the
view of NewstalkZB at least.
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> >>> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse- >>>>>> after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore >>>>> point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses
within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home >>>>> buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless,
because all the Government can control is whether the houses are
affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the
data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that
not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in >>>>> the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing
continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the
stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we >>>>> pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what
people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to >>>>> know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do a >>>>> lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of
Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true -
Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special >>>>> areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be >>>>> on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious >>>> claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the
view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 22:43:35 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
dot nz> wrote:
Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKeyHave you ever wondered about why it is nearly always you that believes they are
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>>> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse- >>>>>>>> after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore >>>>>>> point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses >>>>>>> within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first home >>>>>>> buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, >>>>>>> because all the Government can control is whether the houses are >>>>>>> affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the >>>>>>> data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that >>>>>>> not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in >>>>>>> the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing >>>>>>> continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the >>>>>>> stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As we >>>>>>> pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so what >>>>>>> people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to >>>>>>> know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do a >>>>>>> lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special >>>>>>> areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be >>>>>>> on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious >>>>>> claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the >>>>> view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
being attacked?
Tony
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-abuse-after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:42:08 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:07:28 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:42:39 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:52:14 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to- >>>>abuse-
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government >>>>>>>>> sore point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 >>>>>>>>> houses within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went >>>>>>>>> to first home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, >>>>>>>>> because all the Government can control is whether the houses are >>>>>>>>> affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from >>>>>>>>> reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that >>>>>>>>> the data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one >>>>>>>>> that not just measures the price of the house but the number of >>>>>>>>> people in the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data >>>>>>>>> are changing continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate >>>>>>>>> the stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. >>>>>>>>> As we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in
2008, so what people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who
better to know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government >>>>>>>>> can do a lot of things. So that's one statement that is not
true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge >>>>>>>>> of Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official >>>>>>>>> Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true >>>>>>>>> -
Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these >>>>>>>>> special areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is >>>>>>>>> rumoured to be on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean >>>>>>>>> anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of >>>>>>>>mendacious claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with >>>>>>> the view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking
other posters . . .
Your reasoning requires there to have been reasoned argument - which, >>>>I'm bound to say, I haven't been able to find.
Ahh - the Pooh-troll.
That's a reasoned argument, is it?
It is an observation. Are you confirming that you are Pooh? I am not responsible for your lack of comprehension, as I told Pooh on a number
of occasions, he should seek assistance from someone he trusts to
explain some matters to him.If you are not Pooh then I apologise if the comparison offends you, but you seemed to be having similar problems to
those I remember from that poster.
On 10/18/2016 4:19 PM, HitAnyKey wrote:
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of mendacious
claptrap.
The bit that amuses me is the angry little mans 18 houses built claim.. That's around the weekly completion rate in one of the Auckland suburbs...
So far we have good employment rates, a growing economy and a net profit.
the angry little man and pitiful Peters are having a bidding war as to
how many cops they'll have ...... IF they get into Government.
And they want to build houses for every-one just don't ask how or where
the moneys coming from
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:42:39 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:52:14 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> >>> wrote:abuse-
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-
after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore >>>>>>> point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses >>>>>>> within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first >>>>>>> home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, >>>>>>> because all the Government can control is whether the houses are >>>>>>> affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from
reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the >>>>>>> data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that >>>>>>> not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in >>>>>>> the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing >>>>>>> continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the >>>>>>> stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As >>>>>>> we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so >>>>>>> what people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to >>>>>>> know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do >>>>>>> a lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special >>>>>>> areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be >>>>>>> on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of
mendacious claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the >>>>> view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
Your reasoning requires there to have been reasoned argument - which, I'm
bound to say, I haven't been able to find.
Ahh - the Pooh-troll.
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:07:28 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:42:39 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:52:14 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKeyabuse-
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-
after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government >>>>>>>> sore point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18
houses within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to >>>>>>>> first home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, >>>>>>>> because all the Government can control is whether the houses are >>>>>>>> affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from >>>>>>>> reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that >>>>>>>> the data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one >>>>>>>> that not just measures the price of the house but the number of >>>>>>>> people in the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are >>>>>>>> changing continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the >>>>>>>> stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. >>>>>>>> As we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, >>>>>>>> so what people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better >>>>>>>> to know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can >>>>>>>> do a lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these
special areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is
rumoured to be on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of
mendacious claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with >>>>>> the view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
Your reasoning requires there to have been reasoned argument - which,
I'm bound to say, I haven't been able to find.
Ahh - the Pooh-troll.
That's a reasoned argument, is it?
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 10:42:08 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:07:28 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:42:39 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> >>> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:52:14 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKeyabuse-
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-
after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government >>>>>>>>> sore point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 >>>>>>>>> houses within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to >>>>>>>>> first home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, >>>>>>>>> because all the Government can control is whether the houses are >>>>>>>>> affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from >>>>>>>>> reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that >>>>>>>>> the data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one >>>>>>>>> that not just measures the price of the house but the number of >>>>>>>>> people in the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are >>>>>>>>> changing continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the >>>>>>>>> stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. >>>>>>>>> As we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, >>>>>>>>> so what people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better >>>>>>>>> to know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can >>>>>>>>> do a lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true. >>>>>>>>> 4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official >>>>>>>>> Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these >>>>>>>>> special areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is >>>>>>>>> rumoured to be on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean >>>>>>>>> anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of
mendacious claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with >>>>>>> the view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other >>>>> posters . . .
Your reasoning requires there to have been reasoned argument - which,
I'm bound to say, I haven't been able to find.
Ahh - the Pooh-troll.
That's a reasoned argument, is it?
It is an observation. Are you confirming that you are Pooh? I am not responsible for your lack of comprehension, as I told Pooh on a number
of occasions, he should seek assistance from someone he trusts to
explain some matters to him.If you are not Pooh then I apologise if
the comparison offends you, but you seemed to be having similar
problems to those I remember from that poster.
On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 23:07:36 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:ad-hominem. Dickbot, you really are hypocritical, retarded little fuckwit.
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 09:42:39 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 15:52:14 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 19:58:10 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey <nobody@nowhere.com> >>>> wrote:abuse-
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 23:33:59 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 03:19:19 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:36:44 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:46:04 -0000 (UTC), HitAnyKey
<nobody@nowhere.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 17 Oct 2016 20:51:18 +1300, Rich80105 wrote:
Sometimes personal abuse is all the Nats have :
http://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/news/politics/national-resorts-to-
after-labour-hits-affordable-housing-sore-point/
It's only abuse if it isn't true .....
Which bits are true, HitAnyKey?
1. National's resorting to abuse, after Labour hit a Government sore >>>>>>>> point over affordable housing.
2. Andrew Little's released information showing that just 18 houses >>>>>>>> within fast-tracked Auckland special housing areas, went to first >>>>>>>> home buyers.
3. Housing Minister Nick Smith contends the data is meaningless, >>>>>>>> because all the Government can control is whether the houses are >>>>>>>> affordable, which he says they are.
4. "Mr Little is almost being Trump-like in his disconnect from >>>>>>>> reality."
5. Dr Smith said affordability is such a value-laden term, that the >>>>>>>> data will always be inaccurate.
6. "The affordability criteria that he's wanting to use is one that >>>>>>>> not just measures the price of the house but the number of people in >>>>>>>> the home, and what their incomes are. Now those data are changing >>>>>>>> continuously."
7. Finance Minister Bill English said it's easy to manipulate the >>>>>>>> stats,
depending on how the terms are defined.
8. "Affordable is to a large extent in the eyes of the beholder. As >>>>>>>> we pointed out interest rates are half what they were in 2008, so >>>>>>>> what people regard as affordable is up to them."
1. NewstalkZB believe this apparently.
2. This was information provided by Auckland Council - who better to >>>>>>>> know?
3. It doesn;t seemto be meaningless, and of course government can do >>>>>>>> a lot of things. So that's one statement that is not true.
4. Gratuitous personal attack - anyone with a passing knowledge of >>>>>>>> Trump and Little knows that it is not true.
5. Is he accusing the AucklandCouncil of lying to an Official
Information reuest? Not true for that one then 6. Again not true - >>>>>>>> Andrew Little merely passed on the number of houses in these special >>>>>>>> areas bought by first home buyers. No wonder Smith is rumoured to be >>>>>>>> on the chop list for a cabinet reshuffle.
7. But he doesn't dispute the facts - does his statement mean
anything? 8. What a load of shit - not true again.
So National is flailing around trying to respond with lies,
obfuscation,
and yes personal attacks.
You really are going to have to try harder than that load of
mendacious claptrap.
Are you calling Nick Smith mendacious? That seems consistent with the >>>>>> view of NewstalkZB at least.
Contemptuous of your readership once again, eh.
When reasoned argument runs out, HitAnyKey resorts to attacking other
posters . . .
Your reasoning requires there to have been reasoned argument - which, I'm >>> bound to say, I haven't been able to find.
Ahh - the Pooh-troll.
In a thread started by you, complaining about ad-hominems, you make an
And by the way, it is blindingly obvious that HitAnyKey is not Pooh. Well,blindingly obvious to anyone with an IQ greater than that of an amoeba, anyway.
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