• What a surprise

    From Tony @3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, October 12, 2016 21:16:01
    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It shows how desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they are looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a self-confessed woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony

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  • From Gordon@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, October 13, 2016 04:53:45
    On 2016-10-13, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It shows
    how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they are looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a self-confessed woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony

    The really interesting question is, what would those two maps look like if
    the Democratic candiate was a man. Is this election about gender values?

    America, not the most stable of places.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to Gordon on Thursday, October 13, 2016 00:53:36
    Gordon <Gordon@clear.net.nz> wrote:
    On 2016-10-13, Tony <lizandtony> wrote:
    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious
    minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many
    Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It shows >>how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they are >> looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a self-confessed >> woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony

    The really interesting question is, what would those two maps look like if >the Democratic candiate was a man. Is this election about gender values?
    I don't know the answer to either but it is probably irrelevant. Neither candidate is ideal, it is a question of the best of two imperfect options is it not?

    America, not the most stable of places.
    The trouble is when they sneeze we catch a cold as does most of the world - I wish that were not the case but there will always be one country that does that to the rest of the planet!

    Tony

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to george on Thursday, October 13, 2016 12:58:34
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 08:39:44 UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:
    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It shows
    how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they are looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a self-confessed woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election.


    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will
    turn their support off

    Trump's dog tucker.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37450661

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Tony on Friday, October 14, 2016 08:39:38
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:
    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It shows
    how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they are looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a self-confessed woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to
    court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election.


    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will
    turn their support off

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Friday, October 14, 2016 09:42:59
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:39:38 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:
    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious
    minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many
    Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It shows how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they are >> looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a self-confessed >> woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to >court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election.


    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will
    turn their support off

    Are you really supporting Trump, george? Do you really believe there
    is some tactic of the democrats that has caused his fall?

    Read this: http://qz.com/805918/why-donald-trumps-access-hollywood-tape-was-the-last-straw-for-paul-ryan-and-the-gop/

    You will notice that the same tactics have been used by "conservative" governments around the world - after all, all that matters is getting
    the votes - honesty and fairness is subservient to that imperative! So
    we get poll driven policies and statements, carefully pandering to
    prejudice, to underlying concerns, conveniently identifying
    scape-goats, conveniently offering a vision of an unreal world. Here
    in New Zealand the most recent example would be Judith Collins
    claiming that poor parents don't love their children, that there is
    plenty of money to all those in need. The sedds of the fall were there
    for anyone to see, but the Republicans put up with the intolerable
    infavour of the prospect of power - in effect they fell for their own
    bullshit.

    It seems you are still in thrall, george. Wake up, open your eyes, and
    ask yourself is a divided national, with an underclass blamed for
    their low wages, their poverty, there inability to pay rent despite
    two jobs really the New Zealand that we want?

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Thursday, October 13, 2016 17:01:38
    george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:
    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious
    minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many
    Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It shows >>how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they are >> looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a self-confessed >> woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Based on the stupidity of the Republicans to date I doubt it.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to >court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election.


    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will
    turn their support off

    Tony

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, October 13, 2016 17:00:55
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 08:39:44 UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:

    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious
    minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many >> > Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It
    shows how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they are >> > looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a self-confessed
    woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to
    court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election.


    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will
    turn their support off

    Trump's dog tucker.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37450661
    I fervently hope so.

    Tony

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to nor...@googlegroups.com on Thursday, October 13, 2016 15:53:26
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 11:01:01 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 08:39:44 UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:

    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious >> > minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many >> > Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It
    shows how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they
    are
    looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a
    self-confessed
    woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to >> court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election.


    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will
    turn their support off

    Trump's dog tucker.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37450661
    I fervently hope so.

    Tony

    It's still a losing proposition - getting HRC is only marginally less terrible than getting Drumpf.

    WTF is the matter with American voters?

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to JohnO on Thursday, October 13, 2016 18:30:50
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 11:01:01 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 08:39:44 UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:


    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious >> >> > minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many
    Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It >> >> >shows how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they >> >> >are
    looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a
    self-confessed
    woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to >> >> court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election.


    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will
    turn their support off

    Trump's dog tucker.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37450661
    I fervently hope so.

    Tony

    It's still a losing proposition - getting HRC is only marginally less terrible >than getting Drumpf.

    WTF is the matter with American voters?
    Speaking of ridiculous, with children running powerful countries see here http://newsthump.com/2016/10/07/putin-recalls-ambassador-to-us-following-obama-facebook-birthday-snub/
    Tony

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  • From BR@3:770/3 to All on Friday, October 14, 2016 18:49:19
    On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 14 October 2016 11:01:01 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 08:39:44 UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:

    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious >> >> > minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many
    Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It >> >> >shows how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they are
    looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a self-confessed
    woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to >> >> court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election.


    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will
    turn their support off

    Trump's dog tucker.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37450661
    I fervently hope so.

    Tony

    It's still a losing proposition - getting HRC is only marginally less terrible
    than getting Drumpf.

    No, Hillary Clinton would be worse.

    Bill.

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to buggeroff@spammer.com on Friday, October 14, 2016 01:49:09
    BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 14 October 2016 11:01:01 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote: >>> JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 08:39:44 UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:


    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious
    minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the >>> >> >many
    Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It >>> >> >shows how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they >>> >> >are
    looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a
    self-confessed
    woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at >>> >> the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to >>> >> court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election. >>> >>

    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will
    turn their support off

    Trump's dog tucker.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37450661
    I fervently hope so.

    Tony

    It's still a losing proposition - getting HRC is only marginally less >>terrible than getting Drumpf.

    No, Hillary Clinton would be worse.

    Bill.
    I am no defender of Clinton, and not of Trump either but presumably you have some evidence that suggesta that Clinton is worse than a bigot, liar, women hater and worse?
    Tony

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to nor...@googlegroups.com on Friday, October 14, 2016 00:49:57
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 19:49:15 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >wrote:

    On Friday, 14 October 2016 11:01:01 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote: >>> JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 08:39:44 UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:


    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly
    obnoxious
    minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the >>> >> >many
    Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic.
    It
    shows how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that
    they
    are
    looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a
    self-confessed
    woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at >>> >> the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire
    to
    court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election. >>> >>

    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will >>> >> turn their support off

    Trump's dog tucker.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37450661
    I fervently hope so.

    Tony

    It's still a losing proposition - getting HRC is only marginally less >>terrible than getting Drumpf.

    No, Hillary Clinton would be worse.

    Bill.
    I am no defender of Clinton, and not of Trump either but presumably you have some evidence that suggesta that Clinton is worse than a bigot, liar, women hater and worse?
    Tony

    And at least Clinton doesn't keep coming up with stupid ideas like 2000 mile walls.

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  • From Crash@3:770/3 to All on Friday, October 14, 2016 22:15:49
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:42:59 +1300, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 08:39:38 +1300, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:
    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious
    minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the many >>> Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It shows
    how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they are >>> looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a self-confessed >>> woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to >>court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election.


    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will
    turn their support off

    Are you really supporting Trump, george? Do you really believe there
    is some tactic of the democrats that has caused his fall?

    Read this: >http://qz.com/805918/why-donald-trumps-access-hollywood-tape-was-the-last-straw-for-paul-ryan-and-the-gop/

    You will notice that the same tactics have been used by "conservative" >governments around the world - after all, all that matters is getting
    the votes - honesty and fairness is subservient to that imperative! So
    we get poll driven policies and statements, carefully pandering to
    prejudice, to underlying concerns, conveniently identifying
    scape-goats, conveniently offering a vision of an unreal world. Here
    in New Zealand the most recent example would be Judith Collins
    claiming that poor parents don't love their children, that there is
    plenty of money to all those in need. The sedds of the fall were there
    for anyone to see, but the Republicans put up with the intolerable
    infavour of the prospect of power - in effect they fell for their own >bullshit.

    It seems you are still in thrall, george. Wake up, open your eyes, and
    ask yourself is a divided national, with an underclass blamed for
    their low wages, their poverty, there inability to pay rent despite
    two jobs really the New Zealand that we want?

    Rich there is no parallel between the politics of the current USA
    Presidential election issues and the politics of NZ. You are simply
    wrong to imply otherwise.


    --
    Crash McBash

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  • From BR@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, October 15, 2016 07:54:36
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 00:49:57 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 14 October 2016 19:49:15 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 14 October 2016 11:01:01 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote:
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 08:39:44 UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:


    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious
    minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the >> >>> >> >many
    Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It
    shows how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they
    are
    looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a
    self-confessed
    woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire
    to
    court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election. >> >>> >>

    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will >> >>> >> turn their support off

    Trump's dog tucker.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37450661
    I fervently hope so.

    Tony

    It's still a losing proposition - getting HRC is only marginally less
    terrible than getting Drumpf.

    No, Hillary Clinton would be worse.

    Bill.
    I am no defender of Clinton, and not of Trump either but presumably you have >> some evidence that suggesta that Clinton is worse than a bigot, liar, women >> hater and worse?
    Tony

    And at least Clinton doesn't keep coming up with stupid ideas like 2000 mile walls.

    What is so stupid about it? The border needs to be controlled. That's
    the point. No country can survive uncontrolled immigration. Milton
    Friedman said it best when he pointed out that you can have open
    borders or you can have a welfare state, but you cannot have both.

    The Democrats are in favour of open borders because every unskilled
    useless immigrant admitted into the US is another vote for the
    Democrat Party.

    Bill.

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  • From BR@3:770/3 to dot nz on Saturday, October 15, 2016 07:44:13
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 01:49:09 -0500, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
    dot nz> wrote:

    BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:

    On Friday, 14 October 2016 11:01:01 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote: >>>> JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 08:39:44 UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:


    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly obnoxious
    minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to the >>>> >> >many
    Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way misogynistic. It >>>> >> >shows how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that they
    are
    looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a
    self-confessed
    woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all.
    Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue at >>>> >> the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a billionaire to
    court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last election. >>>> >>

    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics will >>>> >> turn their support off

    Trump's dog tucker.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37450661
    I fervently hope so.

    Tony

    It's still a losing proposition - getting HRC is only marginally less >>>terrible than getting Drumpf.

    No, Hillary Clinton would be worse.

    Bill.
    I am no defender of Clinton, and not of Trump either but presumably you have >some evidence that suggesta that Clinton is worse than a bigot, liar, women >hater and worse?
    Tony

    Clinton is all of those things, and is also an unindicted felon, but
    the partisan media chooses to ignore that, preferring instead to put
    most of it's time and resources into seeking out anything it can use
    to discredit Trump.

    Bill.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Tony on Saturday, October 15, 2016 08:27:50
    On 10/14/2016 7:49 PM, Tony wrote:

    I am no defender of Clinton, and not of Trump either but presumably you have some evidence that suggesta that Clinton is worse than a bigot, liar, women hater and worse?
    Tony

    You should have realised by now that all those attributes were 'found'
    by democrats.
    And that politicians lie.
    As yet Trump is not a politician but he's practising

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Friday, October 14, 2016 15:35:01
    On Saturday, 15 October 2016 07:53:22 UTC+13, BR wrote:
    On Fri, 14 Oct 2016 00:49:57 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 14 October 2016 19:49:15 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com wrote: >> BR <buggeroff@spammer.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 13 Oct 2016 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 14 October 2016 11:01:01 UTC+13, nor...@googlegroups.com
    wrote:
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 14 October 2016 08:39:44 UTC+13, george wrote:
    On 10/13/2016 3:16 PM, Tony wrote:


    http://www.refinery29.com/2016/10/126224/trump-supporters-repeal-the-19th-hashtag
    Of course I don't believe this is anything but a particularly
    obnoxious
    minority, but dare I say it "only in America" with apologies to
    the
    many
    Americans I know who are well balanced and in no way
    misogynistic. It
    shows how
    desperate a number of bigoted half wits behave when they see that
    they
    are
    looking like losing their 'fuhrer'!
    What an incredible election; I am beginning to depair when a
    self-confessed
    woman molester (later denying it) gets any "any" support at all. >> >>> >> > Tony


    It's bullshit.
    Had anything happened do you imagine that, in the US where they sue
    at
    the drop of a hat, that these women wouldn't have taken a
    billionaire to
    court for a suck at his billions...
    This is the same MSM series of 'hits' that we saw here last
    election.


    And frankly the democrats are running a risk that their tactics
    will
    turn their support off

    Trump's dog tucker.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37450661
    I fervently hope so.

    Tony

    It's still a losing proposition - getting HRC is only marginally less
    terrible than getting Drumpf.

    No, Hillary Clinton would be worse.

    Bill.
    I am no defender of Clinton, and not of Trump either but presumably you
    have
    some evidence that suggesta that Clinton is worse than a bigot, liar,
    women
    hater and worse?
    Tony

    And at least Clinton doesn't keep coming up with stupid ideas like 2000 mile
    walls.

    What is so stupid about it?

    Oh lord, where would one start?

    How about the fact that most illegal Mexicans in the USA walked in through the border control points?

    They already have miles of fences around the populated areas. The wall through desert wastelands is a stupid, pointless costly non-idea.

    The border needs to be controlled. That's
    the point. No country can survive uncontrolled immigration. Milton
    Friedman said it best when he pointed out that you can have open
    borders or you can have a welfare state, but you cannot have both.

    None of the above is relevant to a pointless, impractical and useless wall through thousands of miles of barren desert.

    The Democrats are in favour of open borders

    No they're not.

    because every unskilled
    useless immigrant admitted into the US is another vote for the
    Democrat Party.

    No they're not.


    Bill.

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