• Latest Roy Morgan

    From Corky@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, October 02, 2016 08:20:11
    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, October 02, 2016 11:00:53
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:20:11 +1300, Corky <Corky@paradise.net.nz>
    wrote:


    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

    Perhaps people are seeing that "Brighter Future" that we were
    promised: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11720811

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, October 01, 2016 18:26:51
    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:00:50 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:20:11 +1300, Corky <Corky@paradise.net.nz>
    wrote:


    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

    Perhaps people are seeing that "Brighter Future" that we were
    promised: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11720811

    Nah, the poll's "bogus". And even if it isn't it's no use - Angry little Andy ain't interested in the "middle ground".

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, October 02, 2016 19:18:19
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:00:50 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:20:11 +1300, Corky <Corky@paradise.net.nz>
    wrote:


    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

    Perhaps people are seeing that "Brighter Future" that we were
    promised:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11720811

    Nah, the poll's "bogus". And even if it isn't it's no use - Angry little Andy ain't interested in the "middle ground".

    Either it is bogus or it is not - which do you believe, JohnO?
    Of course Andrew Little wants more than just the "middle ground"-
    Labour works for all New Zealanders, unlike the "3%" Nats and the
    "1%" ACT parties. But tehre is no need fr you to be worried, JOhnO -
    after all it would be unthinkable for Winston to not support his bosom
    buddy JohnKey, wouldn't it?

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Angry little Andy on Sunday, October 02, 2016 12:12:40
    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 19:18:13 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:00:50 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:20:11 +1300, Corky <Corky@paradise.net.nz>
    wrote:


    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

    Perhaps people are seeing that "Brighter Future" that we were
    promised:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11720811

    Nah, the poll's "bogus". And even if it isn't it's no use - Angry little
    Andy ain't interested in the "middle ground".

    Either it is bogus or it is not - which do you believe, JohnO?

    Angry little Andy says any poll that is outside of expectation is "bogus" so this one must be "bogus"

    Of course Andrew Little wants more than just the "middle ground"-

    No, he said he's not interested in the "middle ground". He thinks that's "hollow" and is busy building a "coalition of constituencies". Best of luck to him.

    Labour works for all New Zealanders,

    Funny how most New Zealanders don't vote for them, then.

    The truth of course, is that Labour works for the union dominated factions that
    installed their leader.

    unlike the "3%" Nats and the

    No, I think you'll find they are the "47% Nats" if you look at the polls.

    "1%" ACT parties. But tehre is no need fr you to be worried, JOhnO -

    Looking at your typing makes me wonder - are you drunk again?

    after all it would be unthinkable for Winston to not support his bosom
    buddy JohnKey, wouldn't it?

    Winston's support policy is well known - wait until the election is done and go
    with the larger party.

    Doesn't look promising for Labour, does it?

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  • From Fred@3:770/3 to JohnO on Monday, October 03, 2016 10:02:00
    On 3/10/2016 8:12 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 19:18:13 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:00:50 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:20:11 +1300, Corky <Corky@paradise.net.nz>
    wrote:


    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

    Perhaps people are seeing that "Brighter Future" that we were
    promised:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11720811

    Nah, the poll's "bogus". And even if it isn't it's no use - Angry little Andy ain't interested in the "middle ground".

    Either it is bogus or it is not - which do you believe, JohnO?

    Angry little Andy says any poll that is outside of expectation is "bogus" so
    this one must be "bogus"

    Of course Andrew Little wants more than just the "middle ground"-

    No, he said he's not interested in the "middle ground". He thinks that's
    "hollow" and is busy building a "coalition of constituencies". Best of luck to him.

    Labour works for all New Zealanders,

    Funny how most New Zealanders don't vote for them, then.

    The truth of course, is that Labour works for the union dominated factions
    that installed their leader.

    unlike the "3%" Nats and the

    No, I think you'll find they are the "47% Nats" if you look at the polls.

    "1%" ACT parties. But tehre is no need fr you to be worried, JOhnO -

    Looking at your typing makes me wonder - are you drunk again?

    after all it would be unthinkable for Winston to not support his bosom
    buddy JohnKey, wouldn't it?

    Winston's support policy is well known - wait until the election is done and
    go with the larger party.

    Doesn't look promising for Labour, does it?


    Except in practise Winston will go with the party who waves the most
    baubles under his snout. And even though we all know he's not really
    tempted by baubles, cos he said so, imagine what would happen if
    offered Prime Minister role. Guess which party needs a leader!

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Fred on Monday, October 03, 2016 13:38:14
    On 3/10/2016 10:02 a.m., Fred wrote:
    On 3/10/2016 8:12 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 19:18:13 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:00:50 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:20:11 +1300, Corky <Corky@paradise.net.nz>
    wrote:


    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

    Perhaps people are seeing that "Brighter Future" that we were
    promised:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11720811


    Nah, the poll's "bogus". And even if it isn't it's no use - Angry
    little Andy ain't interested in the "middle ground".

    Either it is bogus or it is not - which do you believe, JohnO?

    Angry little Andy says any poll that is outside of expectation is
    "bogus" so this one must be "bogus"

    Of course Andrew Little wants more than just the "middle ground"-

    No, he said he's not interested in the "middle ground". He thinks
    that's "hollow" and is busy building a "coalition of constituencies".
    Best of luck to him.

    Labour works for all New Zealanders,

    Funny how most New Zealanders don't vote for them, then.

    The truth of course, is that Labour works for the union dominated
    factions that installed their leader.

    unlike the "3%" Nats and the

    No, I think you'll find they are the "47% Nats" if you look at the polls.

    "1%" ACT parties. But tehre is no need fr you to be worried, JOhnO -

    Looking at your typing makes me wonder - are you drunk again?

    after all it would be unthinkable for Winston to not support his bosom
    buddy JohnKey, wouldn't it?

    Winston's support policy is well known - wait until the election is
    done and go with the larger party.

    Doesn't look promising for Labour, does it?


    Except in practise Winston will go with the party who waves the most
    baubles under his snout. And even though we all know he's not really
    tempted by baubles, cos he said so, imagine what would happen if
    offered Prime Minister role. Guess which party needs a leader!
    You go wash your fingers Fred. That's an even scarier idea than little
    Andy the election planner some how getting the job......

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Monday, October 03, 2016 13:35:34
    On 2/10/2016 7:18 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:00:50 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:20:11 +1300, Corky <Corky@paradise.net.nz>
    wrote:


    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

    Perhaps people are seeing that "Brighter Future" that we were
    promised:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11720811

    Nah, the poll's "bogus". And even if it isn't it's no use - Angry little Andy ain't interested in the "middle ground".

    Either it is bogus or it is not - which do you believe, JohnO?
    Of course Andrew Little wants more than just the "middle ground"-
    Labour works for all New Zealanders, unlike the "3%" Nats and the
    "1%" ACT parties. But tehre is no need fr you to be worried, JOhnO -
    after all it would be unthinkable for Winston to not support his bosom
    buddy JohnKey, wouldn't it?

    The poll was done by a reputable company Rich. Should be a lot more
    accurate than the shonky pollsters Little 'I know better about elections
    than Helen' Andy uses.
    As to working for all New Zealand. Good to see your reprogramming hasn't improved your intelligence or comprehension skills Rich. Or did they
    just update your humour module?
    Winston and John Key bosom buddies? Only in what passes for minds on the loopier side of the left where you and little Andy live.

    Pooh

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Monday, October 03, 2016 15:35:32
    On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 19:18:13 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:00:50 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:20:11 +1300, Corky <Corky@paradise.net.nz>
    wrote:


    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

    Perhaps people are seeing that "Brighter Future" that we were
    promised:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11720811

    Nah, the poll's "bogus". And even if it isn't it's no use - Angry little Andy ain't interested in the "middle ground".

    Either it is bogus or it is not - which do you believe, JohnO?

    Angry little Andy says any poll that is outside of expectation is "bogus" so this one must be "bogus"

    Of course Andrew Little wants more than just the "middle ground"-

    No, he said he's not interested in the "middle ground". He thinks that's "hollow" and is busy building a "coalition of constituencies". Best of luck to him.

    Labour works for all New Zealanders,

    Funny how most New Zealanders don't vote for them, then.

    The truth of course, is that Labour works for the union dominated factions that installed their leader.

    unlike the "3%" Nats and the

    No, I think you'll find they are the "47% Nats" if you look at the polls.

    Which one was that, JohnO? The one above gives 41.5%


    "1%" ACT parties. But there is no need for you to be worried, JohnO -

    Looking at your typing makes me wonder - are you drunk again?
    Fixed above - happy now?

    after all it would be unthinkable for Winston to not support his bosom
    buddy JohnKey, wouldn't it?

    Winston's support policy is well known - wait until the election is done and go with the larger party.

    Doesn't look promising for Labour, does it?

    The reduction from your 47% to the current 41.5% doesn't look good for
    the Nats either - a long way to go before the election . . .

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Sunday, October 02, 2016 20:23:49
    On Monday, 3 October 2016 15:35:34 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 19:18:13 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:00:50 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:20:11 +1300, Corky <Corky@paradise.net.nz>
    wrote:


    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

    Perhaps people are seeing that "Brighter Future" that we were
    promised:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11720811

    Nah, the poll's "bogus". And even if it isn't it's no use - Angry little
    Andy ain't interested in the "middle ground".

    Either it is bogus or it is not - which do you believe, JohnO?

    Angry little Andy says any poll that is outside of expectation is "bogus" so
    this one must be "bogus"

    Of course Andrew Little wants more than just the "middle ground"-

    No, he said he's not interested in the "middle ground". He thinks that's
    "hollow" and is busy building a "coalition of constituencies". Best of luck to him.

    Labour works for all New Zealanders,

    Funny how most New Zealanders don't vote for them, then.

    The truth of course, is that Labour works for the union dominated factions
    that installed their leader.

    unlike the "3%" Nats and the

    No, I think you'll find they are the "47% Nats" if you look at the polls.

    Which one was that, JohnO? The one above gives 41.5%

    The average. So you don't get mislead by cherry-picking a "bogus" one.



    "1%" ACT parties. But there is no need for you to be worried, JohnO -

    Looking at your typing makes me wonder - are you drunk again?
    Fixed above - happy now?

    after all it would be unthinkable for Winston to not support his bosom
    buddy JohnKey, wouldn't it?

    Winston's support policy is well known - wait until the election is done and
    go with the larger party.

    Doesn't look promising for Labour, does it?

    The reduction from your 47% to the current 41.5% doesn't look good for
    the Nats either - a long way to go before the election . . .

    Even if you cherry pick the single best poll Labour have had in the last year (that one) Labour still cannot get in without Winston, who (a) has a history of
    refusing to work with the Greens (and Maori Party) and (b) has a history or forming a coalition
    with the largest party.

    IOW Labour are still dog tucker.

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to JohnO on Wednesday, October 05, 2016 14:39:05
    On 3/10/2016 4:23 p.m., JohnO wrote:
    On Monday, 3 October 2016 15:35:34 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 12:12:40 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 19:18:13 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:26:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, 2 October 2016 11:00:50 UTC+13, Rich80105 wrote:
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:20:11 +1300, Corky <Corky@paradise.net.nz>
    wrote:


    Latest Roy Morgan;

    National 41.5%
    Labour 33.5%
    Green 12%
    NZ First 8.5%
    Maori 2%
    ACT 1.0% (nc)
    United Future 0.0%
    Mana/Internet 0.0%
    Conservative 0.5%
    Other 1%

    Perhaps people are seeing that "Brighter Future" that we were
    promised:
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=11720811

    Nah, the poll's "bogus". And even if it isn't it's no use - Angry little Andy ain't interested in the "middle ground".

    Either it is bogus or it is not - which do you believe, JohnO?

    Angry little Andy says any poll that is outside of expectation is "bogus" so this one must be "bogus"

    Of course Andrew Little wants more than just the "middle ground"-

    No, he said he's not interested in the "middle ground". He thinks that's "hollow" and is busy building a "coalition of constituencies". Best of luck to him.

    Labour works for all New Zealanders,

    Funny how most New Zealanders don't vote for them, then.

    The truth of course, is that Labour works for the union dominated factions that installed their leader.

    unlike the "3%" Nats and the

    No, I think you'll find they are the "47% Nats" if you look at the polls. >>
    Which one was that, JohnO? The one above gives 41.5%

    The average. So you don't get mislead by cherry-picking a "bogus" one.



    "1%" ACT parties. But there is no need for you to be worried, JohnO -

    Looking at your typing makes me wonder - are you drunk again?
    Fixed above - happy now?

    after all it would be unthinkable for Winston to not support his bosom >>>> buddy JohnKey, wouldn't it?

    Winston's support policy is well known - wait until the election is done and go with the larger party.

    Doesn't look promising for Labour, does it?

    The reduction from your 47% to the current 41.5% doesn't look good for
    the Nats either - a long way to go before the election . . .

    Even if you cherry pick the single best poll Labour have had in the last year
    (that one) Labour still cannot get in without Winston, who (a) has a history of
    refusing to work with the Greens (and Maori Party) and (b) has a history or forming a
    coalition with the largest party.

    IOW Labour are still dog tucker.


    Rich happily ignores the fact that the msm still don't give Andy 'Clark
    knows nothing about electioneering' Little a chance of winning the next election. Hell several are suggesting Little is single handedly
    destroying whatever slight chance Labour has at present of doing it!

    Pooh

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