With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26% and National steady on 48%,Andy has released Labour's internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other poll:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpgetc.
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26% and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other poll:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpg
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method etc.
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's
wrote:
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26%
Farrar also saidhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpg
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method etc.
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
Even Farrar admits that UMR do a good job - no it was independent.
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:28:34 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Whereas it is actually consistent within the margins for error given
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26%
internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other poll: >>>
Farrar also saidhttp://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpg
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method etc.
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
Even Farrar admits that UMR do a good job - no it was independent.
"But I will comment on this specific poll as it is vastly different to every other poll published."
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:08:20 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>poll:
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:28:34 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26%
internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other
etc.
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpg
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method
other poll published."Farrar also said
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
Even Farrar admits that UMR do a good job - no it was independent.
"But I will comment on this specific poll as it is vastly different to every
Whereas it is actually consistent within the margins for error given
by the respective polling companies. Do you expect anyting other than
spin from Farrar?
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26% and National steady on 48%,Andy has released Labour's internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other poll:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpgetc.
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:08:20 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>poll:
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:28:34 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>wrote:and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26%
internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other
etc.
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpg
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method
other poll published."Farrar also said
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
Even Farrar admits that UMR do a good job - no it was independent.
"But I will comment on this specific poll as it is vastly different to every
Whereas it is actually consistent within the margins for error given
by the respective polling companies. Do you expect anyting other than
spin from Farrar?
On 9/13/2016 4:20 PM, JohnO wrote:48%, Andy has released Labour's internal UMR poll with results wildly different
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26% and National steady on
etc.http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpg
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
Well if he didn't pretend that he was popular the knives would be headed
for his back...
No-one in liebor management can be that thick as to believe the angry
little man
On Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:20:20 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:etc.
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:08:20 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:28:34 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's
wrote:
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26%
internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other poll:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpg
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method
Angry Andy's the one who needs spin, and Dickbot's like an out of balance washing machine.Whereas it is actually consistent within the margins for error givenFarrar also said
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
Even Farrar admits that UMR do a good job - no it was independent.
"But I will comment on this specific poll as it is vastly different to every other poll published."
by the respective polling companies. Do you expect anyting other than
spin from Farrar?
Hilarious!
Farrar doesn't need to spin - Labour's polling has been consistently shite since 2008.
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26% and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other poll:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 13:21:30 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:washing machine.
On Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:20:20 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:Angry Andy's the one who needs spin, and Dickbot's like an out of balance
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:08:20 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:28:34 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:Whereas it is actually consistent within the margins for error given
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26%
internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other poll:
Farrar also said
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpg
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method etc.
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
Even Farrar admits that UMR do a good job - no it was independent.
"But I will comment on this specific poll as it is vastly different to every other poll published."
by the respective polling companies. Do you expect anyting other than
spin from Farrar?
Hilarious!
Farrar doesn't need to spin - Labour's polling has been consistently shite since 2008.
"Dickbot's like an out of balance washing machine."
LOL
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 13:21:30 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 September 2016 21:20:20 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:08:20 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:28:34 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com>
poll:
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's
wrote:
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26%
internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other
method etc.
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpg
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size,
every other poll published."Farrar also said
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
Even Farrar admits that UMR do a good job - no it was independent.
"But I will comment on this specific poll as it is vastly different to
since 2008.Whereas it is actually consistent within the margins for error given
by the respective polling companies. Do you expect anyting other than
spin from Farrar?
Hilarious!
Farrar doesn't need to spin - Labour's polling has been consistently shite
Angry Andy's the one who needs spin, and Dickbot's like an out of balancewashing machine.
"Dickbot's like an out of balance washing machine."
LOL
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>48%, Andy has released Labour's internal UMR poll with results wildly different
wrote:
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26% and National steady on
So, why not just for one grudging moment step outside your dully
echoing chamber of interminable boredom-relief twittering and into the
light of day to receive some much needed enlightenment:
"All over the west, the left is in crisis.
It cannot find answers to
three urgent problems: the disruptive force of globalisation, the rise
of populist nationalism, and the decline of traditional work."
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/06/does-the-left-have-a-future
For another,collateral scenario:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11702299
Now strip out English's "empty-calories" GDP numbers from the real and
actual wealth-producing stats and see what's really left: that's
right - nothing but pernicious low labour-productivity (more than 40
unbroken years of it) in an increasingly debt-driven consumption
economy based on foreign company ownership, foreign credit and
imported goods. Even New Zealand's grossly over-loaned private
dwellings are, effectively, owned by......foreign banks.
(Total National debt has now zoomed past the half-a-billion dollar
mark.)
And tourism is now this country's principal earner,
and, along with
"poverty" maladies like rheumatic fever, it doesn't get more third
world than that.
As some UK visitors observed a couple of years ago, "The imported
coffee made on imported machinery by a doubtless imported barista is
great and the scenery's grand, but apart from the latter, is there
anything at all in this country - even the sheep - that New
Zealanders can truthfully call entirely their own?"
IOW, the entire economic shebang is a poisoned chalice for any who, in
their crazed and all-consuming lust for power, would be so precipitate
as to try and seize the incumbency from such a bunch of clueless, directionless, headless chickens.
As Tom Frewen put it all those years ago, none of them would have even
the faintest hope of making it onto the drains board of some French provincial town.
Bullseye, Tom!
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 21:08:20 +1200, Liberty <liberty48@live.com>other poll published."
wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:28:34 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote: >>
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's
wrote:
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26%
internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other poll:
Farrar also said
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpg
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method etc.
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
Even Farrar admits that UMR do a good job - no it was independent.
"But I will comment on this specific poll as it is vastly different to every
Whereas it is actually consistent within the margins for error given
by the respective polling companies. Do you expect anyting other than
spin from Farrar?
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>to basically every other poll:
wrote:
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26% and National steady on 48%, Andy has released Labour's internal UMR poll with results wildly different
So, why not just for one grudging moment step outside your dully
echoing chamber of interminable boredom-relief twittering and into the
light of day to receive some much needed enlightenment:
"All over the west, the left is in crisis. It cannot find answers to
three urgent problems: the disruptive force of globalisation, the rise
of populist nationalism, and the decline of traditional work."
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/06/does-the-left-have-a-future
For another,collateral scenario:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11702299
Now strip out English's "empty-calories" GDP numbers from the real and
actual wealth-producing stats and see what's really left: that's
right - nothing but pernicious low labour-productivity (more than 40
unbroken years of it) in an increasingly debt-driven consumption
economy based on foreign company ownership, foreign credit and
imported goods. Even New Zealand's grossly over-loaned private
dwellings are, effectively, owned by......foreign banks.
(Total National debt has now zoomed past the half-a-billion dollar
mark.)
And tourism is now this country's principal earner, and, along with
"poverty" maladies like rheumatic fever, it doesn't get more third
world than that.
As some UK visitors observed a couple of years ago, "The imported
coffee made on imported machinery by a doubtless imported barista is
great and the scenery's grand, but apart from the latter, is there
anything at all in this country - even the sheep - that New
Zealanders can truthfully call entirely their own?"
IOW, the entire economic shebang is a poisoned chalice for any who, in
their crazed and all-consuming lust for power, would be so precipitate
as to try and seize the incumbency from such a bunch of clueless, directionless, headless chickens.
As Tom Frewen put it all those years ago, none of them would have even
the faintest hope of making it onto the drains board of some French provincial town.
Bullseye, Tom!
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26% and National steady on 48%,Andy has released Labour's internal UMR poll with results wildly different to basically every other poll:
http://www.kiwiblog.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/umr.jpgetc.
But of course we see nothing of the UMR poll questions, poll size, method
In other words, Angry Andy has released a big fat lie.
My guess is that the UMR poll was conducted at a union meeting.
On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:20:51 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>48%, Andy has released Labour's internal UMR poll with results wildly different
wrote:
With Labour tanking to an entirely consistent 26% and National steady on
So, why not just for one grudging moment step outside your dully
echoing chamber of interminable boredom-relief twittering and into the
light of day to receive some much needed enlightenment:
"All over the west, the left is in crisis. It cannot find answers to
three urgent problems: the disruptive force of globalisation, the rise
of populist nationalism, and the decline of traditional work."
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/sep/06/does-the-left-have-a-future
For another,collateral scenario:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11702299
Now strip out English's "empty-calories" GDP numbers from the real and
actual wealth-producing stats and see what's really left: that's
right - nothing but pernicious low labour-productivity (more than 40
unbroken years of it) in an increasingly debt-driven consumption
economy based on foreign company ownership, foreign credit and
imported goods. Even New Zealand's grossly over-loaned private
dwellings are, effectively, owned by......foreign banks.
(Total National debt has now zoomed past the half-a-billion dollar
mark.)
And tourism is now this country's principal earner, and, along with
"poverty" maladies like rheumatic fever, it doesn't get more third
world than that.
As some UK visitors observed a couple of years ago, "The imported
coffee made on imported machinery by a doubtless imported barista is
great and the scenery's grand, but apart from the latter, is there
anything at all in this country - even the sheep - that New
Zealanders can truthfully call entirely their own?"
IOW, the entire economic shebang is a poisoned chalice for any who, in
their crazed and all-consuming lust for power, would be so precipitate
as to try and seize the incumbency from such a bunch of clueless, directionless, headless chickens.
As Tom Frewen put it all those years ago, none of them would have even
the faintest hope of making it onto the drains board of some French provincial town.
Bullseye, Tom!
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