• The evidence of time-wasting continues to trickle out . . .

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, September 10, 2016 11:37:46
    Pundit continues to look dispassionately and in a non-partisan way at
    what our elected representatives are doing on our behalf - see: http://pundit.co.nz/content/worser-and-worser

    Worser and worser
    by Andrew Geddis
    So, it turns out that we don't just have Nuk Korako to thank for
    wasting Parliament's time on debating how best to advertise lost
    property auctions that never get held. National Party MP Jono Naylor
    and Transport Minister Simon Bridges played their part, too.

    In my various comments on the frankly abysmal Airport Authorities
    (Publicising Lost Property Sales) Amendment Bill, I've been pouring
    scorn on Tutehounuku (Nuk) Korako for its palpable inadequacies and
    obvious cynicism. And fair enough, too - it is in the members' ballot
    under his name, so he has to own it.

    But thanks to another set of documents on how this Bill came into
    being, released today under the OIA, we can see that there's a couple
    of other folk who deserve to wear some of that opprobrium. Because
    these documents appear to show that the idea for this Bill wasn't Mr
    Korako's at all - instead, they began with a proposal for a members
    bill from National's Palmerston North based list MP Jono Naylor.

    Not only is this somewhat surprising, given Mr Korako's claim to be so "passionate" about the issue, but Mr Naylor appears not to have
    understood just what he was suggesting happen. Here's how he begins
    his member's bill proposal to the National Party caucus:

    The Airport Authorities Act sets out the process a local or airport
    authority must go through before selling lost property.

    The purpose of these sections of law are sound; provide the public
    with information about lost prop0erty (sic!), to allow the owner a
    chance to recover their property before the authority begins the
    process of sale.

    As I've repeatedly noted, this simply isn't correct. However, you
    might think I'm an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about - so
    here's Graeme Edgeler instead:

    But wouldn’t an advertisement that some property is going to be
    auctioned help someone looking for something know that it is missing,
    and where they could find it?

    It might, but the advertising is about the holding of the auction,
    even when all of this applies, there is no requirement to actually
    list what found property is to be sold off. The requirements are about
    the advertising of the auction itself.

    Well, if it’s not about connecting people with their property, what is
    it about?

    It’s an anti-corruption measure, designed to protect the public
    interest. Airport Authorities are local authorites, and if they are
    going to be selling stuff, we want them be able to get as much money
    for it as possible. If the auctions aren’t advertised, then someone
    involved in the process could let a mate know when the auction was,
    and they could buy up what’s for sale cheaply when no-one else turned
    up. They’d get a bargain, and the airport authority would get ripped
    off.

    The section is largely based on the old Police Act, dealing with the
    auctioning of lost property handed in to police. Police auctions have
    always had to be publicised as well, because if they weren’t taxpayers
    would miss out. The money from Airport Authority auctions doesn’t go
    directly to the government in the same way as money from police
    auctions does, but the principle is similar.

    So right from the outset, it appears that the Bill was sold on false
    pretences. Then, according to the released documents, something quite
    odd happened. For you may remember from my post yesterday that the
    Government has been holding a review as to whether the Airport
    Authorities Act needs amending. Now, no-one who contributed to that
    review called for change to this particular aspect of the law. But
    when the official in charge of it heard that Mr Naylor was now
    proposing an alteration to the Act, they suggested something quite
    sensible:

    It was not proposed [in the review], but this is something that could
    be included in the Act amendments if it was considered necessary. We
    agree that there should be a degree of flexibility in these type of arrangements.

    Then, a week later, another email from that official:

    I've spoken to [my boss at the Ministry of Transport] about this and
    he has agreed that we should include it in the review. He'll let the
    Minister know on Monday at the Official's meeting.

    So that's great! The Ministry officials agree that they will include
    the change in the Government's larger overhaul of the legislation
    governing airport authorities!! There's no need to tie Parliament up considering, debating and voting on this one incredibly minor,
    technical change to that enactment (which won't even do what the
    person proposing it says it will)!!!

    Except ... then the released email trail tells us that this happened:

    At the official's meeting today the Minister [Simon Bridges] decided
    against proactively including Mr Naylor's proposals in the [Amendment]
    Bill. So we can leave it to run its course in the Private Members
    lottery.

    WTF? Why on earth would the Minister decide this? Unless, of course,
    the whole point of Mr Naylor's Bill from the beginning wasn't to bring
    about a desirable change in the law, but rather act as spam in the
    member's bill lottery to reduce the chance of one of the opposition
    MP's proposals being drawn instead.

    Meaning that when (now) Mr Korako's Bill comes before the House and
    has some hours of your elected representatives' time (along with the extensively funded institutional resources devoted to supporting them)
    wasted on it, just remember that it was Simon Bridges who decided that
    this should happen, simply to block some other more politically
    troublesome member's bill from getting debated.

    One last little observation here. An email sent by the Ministry of
    Transport official to his colleagues the day after the Minister made
    his decision has been redacted in order to "maintain the effective
    conduct of affairs through free and frank expression of opinions". But
    I think I can recreate an approximate tenor of the remarks in it:

    What the hell is going on here? This is a completely stupid thing to
    do! If we're going to the trouble of having an entire review of the
    legislation with an Amendment Act to follow, why on earth wouldn't we
    include this incredibly trivial, easily made change in it? Honest to
    God - sometimes I despair of the morons who run this place and the
    petty political games that they are always playing. If this ever comes
    out in public, they are going to look like a bunch of right royal
    nitwits who deserve all the ridicule that will follow.

    Or something like that, anyway.

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    Thje article on the website above includes links which support the
    content and provide background.

    It shows that when the National party sets out to stuff the ballot for
    member bills to push out ideas from other parties that embarrass them,
    it would be helpful if they actually had some reasonable ideas
    themselves - and that it takes three Nat MPs to come up with such a
    useless idea that it gets "rightly" pilloried . . .

    When all that is left is wasting hte time of parliament, its time
    National was chucked out . . .

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Saturday, September 10, 2016 20:38:38
    On 10/09/2016 11:37 a.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    Pundit continues to look dispassionately and in a non-partisan way at
    what our elected representatives are doing on our behalf - see:
    <snipped>

    Pundit dispassionate? You are as stupid as others claim Rich. Pundit is
    just another loopy left spin doctor for the ever angrier little Andy.

    Pooh

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