• UNICEF concerned about New Zealand

    From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, August 18, 2016 21:38:54
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty

    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to JohnO on Friday, August 19, 2016 08:50:17
    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty

    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New
    Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The Guardian,
    that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to All on Thursday, August 18, 2016 13:37:56
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty

    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

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  • From Newsman@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Thursday, August 18, 2016 22:06:16
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:50:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty

    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New
    Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens, >>> and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Yup. Really!!!!!!! John Key's plainly taken the disparagement to
    heart. And the Guardian has done the decent thing and reported the
    dissembling little prick's panic volte-face:

    http://tinyurl.com/gon3dq2

    But wait! There's more!

    http://tinyurl.com/jglu5b5

    And then, piling Pelion on Ossa:

    http://tinyurl.com/hc4r8u9

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Friday, August 19, 2016 09:34:48
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:50:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty

    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New
    Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ętre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Intersting that NZ was not able to be included in their first table
    due to lack of data. Whether it is related or not I do notknow, but it
    is certainly consistent with the government policy of not collecting
    (or stopping collecting) data for anything that may be embarassing.
    The report also says:
    "Slipping down the agenda In the wake of statistics following the
    post-2008 economic crises, the child poverty rate has rarely surfaced.
    “In a downturn,” says Sharon Goldfeld, National Director of the
    Australian Early Development Index, “the first thing that happens is
    that children drop off the policy agenda.” Yet it is arguable that the
    child poverty rate is one of the most important of all indicators of a society’s health and well-being. For the here and now, it is a measure
    of what is happening to some of society’s most vulnerable members. For
    the years to come, it is a pointer to the well-being and cohesion of
    society as a whole.

    Previous reports in this series have presented the evidence for the
    close association between child poverty and a long list of individual
    and social risks – from impaired cognitive development to increased
    behavioural difficulties, from poorer physical health to
    underachievement in school, from lowered skills and aspirations to
    higher risks of welfare dependency, from the greater likelihood of
    teenage pregnancy to the increased probability of drug and alcohol
    abuse. That there are many exceptions – many children who grow up in economically poor families who do not fall into any of these
    categories – does not alter the fact that poverty in childhood is
    closely and consistently associated with measurable disadvantage both
    for individuals and for the societies in which they live.

    A commitment to protecting children from poverty is therefore more
    than a slogan or a routine inclusion in a political manifesto; it is
    the hallmark of a civilized society"

    When the focus of the NZ government is on capital profits for
    supporters and corporate profits - including profits for foreign
    banks, and multinationals who pay little NZ tax, it is not surprising
    that New Zealand's fall on the measure of child poverty is of
    sufficient concern to merit publicity overseas.

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to All on Friday, August 19, 2016 11:07:55
    On 8/19/2016 10:58 AM, george152 wrote:
    On 8/19/2016 10:06 AM, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:50:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty


    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New >>>>> Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable
    citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island
    nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The
    Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ
    doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such
    as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Yup. Really!!!!!!! John Key's plainly taken the disparagement to
    heart. And the Guardian has done the decent thing and reported the
    dissembling little prick's panic volte-face:

    Whoa.

    Nothing to do with Key..
    But then why let something like a fact get between you and a rant.
    The Guardian is a rag somewhere between the Sun and the Peoples Voice


    Oh and go and read the actual article and see for yourself the E & O's
    and blatant politicking in it

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to Newsman on Friday, August 19, 2016 10:58:53
    On 8/19/2016 10:06 AM, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:50:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty

    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New
    Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens, >>>> and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of >>>> 4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Yup. Really!!!!!!! John Key's plainly taken the disparagement to
    heart. And the Guardian has done the decent thing and reported the dissembling little prick's panic volte-face:

    Whoa.

    Nothing to do with Key..
    But then why let something like a fact get between you and a rant.
    The Guardian is a rag somewhere between the Sun and the Peoples Voice

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Newsman on Thursday, August 18, 2016 15:36:54
    On Friday, 19 August 2016 10:06:20 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:50:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty

    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New
    Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens, >>> and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of >>> 4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The Guardian,
    that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Yup. Really!!!!!!! John Key's plainly taken the disparagement to
    heart. And the Guardian has done the decent thing and reported the dissembling little prick's panic volte-face:

    http://tinyurl.com/gon3dq2

    But wait! There's more!

    http://tinyurl.com/jglu5b5

    And then, piling Pelion on Ossa:

    http://tinyurl.com/hc4r8u9

    Get a life, Keith.

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  • From Liberty@3:770/3 to rich80105@hotmail.com on Friday, August 19, 2016 11:54:46
    On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 21:38:54 +1200, Rich80105<rich80105@hotmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty

    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New >Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    At one of my bachs i don't have a internet connection.
    so when I stay there according to the UN I live in poverty.

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  • From Newsman@3:770/3 to gblack@hnpl.net on Friday, August 19, 2016 01:12:18
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:07:55 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 10:58 AM, george152 wrote:
    On 8/19/2016 10:06 AM, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:50:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty


    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New >>>>>> Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable
    citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island
    nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The
    Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ
    doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such >>>>> as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Yup. Really!!!!!!! John Key's plainly taken the disparagement to
    heart. And the Guardian has done the decent thing and reported the
    dissembling little prick's panic volte-face:

    Whoa.

    Nothing to do with Key..
    But then why let something like a fact get between you and a rant.
    The Guardian is a rag somewhere between the Sun and the Peoples Voice

    Yet proven infinitely more credible, literate and informed than you.

    Oh and go and read the actual article and see for yourself the E & O's
    and blatant politicking in it.

    Here's John Key's drifting, directionless "Brighter Future"
    government's offical admission of yet another of their intractable
    problems:

    "We can’t go on like this, said Anne Tolley, the social development
    minister, in a statement on Thursday.

    "Staff don’t need me to tell them that there have been numerous
    well-meaning restructures and quick-fixes over the years.

    "It hasn’t made any difference. The system is not working for
    children. And they are the only thing that matter."

    So, with Key's mob nakedly bereft of a single credible idea or policy,
    and with Labour proving themselves unable to produce any
    socio-economic policies that National can thieve from them, Godzone
    and its mediocre government-of-drift have hit the wall.

    Suck it up George; this is New Zealand "On the cusp of something
    special."

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Newsman on Thursday, August 18, 2016 19:36:34
    On Friday, 19 August 2016 13:12:23 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:07:55 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 10:58 AM, george152 wrote:
    On 8/19/2016 10:06 AM, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:50:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>
    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty


    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New >>>>>> Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable
    citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island
    nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre. >>>>>
    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The
    Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ
    doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such >>>>> as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Yup. Really!!!!!!! John Key's plainly taken the disparagement to
    heart. And the Guardian has done the decent thing and reported the
    dissembling little prick's panic volte-face:

    Whoa.

    Nothing to do with Key..
    But then why let something like a fact get between you and a rant.
    The Guardian is a rag somewhere between the Sun and the Peoples Voice

    Yet proven infinitely more credible, literate and informed than you.

    Oh and go and read the actual article and see for yourself the E & O's
    and blatant politicking in it.

    Here's John Key's drifting, directionless "Brighter Future"
    government's offical admission of yet another of their intractable
    problems:

    "We can’t go on like this, said Anne Tolley, the social development minister, in a statement on Thursday.

    "Staff don’t need me to tell them that there have been numerous well-meaning restructures and quick-fixes over the years.

    "It hasn’t made any difference. The system is not working for
    children. And they are the only thing that matter."

    So, with Key's mob nakedly bereft of a single credible idea or policy,
    and with Labour proving themselves unable to produce any
    socio-economic policies that National can thieve from them, Godzone
    and its mediocre government-of-drift have hit the wall.

    Suck it up George; this is New Zealand "On the cusp of something
    special."

    Never mind Keith, George. He's just your typical whinging pom - doesn't like the place but doesn't leave either. And he has a rather obsessive fixation with
    John Key. Just your typical sad, lonely, disenfranchised and utterly irrelevant
    pommy whinger.

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  • From Rich80105@3:770/3 to All on Friday, August 19, 2016 15:24:26
    On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 19:36:34 -0700 (PDT), JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, 19 August 2016 13:12:23 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:07:55 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 10:58 AM, george152 wrote:
    On 8/19/2016 10:06 AM, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:50:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >> >>>
    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty


    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New >> >>>>>> Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable
    citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island
    nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ętre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The
    Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ
    doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such >> >>>>> as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Yup. Really!!!!!!! John Key's plainly taken the disparagement to
    heart. And the Guardian has done the decent thing and reported the
    dissembling little prick's panic volte-face:

    Whoa.

    Nothing to do with Key..
    But then why let something like a fact get between you and a rant.
    The Guardian is a rag somewhere between the Sun and the Peoples Voice

    Yet proven infinitely more credible, literate and informed than you.

    Oh and go and read the actual article and see for yourself the E & O's
    and blatant politicking in it.

    Here's John Key's drifting, directionless "Brighter Future"
    government's offical admission of yet another of their intractable
    problems:

    "We can’t go on like this, said Anne Tolley, the social development
    minister, in a statement on Thursday.

    "Staff don’t need me to tell them that there have been numerous
    well-meaning restructures and quick-fixes over the years.

    "It hasn’t made any difference. The system is not working for
    children. And they are the only thing that matter."

    So, with Key's mob nakedly bereft of a single credible idea or policy,
    and with Labour proving themselves unable to produce any
    socio-economic policies that National can thieve from them, Godzone
    and its mediocre government-of-drift have hit the wall.

    Suck it up George; this is New Zealand "On the cusp of something
    special."

    Never mind Keith, George. He's just your typical whinging pom - doesn't like the place but doesn't leave either. And he has a rather obsessive fixation with
    John Key. Just your typical sad, lonely, disenfranchised and utterly irrelevant
    pommy whinger.

    Others are starting to think that the different priorities of
    Labour/Green have some merit: http://www.newshub.co.nz/tvshows/paulhenry/poll-do-you-think-the-national-government-is-in-trouble-2016080905

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  • From george152@3:770/3 to JohnO on Friday, August 19, 2016 16:39:57
    On 8/19/2016 2:36 PM, JohnO wrote:


    Never mind Keith, George. He's just your typical whinging pom - doesn't like
    the place but doesn't leave either. And he has a rather obsessive fixation with
    John Key. Just your typical sad, lonely, disenfranchised and utterly irrelevant
    pommy whinger.


    Yup.
    I know.
    And somewhat thicker than a custard square

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  • From HitAnyKey@3:770/3 to All on Friday, August 19, 2016 22:47:13
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 16:39:57 +1200, george152 wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 2:36 PM, JohnO wrote:


    Never mind Keith, George. He's just your typical whinging pom - doesn't
    like the place but doesn't leave either. And he has a rather obsessive
    fixation with John Key. Just your typical sad, lonely, disenfranchised
    and utterly irrelevant pommy whinger.


    Yup.
    I know.
    And somewhat thicker than a custard square

    Us custard squares resent the implications of that ......

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  • From JohnO@3:770/3 to Newsman on Sunday, August 21, 2016 17:36:48
    On Friday, 19 August 2016 13:12:23 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:07:55 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 10:58 AM, george152 wrote:
    On 8/19/2016 10:06 AM, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:50:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >>>
    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty


    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New >>>>>> Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable
    citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island
    nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre. >>>>>
    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The
    Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ
    doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such >>>>> as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Yup. Really!!!!!!! John Key's plainly taken the disparagement to
    heart. And the Guardian has done the decent thing and reported the
    dissembling little prick's panic volte-face:

    Whoa.

    Nothing to do with Key..
    But then why let something like a fact get between you and a rant.
    The Guardian is a rag somewhere between the Sun and the Peoples Voice

    Yet proven infinitely more credible, literate and informed than you.

    Actually not. The Guardian piece was a biased, poorly researched and misleading
    piece of crap, which you unquestioningly and slavishly gobbled up. You really should wipe your chin.

    https://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-and-our-work/newsroom/media-releases/2016/support-continues-for-south-auckland-family.html

    Soas it turns out, this family have been offered the kind of social welfare support that just about any country in the world would consider generous.


    Oh and go and read the actual article and see for yourself the E & O's
    and blatant politicking in it.

    Here's John Key's drifting, directionless "Brighter Future"
    government's offical admission of yet another of their intractable
    problems:

    "We can’t go on like this, said Anne Tolley, the social development minister, in a statement on Thursday.

    "Staff don’t need me to tell them that there have been numerous well-meaning restructures and quick-fixes over the years.

    "It hasn’t made any difference. The system is not working for
    children. And they are the only thing that matter."

    So, with Key's mob nakedly bereft of a single credible idea or policy,
    and with Labour proving themselves unable to produce any
    socio-economic policies that National can thieve from them, Godzone
    and its mediocre government-of-drift have hit the wall.

    Suck it up George; this is New Zealand "On the cusp of something
    special."

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  • From Tony @3:770/3 to Newsman on Sunday, August 21, 2016 20:21:16
    JohnO <johno1234@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, 19 August 2016 13:12:23 UTC+12, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 11:07:55 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote:

    On 8/19/2016 10:58 AM, george152 wrote:
    On 8/19/2016 10:06 AM, Newsman wrote:
    On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 08:50:17 +1200, george152 <gblack@hnpl.net> wrote: >> >>>
    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty


    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New >> >>>>>> Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable
    citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island
    nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The
    Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ
    doing rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such >> >>>>> as United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Yup. Really!!!!!!! John Key's plainly taken the disparagement to
    heart. And the Guardian has done the decent thing and reported the
    dissembling little prick's panic volte-face:

    Whoa.

    Nothing to do with Key..
    But then why let something like a fact get between you and a rant.
    The Guardian is a rag somewhere between the Sun and the Peoples Voice

    Yet proven infinitely more credible, literate and informed than you.

    Actually not. The Guardian piece was a biased, poorly researched and >misleading piece of crap, which you unquestioningly and slavishly gobbled up. >You really should wipe your chin.

    https://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-and-our-work/newsroom/media-releases/2016/support-continues-for-south-auckland-family.html

    Soas it turns out, this family have been offered the kind of social welfare >support that just about any country in the world would consider generous. Incredible what absolute nonsense some papers will publish and what some people will believe.


    Oh and go and read the actual article and see for yourself the E & O's
    and blatant politicking in it.

    Here's John Key's drifting, directionless "Brighter Future"
    government's offical admission of yet another of their intractable
    problems:

    "We can’t go on like this, said Anne Tolley, the social development
    minister, in a statement on Thursday.

    "Staff don’t need me to tell them that there have been numerous
    well-meaning restructures and quick-fixes over the years.

    "It hasn’t made any difference. The system is not working for
    children. And they are the only thing that matter."

    So, with Key's mob nakedly bereft of a single credible idea or policy,
    and with Labour proving themselves unable to produce any
    socio-economic policies that National can thieve from them, Godzone
    and its mediocre government-of-drift have hit the wall.

    Suck it up George; this is New Zealand "On the cusp of something
    special."

    Tony

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to Pooh on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 13:00:02
    On 24/08/2016 12:50 p.m., Pooh wrote:
    On 18/08/2016 9:38 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty


    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New
    Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Still waiting to see a definition for child poverty Rich. If you dig you
    can find a bullshitish one from UNICEF. But none for New Zealand from
    anyone including your Labour/Green darlings. Looks like more breast
    beating from the loopy left. Maybe we should wait for the Labour/Green roadshow (or is that circus considering the clowns involved in further
    waste of taxpayer funds for a political exercise in futility and wasted
    time) to peter out and disappear into the sewer that is the lefts
    attempts to improve their sad preformance in the polls.

    Pooh

    Interesting running down the list UNICEF has here. https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf. Looks like
    something dreamed up by a left wing academic desperately ignoring the
    reality in 99% of the world. Or something Rich would happily accept
    while conveniently ignoring the fact his glorious Labour/Green angels
    ignored for nine long years....

    Pooh

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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:52:21
    On 19/08/2016 8:50 a.m., george152 wrote:
    On 8/19/2016 8:37 AM, JohnO wrote:
    On Thursday, 18 August 2016 21:39:00 UTC+12, Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty


    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New
    Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens, >>> and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Unicef will say that about any country - it's their raison d'ĂŞtre.

    Too bad for you, Dickbot, and the moaners at that lefty rag The
    Guardian, that Unicef's own world poverty league table shows NZ doing
    rather better than the likes of other 1st world countries such as
    United Kingdom, Canada, Japan and the USA.

    https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc10_eng.pdf

    Any-one know why the dick is so keen on disparaging New Zealand ?
    They want child poverty go to India or Pakistan...
    And to use any part of the UN as a source really ????????

    Or for that matter North Korea, Zimbabwe, China or any other marxist
    paradise.

    Pooh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Pooh@3:770/3 to All on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 12:50:37
    On 18/08/2016 9:38 p.m., Rich80105 wrote:
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/17/unicef-charities-urge-new-zealand-act-on-child-poverty

    ". . .The Unicef country executive director was quoted as saying New Zealanders’ empathy had hardened towards its most vulnerable citizens,
    and child poverty was becoming “normalised” in the island nation of
    4.5 million. . . ."

    Still waiting to see a definition for child poverty Rich. If you dig you
    can find a bullshitish one from UNICEF. But none for New Zealand from
    anyone including your Labour/Green darlings. Looks like more breast
    beating from the loopy left. Maybe we should wait for the Labour/Green
    roadshow (or is that circus considering the clowns involved in further
    waste of taxpayer funds for a political exercise in futility and wasted
    time) to peter out and disappear into the sewer that is the lefts
    attempts to improve their sad preformance in the polls.

    Pooh

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: Agency HUB, Dunedin - New Zealand | Fido<>Usenet Gateway (3:770/3)